Meet the Iconics: Altronus

Monday, June 26, 2017

The countdown to Starfinder is on, and to celebrate, we're continuing to delve into the backstories of the iconic characters that appear in illustrations throughout the Starfinder line. Today we meet Altronus, the iconic solarian!

Illustration by Remko Troost

Altronus Barasul Dovenayan was born into House Holdare, a traditional and respected family on the kasatha generation-ship-turned-homeland Idari. The Holdare trace their lineage to Great Families already well respected when the Idari left Kasath for their centuries-long trip to the Pact Worlds, and have maintained strong connections with both the houses that rose to prominence on the ship while crew functions were paramount, and younger houses risen to prominence since the Idari became an enormous space station. Much of the influence of House Holdare comes from their renown for producing skilled adata—scholar-priests who oversee the removal and preservation of thin slices of the brains of deceased kasatha in technomagical temples called adats. Even in times when ships officers, pilots, and navigators find their social relevance waning, the adata remain highly respected in kasatha society.

The eldest living member of House Holdare, Barasul Naedarin Allar of Clan Allar, Keeper of Ten Million Thoughts and doyen of the ship's adata, took a special interest in Altronus shortly after his birth, though he was but a distant nephew to her. Of course the attention of so great a clan elder comes with more responsibility and expectation than comfort, and though Altronus was raised with significant prestige and resources as a youth, he was also pushed to begin adata training very early, his family even going so far as to name him after famous adata doyens.

While Altronus did not excel at his studies the way his family had hoped, neither did he do poorly, and most people chalked his merely adequate results up to his relative youth. In truth, Altronus was indeed an excellent scholar, simply one who had trouble focusing on a single topic for long. Inevitably, some interesting fact in his studies would pique his interest and draw his research off into unrelated sidetracks. This broad, self-directed education made him adept at making connections between disparate fields, yet earned him little love from traditionalist teachers who saw his scattered studies as a failure to focus and a deliberate rejection of tried-and-true scholarly practices.

Though his close family were dedicated worshipers of Talavet, the Storyteller deity, one of Altronus's more sympathetic teachers felt his wandering focus could be better brought into line with training in the philosophy of the Cycle, which teaches that existence is an endless, connected series of events as stars are born, die, and born again. Though the Cycle is the guiding philosophy of the solarians, contemplative warriors with a tradition stretching far back into the history of Kasath, it's also seen as a useful tool for training body and mind in preparation for the rigors of other vocations.

Altronus was accepted as a student into a prestigious cosmonastery on the Idari, and taught to focus his thoughts on the forces of the universe around him, to draw strength and guidance from the endless repetition of celestial creation and destruction. He took to the training immediately, and soon was among the most advanced students, most of whom sought not just to understand the lessons of the Cycle, but to embody them in the path of the solarian. Altronus, however, was still slated for a career as an adata. This preordained path didn't bother him—as he approached adulthood and the yearlong ritual walkabout of the Tempering, he was allowed to take on guard shifts at the ship's famed Sholar Adat. There he watched over rooms of stasis pods where adata connected to the Sensorium, the technomagical temple archive where flashes of memories from archived kasatha brains could be experienced, sorted, and analyzed. On rare occasions, he was even allowed to experience ancient Sensorium memories himself, and it was these glimpses of lives and secrets long lost that most drove Altronus to complete his studies and become a full adata.

During one of his last scheduled shifts as an adata student, Altronus was assigned to an inactive Sensorium access node—one rarely used, but like all Sensorium access points still important enough to be protected by force fields and a round-the-clock guard. Though most such shifts were uneventful, on that night Altronus was surprised by the appearance of a fully cloaked and apparently rushed senior adata, Remura Esolla Kaiban of Clan Senthen, flashing a warrant to allow unscheduled access to the memory of a recently deceased citizen. Thanks to his tendency to collect trivia, Altronus knew Remura was scheduled to be giving a lecture at the far end of the Idari. What, he wondered, could be of such great importance that the revered adat would end the lecture early, not to mention need an emergency Sensorium warrant?

Altronus knew he should mind his own business, but again curiosity overrode his training. Altronus contacted a friend at the far end of the ship, who informed him that not only had Adata Kaiban not left the lecture early—she was still on the stage.

