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Any core race? How do things like dwarves, halflings, half-orcs, etc fit in?

I was looking at the original recruitment post, where you say:


To keep things simpler, the pantheon of gods will be that of Golarion although this setting is not on Golarion. All Paizo accepted and interesting 3pp will be allowed if I can get my hands on the information. I am looking for 5 gumshoes...

I can change it though, no problem.

I’ve got the PBS and a pretty high Dex, no problem. Even without Rapid Shot specifically, a BAB Of 7 already gives me an iterative attack. “Do I get iteratives without needing to spend a feat on Rapid Reolad?” might have been a better way to phrase the question.

I’ll probably stick to force shots, if only for the convenience of not needing to buy ammo or spend actions reloading. I’m ok with that tradeoff even against regular AC. Though it might change how often I actually use Rapid Shot, since those -2s can add up. I’ll think about switching that feat out, actually.

HP: 8d8 ⇒ (8, 1, 5, 7, 4, 7, 7, 8) = 47

Are y'all using background skills?

I’m thinking a gun-wielder. Probably not an actual Gunslinger, but a magical class that works with guns, like an Eldritch archer Magus or a Gun Chemist Alchemist. Ideas I’ve been meaning to try that fit this setting better than they do most of Pathfinder.

Any idea if there's a way to get Zeitgeist content in HeroLab? That's generally where I build, and it'd be much easier to do so if I'm not having to fudge in the theme feat and the like.

I’m interested, potentially.

Aha! Excellent! Many thanks, o kind and wise GM.

I've gone back and forth about whether or not I wanted to add another campaign, but this is one I don't want to miss. (Also, predictably for PBP, a couple of my existing campaigns look like they're dying. So I'll have the time.) So here's Drahkn, a kobold slave who fights as a mini-dragon, with maw, claws, and tail. I'll be taking him up in Draconic Bloodrager until I qualify for Dragon Disciple, then following that path until I run out of DD levels.

Kobolds don't get a special FCB for Bloodrager. Is there any chance I could take the Barbarian FCB? To whit:


Barbarian: While you are raging, your racial natural attacks deal +1/4 point of damage.

(As of now he's built with the generic +1 HP for FCB.)

Also, I'll definitely be taking a lot of the Kobold racial feats like Draconic Aspect, Draconic Breath, Noxious Bite (not technically a Kobold racial feat, but close enough. How many PC races can get a breath weapon?) etc. Gotta play up the "paragon of my race" line as a Peregrinus.

Can we do a Peregrinus build based on our race's natural attacks? This idea might be a little silly, but I'm thinking of a Kobold Draconic Bloodrager (into Dragon Disciple eventually). It seems sensible enough to me, but since they aren't technically weapons mentioned in my race's Weapon Familiarity trait (indeed, Kobolds don't have one), I figured I'd ask.

4d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 6, 2) = 16-2=14
4d6 ⇒ (3, 1, 5, 2) = 11-1=10
4d6 ⇒ (4, 5, 5, 1) = 15-1=14
4d6 ⇒ (2, 4, 6, 2) = 14-2=12
4d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 2, 1) = 13-1=12
4d6 ⇒ (6, 4, 5, 6) = 21-4=17

So that's what, a 27 point buy? I'll take it.

It looks like all your styles are TWF, weapon & shield, or two-handed. No choice that caters to the classics duelist with a weapon in one hand and nothing in the other? (Which would also be great for a Magus)

1d100 ⇒ 25

Acid Resistance 5 for a Tiefling? Yes please.

Seems like a Grey Paladin solves that problem nicely, since they’re more morally flexible and lose immunity to fear. I’m definitely going to strongly consider that route. Especially since my original idea would likely turn out extremely similar to the concept panegyric posted above (in class/archetype, if not personality)

I had an idea, but I want to check first: what do you think of Paladins in this AP? The "Driven by Guilt" Campaign Trait seems perfect for one (I'm looking at the Players' Guide now, if you can't tell), but given the Lovecraftian Horror theming, it seems like this one might involve some very morally grey decisions that would make things hard for a paladin. And immunity to fear might be a bit *too* powerful.

Can Aasimar/Tiflings roll on the variant charts? If so, do Tieflings need the Fiendish Heritage feat?

I’m definitely thinking my application would be Alchemist on one side. All the fun of self-mutating discoveries seems like it would fit right in. On the other...this would be a great place for an Aberrant Aegis, but you wanted us to stick to Paizo, right? Probably something combat focused, however I go. Strong possibility of going into the Master Chymist prestige class, to add a split personality to the body horror. It’s too bad that locks me out of the Metamorph archetype.


