Galahad's Kingmaker Expanded

Game Master Galahad0430

Hi, this is Veniir's paladin, thanks for choosing me. Waiting for a discussion thread to post on.

Congrats to everyone who was selected!

Second, both areas are very trap heavy and I was surprised to see no Rogue submissions, except one. I have an opening for a trap specialist, anyone not selected can resubmit such a character in the next couple of days if they would like to still play and do so with that type of character.

Hey, if it's alright I've got another character sitting around that was my Plan B in case I changed my mind on the Swashbuckler. It isn't exactly a Halfling Rogue, but she can definitely play the part.

Also here's some art of her!

I have rejigged Raok slightly to give him Disable device.

His background suits as he is the ambassador of his people due to his youth where he spent much time amongst the humans.

He learned to get past the traps set so that he could survive with his friends.

I altered his Dex to be 18 and his Wis to 17 to emphasise his dextrousness.

With a Disable Device of +9
Climb Speed, meaning he can spiderman his way around and small size he is the ideal being to get in and help the group get past those nasty perils.

Plus he is also a Wisdom based caster which means he has a high perception of +7.

He can see in the Dark and is as stealthy as the wind +12

and in the end he can even throw in a few healing spells with a good word for the great Jalaijatali.

Wow thank you for selecting me!

Edit: I can edit Gaxi to have some Disable Device usage through a trait.

Congratulations everyone! Have a great time!
I'm probably going to pull from the runnings here, but thanks so much for your consideration.

Have fun!

Thanks for picking me, DM!

Hi, this is Veniir's paladin, thanks for choosing me. Waiting for a discussion thread to post on.

Echoing this. :)

Thank you for the selection! Looking forward to it!

Thank you for giving Dax this chance! This is going to be fun!

Looking forward to crafting weapons of m.... Uh. Weapons that people enjoy using to conq... Uhm... Defend the lands from intruders

Yes yes. Defend the man beasts

Thank you for the selection! Looking forward to this.

Congrats all, have fun exploring the river lands! (Don’t die)

Thanks for putting faith in those of us chosen out of so many worthy submissions. We'll try to live up to the challenges! Looking forward to this, just like everyone else.

Second, both areas are very trap heavy and I was surprised to see no Rogue submissions, except one. I have an opening for a trap specialist, anyone not selected can resubmit such a character in the next couple of days if they would like to still play and do so with that type of character.

I submitted the druid Radek. I've got this guy whose concept is that he's Golarion Indiana Jones from Almas University in Andoran. He can easily slot in as a cartographer hired to accompany the expedition to chart the maps, his personal interest would be finding some maguffin that rumor says was lost in the region.

Archaeologist Bard
Primary combat role: ranged/buffing
Primary party role: Knowledge skills/exposition for the DM and finding/disabling traps

Perhaps one of us could multiclass if necessary as well. Athrehon wouldn't be planning on it, at this point, but who knows? It could happen. lol

There are indeed several ways that one of us could handle it...such as a slayer taking trap finding at lvl 2. However, if the GM would like to bring in one more person to handle it, then I would hesitate to close off that slot.

From a purely player point of view though, I'd hope that whomever is brought in could handle magical traps. Otherwise that is a huge blindspot for the party.

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Also because I find it interesting...

Humans
* Pyros – Human Swordlord (Front line melee)
* Veniir – Human Paladin (Front line melee)
* Meredith – Human Cavalier (Front line melee)
* Cassia – Human Slayer (Front line melee)
* Daxiana – Human Ranger (Ranged)
* Elina – Human Cleric (Divine)
* Stanislaw – Human Warpriest (Divine)

Elves and Half-Elves
* Aelbourne – Half-Elf Rogue (Skill/Support)
* Piret – Half-Elf Investigator (Skill/Support)
* Elenaril – Half-Elf Druid (Divine)
* Athrehon – Elven Sorcerer (Arcane)

Dwarves and Gnomes
* Sven – Dwarf (Front Line Melee / Support)
* Maevus – Gnome Druid (Divine)

Exotic/Rare Species
* Gaxi – Kobold Sorcerer (Arcane)
* Ikit – Ratfolk Magus (Front Line / Arcane)

Quite interested for the last member, a trap specialist, to see where they fall in this!