Immediately Altronus sounded an intruder alert, and rushed into the Sensorium access node to confront the false adata. To his surprise, Altronus discovered not a kasatha, but a small, sickly gray humanoid standing in a pile of robes and strange machinery, with long wires and humming crystals latched onto the Sensorium feed and hundreds of images flashing from the access node to the gray creature's alien devices. Altronus leapt to activate the Sensorium emergency disconnect, but the bulbous creature struck him with a taclash, ripping the pulsecaster from his grip, then shot him with a pistol that fired a searing green ray. Through the resulting haze of pain, Altronus managed to seal the access node's security force fields, trapping himself and the gray intruder inside.

With a shock, Altronus realized the severity of the situation. Any response to his alarm would take precious moments to arrive, and still more to disable the force field. Unarmed, Altronus had little chance of holding the intruder at bay. He had no way of healing the wound from the creature's pistol. For the first time in his life, Altronus truly confronted the fact that he was going to die. Like the stars themselves, he too would be extinguished, his body breaking down and eventually being reincorporated over millennia into new entities, new worlds, new stars. At last, he truly understood the Cycle. With his final moments, he reached out to the universe, embracing it.

And the universe answered.

Altronus was as surprised as the strange gray alien to find a long, shining golden blade suddenly sprouting from his lower right forearm. Yet he had seen enough of solarian training to recognize the blade of stellar energy for what it was, and leapt to put it to use, placing himself between the creature and the node's access panels. The two fought in grim silence, and though it was clear the gray invader was the more skilled, Altronus stood his ground, putting to use every scrap of training he'd gained. He didn't need to win—only buy time, keeping the creature from finishing its infiltration of the Sensorium until help arrived.

Blow after blow fell upon Altronus, and the pistol's strange green rays continued to singe and scale his flesh, but Altronus would not fall. His blade scored many fewer hits, and at times seemed to pass cleanly through his foe to no effect, but he pressed the attack as best he could. As he did, a fierce joy welled up in him, a sense of the rightness of the path that had led him to this moment. This cosmic contentment continued to expand until he had no choice but to release it, unleashing a burst of searing stellar flame in all direction.

At last, ship security arrived, using their command bypasses to deactivate the access node's force fields and dragging the half-dead Altronus from the fight. Yet upon seeing that it was outnumbered, the bulbous-headed alien didn't continue to fight, or attempt to escape. Rather, it paused to take stock of the situation, toggled a device on its arm—and detonated its own head like a bomb.

The security team secured the body and questioned Altronus. When several true adata arrived, they immediately attempted to preserve part of the horrid gray thing's exploded brain. While their efforts to pull meaning from the splatter were greatly hindered, two ideas were recovered. The first was that gray spies had deeply infiltrated the Pact Worlds. The second was that the time of something important called "Phase Three" was coming soon.

The Doyenate of the Idari was informed, and additional security added to Sensorium access nodes. While the matter of gray infiltrators was officially left open to investigation, with no more solid leads and no further incidents, official attention quickly turned elsewhere.

But Altronus couldn't let the issue lie.

Questions filled his mind. How thoroughly had grays infiltrated the Pact Worlds? Had they successfully infiltrated the Idari? What did this gray seek to learn from the Sensorium? Why had it sought to destroy its own brain when capture became inevitable? And, most importantly, what was Phase Three, and how soon would it arrive? Altronus tried to quiet his mind with further solarian training, but while his powers grew, his sense of calm did not.

As it came time for Altronus to begin his Tempering, he realized he could never accept a role as an adata while the mystery of the gray invader hung over him. He sought, and received, approval from his house doyen to abandon the path he had long trod, and informed his family that he was leaving the Idari. He had no firm idea of where he would go, nor how his investigation would advance, only a vow to chase down every strange occurrence that might mark a potential gray incursion within the Pact Worlds. While many of these events had other—sometimes equally strange—explanations, he found enough potential connections to the grays to support his growing suspicion that secret conspiracies indeed existed just out of sight. Still a rigorous scholar, he began to accept that he'd need to give more credence to outrageous claims and unlikely stories if he ever wanted to uncover the truth.

Now inarguably an adult, Altronus has nevertheless remained on his Tempering for much longer than the traditional year, and still sees himself as working to form the traditions that will guide him through his later life. He often signs on with freelancers and adventuring companies as a guard, scout, or researcher in order to support himself—especially if their activities align with his obsession—yet his primary goal always remains researching the shadowy web of plots he first glimpsed that night in the access node. Ironically, while he comes across to many kasatha as overly impetuous and offbeat, his natural kasatha love of traditions, his devotion to the Cycle, and his scholar's desire to monologue about admittedly unconventional research often causes members of other races to see him as an eccentric professor or addled conspiracy theorist. Any skepticism as to his usefulness, however, disappears in the first firefight, as Altronus launches himself into the fray and "lets the cosmos take control," slicing through hordes of enemies with terrifying calm.