It looks like y'all need healing, so I think I might try an Oradin build.

Can we take a drawback for an additional trait? What are PHB races? Core?

Hmm. This is one I've never gotten to play. I might just have to give it a shot.

Thorfinn will he going into Dragon Disciple as soon as he can. (Which should be at level 6, unless I’m misremembering) It’s a PrC I’ve long wanted to play but never gotten to.

Not a bad choice, but I think I may go with Stigmatized. It fits his background better. The townsfolk were always a bit nervous about these strange folk with their weird features and magic.

Ingrid Foedottir wrote:

“Animals do not willingly approach within 30 feet of you, unless you or the animal’s master succeeds at a DC 20 Handle Animal, Ride, or wild empathy check. Animal companions, familiars, and mounts granted by your class abilities are immune to this effect.”

So if a Cavalier has this, his mount won’t be effected. But the Ranger friend’s mount will be.

Otherwise it wouldn’t be a drawback. :p

Hmm. Drat. Probably going to change that. I was originally thinking Condescending, but for an all-Ulfen party in the Lands of the Linnorm Kings, that seemed like a cop-out.

Livana Henriksdottir wrote:
Ingrid Foedottir wrote:
Warded against nature surrounded by Druids, Rangers and Witches. It’s a bold strategy cotton, let’s see if it pays off for him.


Yeah it's a fun drawback but you might end up having some ... situations to deal with if the majority of the group has familiars and companions that can't come within 30' of you.

Animal Companions and familiars are specifically exempted though. It’s just wild animals that want to stay far, far away from the guy that smells like dragon. Unless I’m misreading it.

4d6 ⇒ (5, 4, 6, 3) = 18-3=15
4d6 ⇒ (2, 5, 3, 3) = 13-2=11
4d6 ⇒ (6, 4, 2, 5) = 17-2=15
4d6 ⇒ (6, 3, 4, 1) = 14-1=13
4d6 ⇒ (2, 2, 4, 1) = 9-1=8
4d6 ⇒ (5, 1, 3, 2) = 11-1=10

So...16 Point Buy equivalent. I guess I'm going with the 20 PB. Too bad, I like rolling stats. But I also like the Ulfen, so I'll look at submitting something, I guess.


GMPL8665 wrote:
Pyros Aldori wrote:

I'd like to submit Pyros. He has been in two Kingmaker campaigns before, but both campaigns died before leveling up. I've tried to make him a bit more than just your garden-variety Dex fighter. He's something of a Swordlord supremacist, and wants to establish a free New Rostland outside Brevoy (with the ultimate goal of building a powerbase to free Old Rostland). In service of this cause, he's come to worship Milani, and she has granted him divine aid to assist in freeing his people.

Mechanically, this is represented currently by the Possessed Hand feat. In time this aid will grow in power, as represented by the class features of the Steelbound Fighter archetype and VMC Magus. (I hope VMC is okay, by the way. I figured it would be since you said all classes were acceptable, but I can remove it easily if not).

For all that, though, Pyros is still a fighter. He has okay skill points, decent Charisma (only because he might need it for his kingdom role), but that's about it. Speaking of Kingdom roles, he wants to run the place, because, like I said, he has big goals. But as long as the ruler is amicable to his objectives, I could also see him being a General, Marshal, Royal Enforcer, or some other martial role.

Pyros looks intriguing. VMC is, indeed, a thing, I've just never seen anyone willing to give up the feats for it.

I’m a fighter. I got more feats than I know what to do with. lol

Well, the more I worked on it, the more I realized that it's actually not that easy to write what's essentially a toddler dragon. Especially when it comes to motivations. Who can say what inscrutable things drive the mind of a two year old? But I have a first draft. So I present Caeruzeus, Degenerate Wyrmling Brine Dragon. I went with Degenerate over Young after all because it seemed easier to fit into the fluff: having known no other Brine Dragons his entire life and spent all his days in a wizard's lair, away from the open sea or even lakes or rivers, has stunted him, left him feeble, stupid, and surly. He'll grow out of it in time. But that did make it even harder to write his motivations without just saying "Argh, me hungry. Kill, eat, rule. Amass shiny things." So I've tried to leave it open to the development that he'll absolutely have to show in time. I want him to be intelligent, persuasive, and strong. He's none of those right now.

