
Gilfalas |

So, solarians sound like Jedi, with the Cycle being like the Force, except that solarians don't need a lightsaber -- they ARE the lightsaber...
Except in this case the force is the power of the life cycles of stars, from the fire and radiance or Stars to the cold and consumption of Black Holes.

khadgar567 |
bitrunner wrote:So, solarians sound like Jedi, with the Cycle being like the Force, except that solarians don't need a lightsaber -- they ARE the lightsaber...Except in this case the force is the power of the life cycles of stars, from the fire and radiance or Stars to the cold and consumption of Black Holes.
you know owen said we can choose where our powers come from so force is legitimate as kala from starcraft

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bitrunner wrote:So, solarians sound like Jedi, with the Cycle being like the Force, except that solarians don't need a lightsaber -- they ARE the lightsaber...Except in this case the force is the power of the life cycles of stars, from the fire and radiance or Stars to the cold and consumption of Black Holes.
Damn now I have the mental image of a Solarian Sailor Scout in my head... Sailorian Galaxia... I blame the personal sharing all those awesome drawings in my Facebook feed.

Gilfalas |

You know Owen said we can choose where our powers come from so force is legitimate as kala from starcraft?
Very true and I am not saying that is not the case but the Solarians design and powers specifically mention Stars and Black Holes and their abilities reflect that concept as well, such as the Starfire Burst in the Solarion wrtite up and in the first play example video when the Solarion chose to be Solar focused for the combat or the gravity manipulation power from later in that same video when the Solarion chose to got Black Hole focused.
It is also why Altronus has a stole showing a star at one end and a vortex or black hole icon at the other in the illustration.
Was merely trying to give him some more information, not say he could not call it the force.

Torbyne |
The Kasatha are an PC race and so I can answer your questions in order.
1. Nothing indicates this, no.
2. Their culture forbids them from displaying their mouths in public.
3. They are not telepathic, they are very acrobatic though.
Oh, poop. i knew they had Pathfinder stat write ups too... i get caught up thinking of them as Protoss sometimes and this image didnt really help distance that connection.
1) this write up mentions the blade manifesting on the lower right arm, i get since they have four arms it makes sense to call out the specific arm but it just made me curious. i dont know but it seems like even with four arms there would be one that was the most dominant or culturally expected. i doubt it will be anything major but its a detail that stuck out.
2. Is this stated anywhere or just inferred from the art?

Dαedαlus |

IonutRO wrote:The Kasatha are an PC race and so I can answer your questions in order.
1. Nothing indicates this, no.
2. Their culture forbids them from displaying their mouths in public.
3. They are not telepathic, they are very acrobatic though.
Oh, poop. i knew they had Pathfinder stat write ups too... i get caught up thinking of them as Protoss sometimes and this image didnt really help distance that connection.
1) this write up mentions the blade manifesting on the lower right arm, i get since they have four arms it makes sense to call out the specific arm but it just made me curious. i dont know but it seems like even with four arms there would be one that was the most dominant or culturally expected. i doubt it will be anything major but its a detail that stuck out.
2. Is this stated anywhere or just inferred from the art?
2: It's from Pathfinder (from multiple sources, including distant worlds and Iron Gods AP) and has been confirmed (somewhere other than art, but I'm not sure where) as continuing in Starfinder.

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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:Owen K. C. Stephens, turning typing errors into gold for fun and profit! :-)Voss wrote:Yep!Also, 'cosmonastery'
Really?
I'll take the blame for that one—I came up with "cosmonastery" while writing the Absalom Station article and begged the rest of the team to say it was cool. :D

Gilfalas |
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I'll take the blame for that one—I came up with "cosmonastery" while writing the Absalom Station article and begged the rest of the team to say it was cool. :D
Well it is cool. I am just used to seeing Owen's mispelling posts in other places so assumed this was one of the.
Nice job to you all in any case. Please release the core rules early? Please? *Insert picture of sad, begging puppy here*

Brew Bird |

We don't know why they have to cover their mouths, just that they do. For their lore, there's not much more than what the wiki says, but People of The Stars and Iron Gods have a bit more info.
Maybe their reproductive bits are on their faces, kinda like some cephalopods. That's always been my theory.

thecursor |

Gilfalas wrote:I'll take the blame for that one—I came up with "cosmonastery" while writing the Absalom Station article and begged the rest of the team to say it was cool. :DOwen K. C. Stephens wrote:Owen K. C. Stephens, turning typing errors into gold for fun and profit! :-)Voss wrote:Yep!Also, 'cosmonastery'
Really?
I assume next to the Cosmonastary is the starectory? Do they maintain a Red Sequence Dwarf Chapel?

