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Hey everyone, I will be traveling with the family from tomorrow until the 21st of July. My posting will be sparse or most likely, nonexistent ;)


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Hey Team, do any of you use Discord?

I am thinking some of these discussions regarding what to do next could move along MUCH faster if we had a group live chat somewhere.


Male Elf

Hi everyone!
We could play a session on Skype one of these nights. What do you think?


Human| Male| Fighter 1| HP: 6/9| AC 8| THAC0 18

possible, but would need to know a bit in advance so I can clear my schedule...might be fun though


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Al'Lan Mandragoran wrote:

Hi everyone!

We could play a session on Skype one of these nights. What do you think?

Who is going to DM that though ? :P


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Hey gang, I spent some time compiling information about the setting - hope you find it interesting:

First a bit of History about Karameikos (where we are adventuring at the moment):

In ancient times the land of Traldar was home to a heroic civilisation of barbarian-like people. About two thousand years ago, a massive army of beast-men attacked the Traldar people. The war raged for years and spawned countless legends (chief among them the stories of Halav, Petra, and Zirchev, the later patron Immortals of Traladara); but eventually, the gnolls were driven out, leaving the glory of the Traldar heroes in ruins. The people, now calling themselves the Traladarans, then founded a nation of loosely allied, small communities in the deep woods.

About a century ago, the Thyatians, on one of their periodic conquest sweeps, moved an army into Traladara, conquering the coastal regions and some inland communities and declaring the nation to be a protectorate of the Empire.

Some thirty years ago, a Thyatian Duke named Stefan Karameikos traded his vast family fortune and homeland, the prosperous Duchy of Machetos, to Emperor Thincol I for clear, autonomous title to what was considered the uncivilised lands of Traladara. He moved in with his own army and followers, taking over where Thyatian governors had ruled, and began an aggressive program of road building, citadel construction, and other fortification.

The People

There are several distinct cultures present in Karameikos. The Traladarans, a pale, dark-haired people, have lived here for thousands of years. Energetic, romantic, artistic and superstitious; they are descendants of the Traldar. The Traladarans are ruled by a conquering class of Thyatians brought here about thirty years ago by Duke Stefan Karameikos.

There are also two elven clans here: the vigorous Callarii in the central parts and the Vyalia in the northern parts of the eastern forests. In the north is a community of dwarves and gnomes called Highforge.

There are many frictions between the Thyatians and Traladarans, but increasingly they are coming to think of themselves as a single nation. Despite the exploitative nature of many Thyatian nobles, who see the Traladarans as a work resource to be used for maximum profit, Stefan has enforced many laws to ensure Traladaran equality.

Government and Religion

Karameikos is officially a Grand Duchy for political reasons, but is effectively a monarchy. Stefan Karameikos, the ruler, chose to be only (Grand) Duke as a political signal to other nations that his nation has retained its ties to the Thyatian Empire, and that to invade Karameikos would therefore be to invade Thyatis. The nation also has several semi-autonomous baronies.

In the western part of Karameikos, on the Gulf of Halag facing the Five Shires, is one of several semi-autonomous baronies, the Black Eagle Barony. Duke Stefan’s black sheep cousin, Baron Ludwig von Hendriks, rules it. Von Hendriks’ minions have raided into Karameikos, Darokin, Ierendi, Minrothad and, especially, the Five Shires, wherever they could slaughter and rob for the greatest profit. Nominally protected by Duke Stefan’s inability to believe such horrid stories of one of his own relatives, Baron Ludwig acts with impunity in this part of the world.

The patron Immortals of the Traladarans are Zirchev, Petra and Halav, the heroic leaders of the Traldar war against the “beast-men”. The so-called Church of Traladara worships them. Thyatians for the most follow the Church of Karameikos, founded by Thyatian priests about thirty years ago.

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And this helps a bit in explaining why there are two main... Perspectives when discussing Karameikos Religion.