I am, of course, open to questions, comments, etc. As far as party role goes, inherent Fly and Swim speeds make him a good scout, and a breath weapon makes him a pretty good blaster. Those will only improve in time, and in time he'll develop significant spellcasting. Maybe even the sort of spells needed to polymorph himself and serve as a face. He'll be somewhat adaptable to party needs.

I’m probably going to submit a wyrmling as well. Still trying to decide what type. Did I understand correctly that you will allow the Young Template for Dragons? The other -1 CR template, Degenerate, is...a lot more painful, so given my druthers I’d prefer the Young template for knocking a CR 3 wyrmling down a peg.

There's also the Crystal Dragon and Nightmare Dragon, both slightly farther afield, but they work.

Grumbaki wrote:

So, right now we are CR2. If I choose a Draugr, then when we level up, can my PC become a CR3 Draugr Captain?

That is...unless everyone seriously wants to be a party of baby dragons. In which case:

The Race:
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/3rd-party-races/rite-publishing/dragon-tanin im/

The Class:
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/rite-publishing/draconic -exemplar/

Several ways to build them. Especially as they level up.

I’d be totally down.

Grumbaki wrote:
I think it is clear. A party of CR2 dragon wyrmlings. All baby dragons!

That’s what I was thinking. Some of the stronger dragons would require negative templates to get the CR low enough even as hatchlings, but it’s pot doable.

To the GM: could I be the wizard’s pet instead of a hired guardian? With a Young templates Wyrmling, I could have almost literally been born yesterday, and it seems unlikely I’d yet have taken up the mercenary trade. But if I started as an egg the Wizard was hoping to one day train as a guardian, and I’ve only just hatched, only to find my ‘owner’ missing...

Yeah, I'm not interested in PBEM. PBP, on the other hand, is basically 90% of why I have an account here.

In case of a PBP game, I'm also interested in a warforged. They're a fun concept that Pathfinder doesn't really explore. Looks like we might jut have a whole warband of robots. lol

What is pbem?

I notice the original GM nixed tieflings rolling on the variant ability chart, but there seems to be a new GM in town. So...is that still the rule? I'm happy to take the Fiendish Heritage feat if need be.

Thinking I might submit an alchemist. He’ll be a bit of a jack of all trades, but with the Infusion discovery I can hand out Cure extracts as well as brewing potions, so there’ll be some healing, and I can add to it pretty good attacks and plenty of skill points (including Disable Device to be the back-up Rogue).

Arden Kain Brandt wrote:

Kain here, ready, able, willing. I would dare to ask, would you consider trying out elephant in the room feat tax ?

To be honest, it won't really help me much, (saving really one, maybe two feats if you add mounted combat to the "freebie" feats.) but thought if you had been thinking of trying it, a new game may be a good place to start. And it doesn't really change too much.

Either way, thank you for the opportunity.

I second the motion.

I’m in. Got a character pretty much ready, I’ll adjust to your standards and submit.

Initiative: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (20) + 1 = 21

When the creatures begin to attack, Grod strikes out with his axe, but fails to hit any of the creatures.

Attack: 1d20 + 5 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 5 + 1 = 8
Damage: 3d6 + 10 ⇒ (1, 5, 3) + 10 = 19

I’m interested. Will have a character up soon.

Interesting Character wrote:
Saleem Halabi wrote:
So..... Someone else start up a second table using some of us that didn't make it =)
I second this. And third and fourth it too. :)

I’m down.

Ah, I missed that. Mea culpa.

Holy cow. Less than 30 hours from start to finish? Good luck to those who could put together a character in such a short time. If only I didn't work weekends, I guess.

Well, crap. I see the selection right above mine. I thought you weren't picking until tonight? This was going to be my submission post. Oh well, there goes a couple hours of work.

DBH wrote:

I'm interested. As for an AP Skull & Shackles could be a good one.

Rather than being shanghaied as crew you have the player characters being bought or captured to serve as shock troops on the Wormwood.

I like that.

Yikes, quick turnaround. I’ll try to flesh out my idea after work. If I’d known the recruitment would be this quick I’d have done it yesterday.

I’m down. Was just thinking the other day that I’d like to play a Fire Giant. A dragon would be fun too. Probably others as well.

A fun concept (though one that might require modification, lest the AP be too easy) might be a group of monsters of am opposed subtype to the AP’s theme. For example, Ymeri dispatches a strike team of fire-subtype monsters to stop Elvanna in Reign of Winter

I’m interested. Something building toward the Living Monolith prestige class, which I’ve always thought would be pretty thematic for this AP. Maybe an Oread monk?

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I’ve tried this a time or two and it always falls through. Totally down for another shot.

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