There are indeed several ways that one of us could handle it...such as a slayer taking trap finding at lvl 2. However, if the GM would like to bring in one more person to handle it, then I would hesitate to close off that slot.

From a purely player point of view though, I'd hope that whomever is brought in could handle magical traps. Otherwise that is a huge blindspot for the party.

Oh, I agree with you Sven. What I should have added was "For whichever group doesn't get the trap-dealing newcomer...since there will be two parties wandering about the Stolen Lands."

Ngl, taking trapfinding at 2 would mess up Cassia's build. Am planning on taking Ranger Combat Style and going down the TWF path.

Sven Langebukk wrote:

There are indeed several ways that one of us could handle it...such as a slayer taking trap finding at lvl 2. However, if the GM would like to bring in one more person to handle it, then I would hesitate to close off that slot.

From a purely player point of view though, I'd hope that whomever is brought in could handle magical traps. Otherwise that is a huge blindspot for the party.

Oh, I agree with you Sven. What I should have added was "For whichever group doesn't get the trap-dealing newcomer...since there will be two parties wandering about the Stolen Lands."

Investigators have trap finding. So I'd assume that one group would get Piret and the other would get the trap specialist that is yet to be chosen.

Gaxi can absolutely take a trait that gives Disable Device as a class skill and replace the skill rank from Spellcraft to Disable Device. He might not be as good as an actual rogue but it works.

Alternatively, if the DM is okay with it, I can retool Gaxi to be an eldritch scoundrel rogue archetype.

Aelbourne would also have trapfinding as a Rogue, unless I missed him dropping out somewhere, he should be able to deal with traps. So between Piret and Aelbourne, we should be good, they just need to be split between the groups.

Have fun with this game!

Ikit is not keyed towards it, but eventually he could 'make' a trap Smith. :P

Shhh all of you, I just tooled Raok to be Trappy, let the GM at least reject me as the last pick before you go changing.

Nope, I'm still here. Fortunately, Scout is one of the few Rogue archetypes that doesn't swap out trapfinding.

And Piret has this:

Track (Ex):
A natural philosopher adds half his level (minimum 1) on Survival checks to follow tracks.
This replaces trapfinding.

So indeed, Aelbourne is the current one and only trap specialist.

Good news for Raok and any other trapfinders that are still trying to join then.

Athrehon wrote:

Sven Langebukk wrote:

There are indeed several ways that one of us could handle it...such as a slayer taking trap finding at lvl 2. However, if the GM would like to bring in one more person to handle it, then I would hesitate to close off that slot.

From a purely player point of view though, I'd hope that whomever is brought in could handle magical traps. Otherwise that is a huge blindspot for the party.

Oh, I agree with you Sven. What I should have added was "For whichever group doesn't get the trap-dealing newcomer...since there will be two parties wandering about the Stolen Lands."

Investigators have trap finding. So I'd assume that one group would get Piret and the other would get the trap specialist that is yet to be chosen.

Piret traded away Trapfinding by taking the Natural Philosopher archetype. She does still have Disable Device in class though and it's trained. Her bonus is +7 currently.

This leaves magical traps not covered. With EitR rules a Rogue dip doesn't do much at all for Piret. I could probably work in a 2 level dip into Slayer, but I'd really need to wait until after 3rd level for that so no Trapfinding until 5th level when she would get a Slayer Talent.

Woohoo! Let's go!

Sven Langebukk wrote:

Athrehon wrote:

Sven Langebukk wrote:

There are indeed several ways that one of us could handle it...such as a slayer taking trap finding at lvl 2. However, if the GM would like to bring in one more person to handle it, then I would hesitate to close off that slot.

From a purely player point of view though, I'd hope that whomever is brought in could handle magical traps. Otherwise that is a huge blindspot for the party.

Oh, I agree with you Sven. What I should have added was "For whichever group doesn't get the trap-dealing newcomer...since there will be two parties wandering about the Stolen Lands."

Investigators have trap finding. So I'd assume that one group would get Piret and the other would get the trap specialist that is yet to be chosen.

Piret traded away Trapfinding by taking the Natural Philosopher archetype. She does still have Disable Device in class though and it's trained. Her bonus is +7 currently.

This leaves magical traps not covered. With EitR rules a Rogue dip doesn't do much at all for Piret. I could probably work in a 2 level dip into Slayer, but I'd really need to wait until after 3rd level for that so no Trapfinding until 5th level when she would get a Slayer Talent.