The Church of Traladara:

The Church of Traladara is a Lawful religion whose beliefs are based on the Song of Halav, a legend in verse handed down for generations by those who observed the heroic deeds of the triad Halav–Petra–Zirchev during the Traladaran golden age. The church’s main objective is to return Traladara to this age via the worship of the three Immortals and the morals within the Song of Halav. It tries to grant security to its followers and combat the malignant forces that plot the fall of the Traladarans and their protectors.

The malignant forces are especially associated with the Immortals that protect the humanoids that have threatened or invaded Traladara. The main two are Ranivorus (patron of the gnolls that caused the end of the golden age), and the Goat (Orcus) – a sinister being responsible for acts of brutality and violence and the protector of all the monsters that hide in the shadows (like undead and lycanthropes). Sects and nations that seek to weaken or destroy the Traladaran people and the faithful of Halav, Petra and Zirchev are treated with suspicion and hatred.

According to Traladaran doctrine, these are the definitive beliefs that must be respected by the faithful to attain salvation and divine favor:

1. The events described in the Song of Halav are true. King Halav, Queen Petra and Zirchev are now Immortals who guide the righteous and punish evil within the Traladaran lands.
2. Harming, cruelty, killing and lying are sins, committed out of weakness or because of the interference of evil or animal spirits.
3. Sins have a punishment appropriate to their seriousness, including both corporal and spiritual punishment. Only death redeems the most serious sins like murder or demon worship.
4. All those who plot either to destroy the Traladarans or to hinder or offend the faiths of Halav, Petra and Zirchev are evil.
5. All humanoids are evil, as testified in the Song of Halav, and their Immortals are responsible for all the evil and pain in the world. Therefore, humanoids and their protectors must be annihilated wherever they are found for peace and humanity’s good.
6. The use of ritual magic (like the reading of tea leaves, palms, cards or animal entrails, the use of charms or philtres) is an expression of human curiosity towards the world and is tolerated only when it is directed by the will of those who guard against evil or to improve the human condition. The Immortals sometimes reward the use of such methods with glimpses of the future or of the world’s nature, but only when the heart of either the practitioner or his patron isn’t stained by evil or immoral desires.
7. An individual’s role in the afterlife is determined by his wisdom, faith, and goodness upon his death.
8. Traladara’s golden age will only return if the belief in Halav, Petra, and Zirchev remains unfaltering and when all the believers respect the Church’s doctrine.

To sum up, the Church of Traladara’s philosophy is that the people should do no evil to others but live peacefully with their neighbors and the Immortals. If someone should transgress this, then the community must punish the guilty party in proportion to his sin. Therefore, the private relations between men and women or within the family are matters in which the Church does not get involved, unless the aforementioned sins occur.

The role of a Traladaran cleric is to counsel the young based on their own experiences and the morals within the Song of Halav, to use their wisdom to resolve disputes and protect the faithful from the hidden dangers of demons or of their more direct servants. Traladaran clerics therefore advise the young, officiate marriages and funerals, give moral judgments, preach the Church’s philosophy of peace and harmony, and when needed fight to save endangered life and defeat evil.

Petra is the Warden of Traladara, Patroness of Defenders, Patroness of Besieged Cities
Symbol: A round shield with a boss in its centre; some may consider it a potter's wheel viewed from above
Portfolio: Defence and safekeeping, patriotism, courage, resistance, virtue, fighting clerics, besieged settlements.

Halav is the Patron of Warfare, Patron of Weaponsmiths, Patron of Traladara, Patron of Kendach, Protector of Milenia, Bane of the Humanoids.
Symbol: A sword plunged into an anvil
Portfolio: Warfare, strategy, tactics, arms, weaponsmithing, strength, willpower, sacrifice, fighting humanoids

Zirchev is the Protector of the Sylvan Races, Patron of Hunting
Symbol: A hawk riding a wolf
Portfolio: Sylvan races, animals, survival, tolerance, magic, nature, outcasts, hunting

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The Church of Karameikos:

The Church of Karameikos is a Lawful religion founded by Oliver Jowett, a former member of the Church of Thyatis. Leaving Thyatis to follow Duke Stefan Karameikos III, Jowett and his followers decided to form a new church that combined the doctrine of the Church of Thyatis with the needs of the Karameikian people.