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So, solarians sound like Jedi, with the Cycle being like the Force, except that solarians don't need a lightsaber -- they ARE the lightsaber...


bitrunner wrote:
So, solarians sound like Jedi, with the Cycle being like the Force, except that solarians don't need a lightsaber -- they ARE the lightsaber...

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IonutRO wrote:
We don't know why they have to cover their mouths, just that they do. For their lore, there's not much more than what the wiki says, but People of The Stars and Iron Gods have a bit more info.

Ok I will check those out. Thank you.


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He won't be dethroning Keskodai or Quig in my affections, but Altronus is definitely a cool hombre.


bitrunner wrote:
So, solarians sound like Jedi, with the Cycle being like the Force, except that solarians don't need a lightsaber -- they ARE the lightsaber...

Except in this case the force is the power of the life cycles of stars, from the fire and radiance or Stars to the cold and consumption of Black Holes.


Gilfalas wrote:
bitrunner wrote:
So, solarians sound like Jedi, with the Cycle being like the Force, except that solarians don't need a lightsaber -- they ARE the lightsaber...
Except in this case the force is the power of the life cycles of stars, from the fire and radiance or Stars to the cold and consumption of Black Holes.

you know owen said we can choose where our powers come from so force is legitimate as kala from starcraft

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Gilfalas wrote:
bitrunner wrote:
So, solarians sound like Jedi, with the Cycle being like the Force, except that solarians don't need a lightsaber -- they ARE the lightsaber...
Except in this case the force is the power of the life cycles of stars, from the fire and radiance or Stars to the cold and consumption of Black Holes.

Damn now I have the mental image of a Solarian Sailor Scout in my head... Sailorian Galaxia... I blame the personal sharing all those awesome drawings in my Facebook feed.


khadgar567 wrote:
You know Owen said we can choose where our powers come from so force is legitimate as kala from starcraft?

Very true and I am not saying that is not the case but the Solarians design and powers specifically mention Stars and Black Holes and their abilities reflect that concept as well, such as the Starfire Burst in the Solarion wrtite up and in the first play example video when the Solarion chose to be Solar focused for the combat or the gravity manipulation power from later in that same video when the Solarion chose to got Black Hole focused.

It is also why Altronus has a stole showing a star at one end and a vortex or black hole icon at the other in the illustration.

Was merely trying to give him some more information, not say he could not call it the force.


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Sebastian Hirsch wrote:
Damn now I have the mental image of a Solarian Sailor Scout in my head... Sailorian Galaxia... I blame the personal sharing all those awesome drawings in my Facebook feed.

...


IonutRO wrote:

The Kasatha are an PC race and so I can answer your questions in order.

1. Nothing indicates this, no.

2. Their culture forbids them from displaying their mouths in public.

3. They are not telepathic, they are very acrobatic though.

Oh, poop. i knew they had Pathfinder stat write ups too... i get caught up thinking of them as Protoss sometimes and this image didnt really help distance that connection.

1) this write up mentions the blade manifesting on the lower right arm, i get since they have four arms it makes sense to call out the specific arm but it just made me curious. i dont know but it seems like even with four arms there would be one that was the most dominant or culturally expected. i doubt it will be anything major but its a detail that stuck out.

2. Is this stated anywhere or just inferred from the art?


Torbyne wrote:
IonutRO wrote:

The Kasatha are an PC race and so I can answer your questions in order.

1. Nothing indicates this, no.

2. Their culture forbids them from displaying their mouths in public.

3. They are not telepathic, they are very acrobatic though.

Oh, poop. i knew they had Pathfinder stat write ups too... i get caught up thinking of them as Protoss sometimes and this image didnt really help distance that connection.

1) this write up mentions the blade manifesting on the lower right arm, i get since they have four arms it makes sense to call out the specific arm but it just made me curious. i dont know but it seems like even with four arms there would be one that was the most dominant or culturally expected. i doubt it will be anything major but its a detail that stuck out.

2. Is this stated anywhere or just inferred from the art?

2: It's from Pathfinder (from multiple sources, including distant worlds and Iron Gods AP) and has been confirmed (somewhere other than art, but I'm not sure where) as continuing in Starfinder.