Investigators also get it at level 1, btw.

The Archetype alters it. And with Piret's previous point in mind, it would be better for us to go with a second rather than waiting five levels for her to have it.

Shhh all of you, I just tooled Raok to be Trappy, let the GM at least reject me as the last pick before you go changing.

I know, right?!? XD

It's a bit weird, I think, that occultists get Disable Device natively without a way to deal with magical traps (given that much of their shtick is dealing with arcane/occult doohickeys), but I'm trying to make it work for Tsia.

One expedient I'm thinking of leaning on, in part (along with UMD shenanigans), although mainly tongue-in-cheek, until she can get her hands on the right gear, is making use of the options for summon monster spells for Calistrians: they can get tiefling rogues out of summon monster II, and with occultists' base power for conjuration implements, servitor...

Tsia: "I love work! I can watch people work all day!"
The party: "..."
(Bis): "Shouldn't you be ... doing something?"
Tsia: "Of course! I'm supervising." :)

She's a born courtier, so I guess it's sort of a "Great maids have little maids, upon their staff to help 'em, and these small maids have lesser maids, and so ad infinitum," situation.

Apart from the magical artifacts angle with the occultist, it may be a bit strange that a lady and lady's companion like Tsia might have some skill with lockpicking and trap-dodging and whatnot, but I think it fits the outsider perspective I'm trying to find for her, as an Ilverani from Casmaron who wandered out of the east. Back home she might be eminently respectable, but here she's a weird, opinionated foreigner, and she's run into enough villains that she's found it highly convenient to know how to pick a lock or quietly cut the wire leading to a signal bell.

"I beg your pardon. I thought we had agreed, 'What happened in Pitax, stays in Pitax?'"

*Discreet cough.* Anyway, apart from some adjustments to her gear, I can probably move a skill point (and occultist focus) to boost her Perception. Leaning to delaying her first rank in Bluff, and leaning into the ingénue persona.

I just want to make it clear. I am looking for a trap specialist, not just someone with the skill. The DCs on these traps tend to scale quickly by early-mid level. That means almost definitely the Rogue chatacter class, with good perception.

Discussion thread is up. I will be contacting people as well. I have a split already, but feel free to discuss it and I might make adjustments accordingly.

I just want to make it clear. I am looking for a trap specialist, not just someone with the skill. The DCs on these traps tend to scale quickly by early-mid level. That means almost definitely the Rogue character class, with good perception.

Thanks for the clarification!

Hmm. I do have the vague outlines of an eldritch scoundrel rogue somewhere in my folder of character ideas (with a splash of warpriest planned, for background purposes), but honestly I don't think I'm feeling an absolute rogue right now.

I would be thrilled if you think I've made a compelling case, but if not, I'll reiterate my best wishes and trouble you no further on the point. Enjoy the campaign, in any case! *Curtseys.* :)

Raok is willing to Dip as a Rogue (Trapfinding which gives the ability to disarm magical traps is level 1)

He may even go for 3 levels for the Finess weapon training, depending if unchained Rogue is allowed.

Yeah i have the same question as Raok, is unchained Rogue allowed?

noly unchained rogue is allowed.

Alright, This is Degnax's new submission a Half-elf (Drow Heritage) Unchained Rogue trapsmith. backstory and character sheet are all in his bio found here Maeric

He is a Scout/Frontline/Trap Specialist with an 11 to perception and 10 to disable device (11 before ACP). I was thinking of diving into making traps too as a fun addition during downtime. His most probable kingdom role would be spymaster, but any dex based roll would suit him as well

as I stated in my first submission, I'm almost completely new to the kingmaker campaign, having only played a brief portion of the videogame before my game crashed. I'm not new to pbp but I haven't had a lot of luck in campaigns lasting long so my overall experience is still fairly low. I am able to post daily for the most part, with the exception of things happening in life. Thank you for giving us a second chance at a submission!

Maeric, go ahead and head into the gameplay and discussion threads.

Raok and Tsia, you are on my standby list as I may be exapnding to more chharacters after the prologue chapter. You will be the first ones contacted.

Thanks so much!

To everyone on their way to the Stolen Lands, go forth and conquer!