In short, Jowett tried to unite the Thyatian immigrants and the Traladaran natives under one flag and one philosophy by creating a religion appropriate to the new nation (Karameikos, not Traladara or Thyatis) and give its followers a new cultural identity to its faithful: that of the modern Karameikian (a fusion of Thyatian and Traladaran). Therefore, the Church of Karameikos is similar to the Church of Thyatis, but with some distinguishing features.

Patriarch Jowett, in an attempt to acquire followers from amongst the locals while retaining the support of the Thyatian immigrants, took some traditions from the Church of Thyatis and began to build on them until he had formed a new religion based on the philosophy of the “pure soul”. The religion is not directly connected to the Thyatian Empire (still seen as oppressors by many of the Traladarans) but typical of the newly formed Grand Duchy of Karameikos. This philosophy holds that no sin is too great that it cannot be forgiven with an act of sacrifice and penance (even if many converts misinterpret this and think they can do anything and be forgiven).

The doctrines of the Church of Karameikos are as follows:

1. The acts of violence, murder, theft, adultery, lying, treason and cohabitation without being married in front of Immortals are all sins that stain the sinner’s soul.
2. The use of magic that does not have its basis in the rituals of the church is only ignorant superstition that leads the faithful astray, and it must therefore be avoided and condemned
3. The sins demand action and a ceremony of purification of varying severity depending on the sin, to purify the soul.
4. The unwillingness to wash oneself is a sin itself, punishable by removal from the church. Its ultimate result can result in eternally damning the sinner’s soul, which can no longer be purified.
5. Your role in the afterlife is governed by your accrued sins when you die.
6. It is the responsibility of the church’s members to spread the church’s philosophy to unbelievers and to carry its benefits to other peoples and nations.

The common believer fears his sins will divorce him from the church and his fellow worshippers. He fears that he will accumulate so many sins that he will be unable to be purified, and because of this, he always tries to confess his own sins to the clergy and respect the punishments and the acts of contrition that the sins earn. Therefore, the clerics have an enormous influence with the faithful, as they know all their sins and secrets. As a result, it can appear that some of the Church of Karameikos’s clergy demand large donations to purify the soul of wealthy or weaker people, or that they use the information revealed in the confessional either for their own advantage or to keep control of the country’s politics (which in effect happens regularly).

The Church of Karameikos is a religion based upon a rigid philosophical and moral doctrine (the pure soul). The Church offers its followers a pantheon of Right as an example for proper veneration – Thyatian Immortals who perfectly embody the Church’s theological virtues. This is used by Jowett as a contrast to the triad of the Church of Traladara (Vanya as an alternative to Halav, Patura as an alternative to Petra and Ilsundal as an alternative to Zirchev) and to attract the support of Karameikos’ demihuman population (hence the introduction of Kagyar and Ilsundal as generic patrons of crafts and nature). In this sense, Asterius embodies the ideals of Tolerance and Peace that prosperity provides; Kagyar those of Honesty, Talent and Work; Ilsundal symbolizes Wisdom and Purity; Vanya embodies Courage and Defence of the Valorous and Patura embodies Maternity, Fertility and Charity.