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Torbyne wrote:


2. Is this stated anywhere or just inferred from the art?

Inner Sea Races, I think.

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Gilfalas wrote:
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Voss wrote:

Also, 'cosmonastery'

Really?

Yep!
Owen K. C. Stephens, turning typing errors into gold for fun and profit! :-)

I'll take the blame for that one—I came up with "cosmonastery" while writing the Absalom Station article and begged the rest of the team to say it was cool. :D


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James Sutter wrote:
I'll take the blame for that one—I came up with "cosmonastery" while writing the Absalom Station article and begged the rest of the team to say it was cool. :D

Well it is cool. I am just used to seeing Owen's mispelling posts in other places so assumed this was one of the.

Nice job to you all in any case. Please release the core rules early? Please? *Insert picture of sad, begging puppy here*


wonder if they all have a habit of yelling to be heard over their mouth wrappings. and do they just not eat in groups? Just had a weird thought about whistling being completely vulgar since it highlights that they have a mouth...


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IonutRO wrote:
We don't know why they have to cover their mouths, just that they do. For their lore, there's not much more than what the wiki says, but People of The Stars and Iron Gods have a bit more info.

Maybe their reproductive bits are on their faces, kinda like some cephalopods. That's always been my theory.


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James Sutter wrote:
Gilfalas wrote:
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Voss wrote:

Also, 'cosmonastery'

Really?

Yep!
Owen K. C. Stephens, turning typing errors into gold for fun and profit! :-)
I'll take the blame for that one—I came up with "cosmonastery" while writing the Absalom Station article and begged the rest of the team to say it was cool. :D

I assume next to the Cosmonastary is the starectory? Do they maintain a Red Sequence Dwarf Chapel?


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Brew Bird wrote:
IonutRO wrote:
We don't know why they have to cover their mouths, just that they do. For their lore, there's not much more than what the wiki says, but People of The Stars and Iron Gods have a bit more info.
Maybe their reproductive bits are on their faces, kinda like some cephalopods. That's always been my theory.

It's likely a simple case of species wide halitosis.


They're just all dark templar, that's all.
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I think this is my favorite iconic so far. Not much to glean about the Solarion that we didn't know before, so I'll just have to wait for that preview. I like the cycle. Have a budding idea for a Solarion Priest that combines the Cycle philosophy with worship of Pharasma somehow. Was not expecting SOlarion to come before Technomancer, so pleasant surprise.


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Terminalmancer wrote:
I wasn't expecting Mulder to make an appearance, but now that he has, he might be my favorite.

{squints:}

Meet the Iconics: Altronus wrote:
Altronus Barasul Dovenayan was born into House Holdare...

So Altrononus is...

...Fox Holdar(e)?


Torbyne wrote:

Oh, poop. i knew they had Pathfinder stat write ups too... i get caught up thinking of them as Protoss sometimes and this image didnt really help distance that connection.

{. . .}

Protoss would be Large, have only 2 arms, and 3 fingers on each hand; they would also have really long feet that appear to be part of the leg (like on many animals). And, last time I checked, they wouldn't have a visible mouth at all, even if they didn't wear any covering in the spot corresponding to our mouths.


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Aunders wrote:
The Gray mentioned in his story is really interesting to me. I can't wait to see more of them in the Alien Archive.

*** FILE NOT FOUND ***

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Torbyne wrote:


Whats up with the energy blade phasing through the gray? i would like to know more.

I would guess either a Displacement spell or some new way to use the Gray's phase ability to work against weapons. It wasn't described as flickering in out out of sight so it probably wasn't their constant blink SLA (depending on how the ethereal plane interacts with moving ships it might not be wisest thing to use during space travel.) This is all assuming Grays and the mentioned spells work the same in starfinder as in pathfinder.


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Amazing write-up! I'm not a kasatha-fan, but this actually made them sound intersting.

(I'm amused by the fact that the Solarian class sounds "Monk-like", while the art of Altronus makes him look like he's wearing a bishop's mitre.)

And now I really want to find out more about Solarians. Anything that can be re-flavoured as an alternative Force tradition is most definitely my cup of tea.


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Brew Bird wrote:
IonutRO wrote:
We don't know why they have to cover their mouths, just that they do. For their lore, there's not much more than what the wiki says, but People of The Stars and Iron Gods have a bit more info.
Maybe their reproductive bits are on their faces, kinda like some cephalopods. That's always been my theory.

Well, from what I understand, they come from a desert planet. They probably started covering their mouth/nose to keep dust out of their lungs, and it stuck due to their traditionalist culture.