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IonutRO wrote:We don't know why they have to cover their mouths, just that they do. For their lore, there's not much more than what the wiki says, but People of The Stars and Iron Gods have a bit more info.Maybe their reproductive bits are on their faces, kinda like some cephalopods. That's always been my theory.
It's likely a simple case of species wide halitosis.

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I think this is my favorite iconic so far. Not much to glean about the Solarion that we didn't know before, so I'll just have to wait for that preview. I like the cycle. Have a budding idea for a Solarion Priest that combines the Cycle philosophy with worship of Pharasma somehow. Was not expecting SOlarion to come before Technomancer, so pleasant surprise.

UnArcaneElection |

Oh, poop. i knew they had Pathfinder stat write ups too... i get caught up thinking of them as Protoss sometimes and this image didnt really help distance that connection.
{. . .}
Protoss would be Large, have only 2 arms, and 3 fingers on each hand; they would also have really long feet that appear to be part of the leg (like on many animals). And, last time I checked, they wouldn't have a visible mouth at all, even if they didn't wear any covering in the spot corresponding to our mouths.

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Whats up with the energy blade phasing through the gray? i would like to know more.
I would guess either a Displacement spell or some new way to use the Gray's phase ability to work against weapons. It wasn't described as flickering in out out of sight so it probably wasn't their constant blink SLA (depending on how the ethereal plane interacts with moving ships it might not be wisest thing to use during space travel.) This is all assuming Grays and the mentioned spells work the same in starfinder as in pathfinder.

Bellona |

Amazing write-up! I'm not a kasatha-fan, but this actually made them sound intersting.
(I'm amused by the fact that the Solarian class sounds "Monk-like", while the art of Altronus makes him look like he's wearing a bishop's mitre.)
And now I really want to find out more about Solarians. Anything that can be re-flavoured as an alternative Force tradition is most definitely my cup of tea.

Steven "Troll" O'Neal |

IonutRO wrote:We don't know why they have to cover their mouths, just that they do. For their lore, there's not much more than what the wiki says, but People of The Stars and Iron Gods have a bit more info.Maybe their reproductive bits are on their faces, kinda like some cephalopods. That's always been my theory.
Well, from what I understand, they come from a desert planet. They probably started covering their mouth/nose to keep dust out of their lungs, and it stuck due to their traditionalist culture.

Distant Scholar |

We don't know why they have to cover their mouths, just that they do. For their lore, there's not much more than what the wiki says, but People of The Stars and Iron Gods have a bit more info.
They all want to look like Vash the Stampede.

Torbyne |
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Torbyne wrote:Oh, poop. i knew they had Pathfinder stat write ups too... i get caught up thinking of them as Protoss sometimes and this image didnt really help distance that connection.
{. . .}Protoss would be Large, have only 2 arms, and 3 fingers on each hand; they would also have really long feet that appear to be part of the leg (like on many animals). And, last time I checked, they wouldn't have a visible mouth at all, even if they didn't wear any covering in the spot corresponding to our mouths.
Kasatha are very tall, its hard to say how they would measure up to Protoss since everything in Starcraft looks like it was ripped out of a Rob Liefeld cover but even then the protoss posture and armor make them look far larger than they actually are, the concept art of them without armor make them extremely slender.
But head structure, skin color and leathery-ness, covered mouth areas, spirituality/wisdom focus, projecting mystical energy blades from their hands.. the Kasatha even have jumping and running bonuses, very similar to Protoss zealot's movement.
I think the term you are looking for is digitigrade for Protoss legs and yes, the Kasatha have a different structure for lower legs, hands and an extra set of arms. But to me they are still the closest point of comparison, "four armed protoss". The fact that the iconic Kasatha is a warrior-priest with energy blades on his hands makes that comparison even more apt.

Torbyne |
Amazing write-up! I'm not a kasatha-fan, but this actually made them sound intersting.
(I'm amused by the fact that the Solarian class sounds "Monk-like", while the art of Altronus makes him look like he's wearing a bishop's mitre.)
And now I really want to find out more about Solarians. Anything that can be re-flavoured as an alternative Force tradition is most definitely my cup of tea.
Monk like with imagery of a priest but also full body armor and what looks like an officer's sidearm strapped on.
I wonder if that is a heavy or light armor he is wearing...

Torbyne |
Kasatha culture sounds very interesting!
I'm curious about their usage of genships though, seeing as the Drift is a thing. Did they just not have access to that technology?
I think one of the off site hosted interviews touched on that, the Kasatha began their trip before the ascension of Triune and without any other means of FTL travel. i dont know exactly how large their ship is but i feel like it will be on par with Absalom Station (which is Manhattan sized i think?) its getting really hazy now but i think they were guided by a prophecy? Or drawn to the Star Stone? Basically they didnt know what they would find at the end of their trip, just that they had to go.
We also dont know exactly where their homeworld is or if this is the same branch of the species as seen in Iron Gods, though they certainly seem to match up.