Tarastia is the Patroness of Justice and Revenge, Mistress of Truth and Order
Symbol: Black executioner’s axe
Portfolio: Law, Order, Truth, Justice, Just Vengeance

Chardastes is the Patron of Medicine and Healing
Symbol: A silver bell
Portfolio: Medicine, healing, health, purification, learning and knowledge

Asterius is the Patron of Trade and Money, Patron of Communication, Protector of Merchants and Thieves
Symbol: The moon (different cults can represent different phases of the moon) or a silver coin
Portfolio: Trade, profit, communication, travel, cleverness, merchants, thieves, healing (only in Robrenn)

Vanya is the Patroness of War and Conquerors, Patroness of the Heldannic Knights, Patroness of the Kubitts
Symbol: Two short swords crossed over a vertical spear or a black rampant lion on white field (the Heldannic Knights' standard)
Portfolio: War, conquest, victory, pride, honor, strength, feminine power, birth (only in Milenia)

Kagyar, The Artisan is the Patron of Dwarves, Patron of Craftsmen, Protector of Miners
Symbol: Hammer and chisel crossed
Portfolio: Dwarves, crafts, metallurgy, sculpture, knowledge, miners

Patura is the Patroness of Women and Motherhood, Patroness of Hearth and Family
Symbol: A blazing hearth
Portfolio: Women, family, faithfulness, children, motherhood

Ilsundal, The Wise is the Patron of Elves
Symbol: Silhouette of the Tree of Life
Portfolio: Protecting elves and nature, wisdom, scholarship, magic, traditions, serenity & peace

Therefore, the church doesn’t worship one Immortal above the others, and doesn’t impose the worship of any on its followers, but asks them to follow the virtuous model of the Just. Additionally, The Church of Karameikos does not vehemently condemn the other faiths (in order to prevent civil war within Karameikos). It prefers to direct its worshippers’ hatred towards sin and demons – particularly against the Grim Reaper (Thanatos). He is the father of all those vices that constantly tempt a faithful’s soul and which it is vital to resist to avoid damnation and the losing of his soul.

Currently about 25% of the Karameikian population follow the Church’s doctrine. The majority of these followers are Thyatians and nobles in positions of power – although a number of Traladarans have been converted over the last thirty years and have begun to spread the religion among their fellow compatriots.

ORDER OF THE GRIFFON
The Order of the Griffon is the military branch of the Church of Karameikos and clerics, fighters and paladins are able to be part of it. Belonging to this order is an act of great prestige for a Karameikan fighter; inasmuch as its members are always engaged in adventures in favor of the Church, the nation and the common people, and for this, each year many combatants seek to enter. Aspiring members are presented to Patriarch Jowett of Specularum; who assigns a supervisor of the Order to each of them. The supervisor assesses their combat ability, their knowledge of Karameikan doctrine and their character.

To become a member of the Order of the Griffon an individual must meet the following requirements:

1. Have a good combat ability (be at least 5th level).
2. Be a follower of the Church of Karameikos.
3. Make a solemn oath to fulfil the tasks of the Order and to respect his superiors.
4. The sex of the aspirant is not influential, but they do not admit humanoids or monstrous creatures, nor thieves or arcane spellcasters.

A member’s responsibilities are:

1. Donate 25% of his income to the Church of Karameikos as part of the Order of the Griffon.
2. Obey the dictates of the Church of Karameikos with regard to sins and purifications.
3. Accept missions and the duties assigned to you by the Patriarch of the church or by his superiors of the Order (these missions are often adventures or military missions in the interests of the Order, of the Church or of the nation).

A member of the Order has the following benefits:

Asylum: The possibility to ask for asylum in any consecrated temple of the Church of Karameikos or building of the Order of the Griffon.
Respect: A Knight of the Griffon should be treated by all Karameikians as if he were a noble knight (faithful to the crown of Karameikos), despite his real social rank, given the respect and admiration that the Order enjoys within the nation and he should thus be accommodated by nobles and take part in their adventures.
Brotherhood: A member of the Order enjoys the company and the friendship of his confederates, who will become his friends and do their utmost in order to help him in moments of need with spiritual, military or economic assistance.

The Order of the Griffon’s members are called Knights of the Griffon and always bear a symbol that declares their membership (a white rampant griffon on a black field). This can be anything from a simple cloak pin, to an elaborate medallion, to a worn tabard or to a picture on a shield or on the armor. A member can resign at any time, or be banished if he does not honor his own responsibilities.