That's what I was thinking too.


IonutRO wrote:
We don't know why they have to cover their mouths, just that they do. For their lore, there's not much more than what the wiki says, but People of The Stars and Iron Gods have a bit more info.

They all want to look like Vash the Stampede.


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UnArcaneElection wrote:
Torbyne wrote:

Oh, poop. i knew they had Pathfinder stat write ups too... i get caught up thinking of them as Protoss sometimes and this image didnt really help distance that connection.

{. . .}

Protoss would be Large, have only 2 arms, and 3 fingers on each hand; they would also have really long feet that appear to be part of the leg (like on many animals). And, last time I checked, they wouldn't have a visible mouth at all, even if they didn't wear any covering in the spot corresponding to our mouths.

Kasatha are very tall, its hard to say how they would measure up to Protoss since everything in Starcraft looks like it was ripped out of a Rob Liefeld cover but even then the protoss posture and armor make them look far larger than they actually are, the concept art of them without armor make them extremely slender.

But head structure, skin color and leathery-ness, covered mouth areas, spirituality/wisdom focus, projecting mystical energy blades from their hands.. the Kasatha even have jumping and running bonuses, very similar to Protoss zealot's movement.

I think the term you are looking for is digitigrade for Protoss legs and yes, the Kasatha have a different structure for lower legs, hands and an extra set of arms. But to me they are still the closest point of comparison, "four armed protoss". The fact that the iconic Kasatha is a warrior-priest with energy blades on his hands makes that comparison even more apt.


Bellona wrote:

Amazing write-up! I'm not a kasatha-fan, but this actually made them sound intersting.

(I'm amused by the fact that the Solarian class sounds "Monk-like", while the art of Altronus makes him look like he's wearing a bishop's mitre.)

And now I really want to find out more about Solarians. Anything that can be re-flavoured as an alternative Force tradition is most definitely my cup of tea.

Monk like with imagery of a priest but also full body armor and what looks like an officer's sidearm strapped on.

I wonder if that is a heavy or light armor he is wearing...


Kasatha culture sounds very interesting!

I'm curious about their usage of genships though, seeing as the Drift is a thing. Did they just not have access to that technology?


TerminalArtiste wrote:

Kasatha culture sounds very interesting!

I'm curious about their usage of genships though, seeing as the Drift is a thing. Did they just not have access to that technology?

I think one of the off site hosted interviews touched on that, the Kasatha began their trip before the ascension of Triune and without any other means of FTL travel. i dont know exactly how large their ship is but i feel like it will be on par with Absalom Station (which is Manhattan sized i think?) its getting really hazy now but i think they were guided by a prophecy? Or drawn to the Star Stone? Basically they didnt know what they would find at the end of their trip, just that they had to go.

We also dont know exactly where their homeworld is or if this is the same branch of the species as seen in Iron Gods, though they certainly seem to match up.


I believe a god told them that their planet was dying and they needed to GTFO.


Judging my the descriptions in Timothy Zahn's novel Evolution, an unarmoured protoss is skinny enough to pass for medium sized. Besides, the in game zealot is a similar size to a terran marine (armoured, obviously).

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Torbyne wrote:
I wonder if that is a heavy or light armor he is wearing...

Light.


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Torbyne wrote:
I wonder if that is a heavy or light armor he is wearing...
Light.

Is Heavy Armor proficiency something a Solarian can take? Or does it mess with their cosmic connection to the universe, like druids wearing too much metal?


I think anyone can take heavy armor proficiency.


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Torbyne wrote:
I wonder if that is a heavy or light armor he is wearing...
Light.

Neat. Aesthetically the hard plates, protruding gorget and pauldrons make me think of it as a Breastplate or Field Plate, since medium armor is out i was leaning towards Heavy. Have we seen any heavy armors yet? I would think the iconic Vesk would wear some but her armor looked to be less coverage than this suit, trying to account for the bulk of the wearer leaves me thinking this is the most full body or heaviest apparent armor we have seen so far.

Was there a design choice for some kind of look to differentiate how heavy or light would look? Or some hard cut off between the two categories? Thinking about it now, the difference in body types between all of the races is the biggest factor in what looks "heavy" to me so far but i assume we have seen at least a suit or two somewhere already... The Elf from the Castrovel preview perhaps? I recall them wearing an mostly hard plate looking suit.

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Pretty sure this dwarf is wearing heavy armor.