Torbyne |
Torbyne wrote:I wonder if that is a heavy or light armor he is wearing...Light.
Neat. Aesthetically the hard plates, protruding gorget and pauldrons make me think of it as a Breastplate or Field Plate, since medium armor is out i was leaning towards Heavy. Have we seen any heavy armors yet? I would think the iconic Vesk would wear some but her armor looked to be less coverage than this suit, trying to account for the bulk of the wearer leaves me thinking this is the most full body or heaviest apparent armor we have seen so far.
Was there a design choice for some kind of look to differentiate how heavy or light would look? Or some hard cut off between the two categories? Thinking about it now, the difference in body types between all of the races is the biggest factor in what looks "heavy" to me so far but i assume we have seen at least a suit or two somewhere already... The Elf from the Castrovel preview perhaps? I recall them wearing an mostly hard plate looking suit.

Torbyne |
Pretty sure this dwarf is wearing heavy armor.
Maybe? I would also buy it is the same armor as Altronus, just dwarf sized. It still looks like rigid plates over the same padded looking gambeson as we see here. The dwarf certainly looks to have an upgraded backpack and some kind of heavy weapon though, i'll give you that. but if that is heavy armor than i am disappointed at the blurred lines between the two categories. looking it over, the back piece looks like the XV84 backpack slung onto Altronus's gear. link for comparison: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-EU/XV84-Crisis-Battlesuit
EDIT: And i notice that we dont get bayonets but the dwarf gets an underbarrel jackhammer on his minning laser. not cool. i want an underbarrel jackhammer for a melee option...

Torbyne |
Altronus appears to be wearing something like lamellar or maybe scale; lots of small plates. Perhaps some sort of lightweight Kevlar or plastic? The dwarf appears to have more large, solid plates.
We cant see the dwarf's upper legs or abdomen but both have rigid plates over their upper torso, lower legs and forearms with what looks like the same style or padded/scaled/lumpy under layer around their faces and biceps. the dwarf might have more rigid plates surrounding his legs while with Altronus we can see the rigid plates cover the legs without full encasing them. Altronus might have less rigid plates over his lower torso as well though this might be due to his physiology requiring more soft coverage around his extra limb protrusions. In the real world the two armors might be considered different and maybe even in the game world they would be marketed by different names but to me they are both perfectly fine representations of Space-Breastplates (Or Star-Breastplates if you prefer) as far as a game term would go, they would both give the same ACs and DEX mods, basically the same entry in the equipment section.

Torbyne |
Torbyne wrote:EDIT: And i notice that we dont get bayonets but the dwarf gets an underbarrel jackhammer on his minning laser. not cool. i want an underbarrel jackhammer for a melee option...It's on my "to-do" list!
I know it is, please dont take my comment as a negative... just a gentle reminder about how cool it would be. Someday i will have an underbarrel shoto lightsaber and be supremely happy about it.

Ouachitonian |

Ouachitonian wrote:Altronus appears to be wearing something like lamellar or maybe scale; lots of small plates. Perhaps some sort of lightweight Kevlar or plastic? The dwarf appears to have more large, solid plates.We cant see the dwarf's upper legs or abdomen but both have rigid plates over their upper torso, lower legs and forearms with what looks like the same style or padded/scaled/lumpy under layer around their faces and biceps. the dwarf might have more rigid plates surrounding his legs while with Altronus we can see the rigid plates cover the legs without full encasing them. Altronus might have less rigid plates over his lower torso as well though this might be due to his physiology requiring more soft coverage around his extra limb protrusions. In the real world the two armors might be considered different and maybe even in the game world they would be marketed by different names but to me they are both perfectly fine representations of Space-Breastplates (Or Star-Breastplates if you prefer) as far as a game term would go, they would both give the same ACs and DEX mods, basically the same entry in the equipment section.
We may have to agree to disagree here. Aside from Altronus' upper legs, all of his armor is made of overlapping smaller plates. That's basically the definition of lamellar. If it's made of some high-tech plastic or Kevlar, that fits pretty readily alongside leather lamellar as light armor. On the other hand, the dwarf's entire torso appears to be covered by a single solid plate, with similar one-piece plates covering the shoulders and forearms. His feet seem to have some sort of segmented armored boot, but there's obviously a need for flexibility there. The padded head covering is a little weird, though. Overall, I'd call it full plate or field plate.

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Besides, the in game zealot is a similar size to a terran marine (armoured, obviously).
For transport purposes, they're twice as big (like a Hydralisk), a comparison one can run using Dark Archons and mind control with some handy transports...