Imbicatus wrote:
Pretty sure this dwarf is wearing heavy armor.

Maybe? I would also buy it is the same armor as Altronus, just dwarf sized. It still looks like rigid plates over the same padded looking gambeson as we see here. The dwarf certainly looks to have an upgraded backpack and some kind of heavy weapon though, i'll give you that. but if that is heavy armor than i am disappointed at the blurred lines between the two categories. looking it over, the back piece looks like the XV84 backpack slung onto Altronus's gear. link for comparison: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-EU/XV84-Crisis-Battlesuit

EDIT: And i notice that we dont get bayonets but the dwarf gets an underbarrel jackhammer on his minning laser. not cool. i want an underbarrel jackhammer for a melee option...


Altronus appears to be wearing something like lamellar or maybe scale; lots of small plates. Perhaps some sort of lightweight Kevlar or plastic? The dwarf appears to have more large, solid plates.

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Torbyne wrote:
EDIT: And i notice that we dont get bayonets but the dwarf gets an underbarrel jackhammer on his minning laser. not cool. i want an underbarrel jackhammer for a melee option...

It's on my "to-do" list!


Ouachitonian wrote:
Altronus appears to be wearing something like lamellar or maybe scale; lots of small plates. Perhaps some sort of lightweight Kevlar or plastic? The dwarf appears to have more large, solid plates.

We cant see the dwarf's upper legs or abdomen but both have rigid plates over their upper torso, lower legs and forearms with what looks like the same style or padded/scaled/lumpy under layer around their faces and biceps. the dwarf might have more rigid plates surrounding his legs while with Altronus we can see the rigid plates cover the legs without full encasing them. Altronus might have less rigid plates over his lower torso as well though this might be due to his physiology requiring more soft coverage around his extra limb protrusions. In the real world the two armors might be considered different and maybe even in the game world they would be marketed by different names but to me they are both perfectly fine representations of Space-Breastplates (Or Star-Breastplates if you prefer) as far as a game term would go, they would both give the same ACs and DEX mods, basically the same entry in the equipment section.


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Torbyne wrote:
EDIT: And i notice that we dont get bayonets but the dwarf gets an underbarrel jackhammer on his minning laser. not cool. i want an underbarrel jackhammer for a melee option...
It's on my "to-do" list!

I know it is, please dont take my comment as a negative... just a gentle reminder about how cool it would be. Someday i will have an underbarrel shoto lightsaber and be supremely happy about it.


Torbyne wrote:
Ouachitonian wrote:
Altronus appears to be wearing something like lamellar or maybe scale; lots of small plates. Perhaps some sort of lightweight Kevlar or plastic? The dwarf appears to have more large, solid plates.
We cant see the dwarf's upper legs or abdomen but both have rigid plates over their upper torso, lower legs and forearms with what looks like the same style or padded/scaled/lumpy under layer around their faces and biceps. the dwarf might have more rigid plates surrounding his legs while with Altronus we can see the rigid plates cover the legs without full encasing them. Altronus might have less rigid plates over his lower torso as well though this might be due to his physiology requiring more soft coverage around his extra limb protrusions. In the real world the two armors might be considered different and maybe even in the game world they would be marketed by different names but to me they are both perfectly fine representations of Space-Breastplates (Or Star-Breastplates if you prefer) as far as a game term would go, they would both give the same ACs and DEX mods, basically the same entry in the equipment section.

We may have to agree to disagree here. Aside from Altronus' upper legs, all of his armor is made of overlapping smaller plates. That's basically the definition of lamellar. If it's made of some high-tech plastic or Kevlar, that fits pretty readily alongside leather lamellar as light armor. On the other hand, the dwarf's entire torso appears to be covered by a single solid plate, with similar one-piece plates covering the shoulders and forearms. His feet seem to have some sort of segmented armored boot, but there's obviously a need for flexibility there. The padded head covering is a little weird, though. Overall, I'd call it full plate or field plate.


That might be the definition of lamellar, but the definition refers to small, 2 inch tall, 1 inch wide plates. Altronus' armor is NOT lamellar, it's "banded armor", which did not exist historically outside of roman lorica segmentata.


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Fardragon wrote:
Besides, the in game zealot is a similar size to a terran marine (armoured, obviously).

For transport purposes, they're twice as big (like a Hydralisk), a comparison one can run using Dark Archons and mind control with some handy transports...

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Cole Deschain wrote:
For transport purposes, they're twice as big

That's just the extra room set aside for their ego.

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