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Sorry, it is a bit of an info/lore dump, but I still think it makes for an interesting read. At least, I had a good time collating it :)


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Hey everyone, I will need to be away for some time due to a family emergency. Please consider the game on hold for now.


Male Elf

Dani, és um padre de uma destas igrejas?


Male Elf

Sorry, now in english, Pah d'Dreco are you a cleric of One of these churches?


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Hey gents. I am back online and will move us along later today.


Female N Cleric (Miner) 1 | HP: 7/7 |AC: 5 | STR: 13(+1) | DEX: 11(+0)| CON: 15(+1) | INT: 8(-1) | WIS: 12 (+0) | CHA: 14(+1) | Saves: | D: 11 | W: 12 |P: 14 |B: 16 |S: 15

Hi all. I was in GM Obermind's other old school game and he offered an invite over here. Just wanted to pop in, say hello, and follow along until all is ready to bring another on board.


Thief Lvl 1 | HP 3/3| AC 6 | Thac0 Melee: 18 Ranged:18 |

Welcome!

Just looked at the profile...Hi Tareth, good to be in another game with you.


Human Wizard 1 | HP 4 | AC 11(14 mage armor) | Staff -2, 1d4 Dagger +1(N), 1d4 | Spellcasting +4 (DC 10 + spell tier). |Spells Detect Magic: near, focus, sense presence of magic, Magic Missile: ADV to cast, 1d4 to one far, Sleep: near sized cube, 0-2 inside fall asleep, Mage Armor (self, AC 14, 10 rounds)

Hello as well, I'm John, the other from GM Overmind's old school game. I need to correct my alias to the different system than what we were playing and catch up a bit. Just wanted to say hello like Ralina.


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Welcome Ralina and Creeg! ;)


Female N Cleric (Miner) 1 | HP: 7/7 |AC: 5 | STR: 13(+1) | DEX: 11(+0)| CON: 15(+1) | INT: 8(-1) | WIS: 12 (+0) | CHA: 14(+1) | Saves: | D: 11 | W: 12 |P: 14 |B: 16 |S: 15
Kallum Vorrs wrote:

Welcome!

Just looked at the profile...Hi Tareth, good to be in another game with you.

Hey there Talomyr. Same here.

Grand Lodge

Male Aasimar Wizard 18/ Rogue2

Hmmm what to play next another halfling or somethinf else?


Thief Lvl 1 | HP 3/3| AC 6 | Thac0 Melee: 18 Ranged:18 |

This fight keeps going this route, we're all making new characters to join Ralina and Creeg...


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I think this is also a learning process, regarding the system and how it plays.

I can say right off the bat I might not be a huge fan of dying at 0hp, but for now I want to play it RAW.

I am interested in understanding the impact it has on how the game is played. Does it make players overly cautious, and the game uninteresting? Or maybe it brings up the need for more strategy? Or maybe even the need to hire retainers, and also of running away more often than we are used to?

I know I have also been 'pushing' a bit the action forward when people are unable to post, by botting them or delaying, but this is PbP, and if we don't keep the game moving, we all will quickly get disconnected from it, and the game will become an undead one, like so many around the boards.


Female N Cleric (Miner) 1 | HP: 7/7 |AC: 5 | STR: 13(+1) | DEX: 11(+0)| CON: 15(+1) | INT: 8(-1) | WIS: 12 (+0) | CHA: 14(+1) | Saves: | D: 11 | W: 12 |P: 14 |B: 16 |S: 15
"GM Obermind wrote:
In the meantime feel free to discuss OOC or even IC what your characters might want to do, or what they might be thinking, etc. I guess much like you might discuss if we were around the table? :D Feel free to ask me questions also.

I guess my initial question is do Creeg and I come in having been captured by the bandits earlier, thus meeting Al'Lan and Dobin, or do we find Kellum wounded in the wilderness, or our we still safely wide-eyed and innocent back at the keep?


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Ralina Biggins wrote:
"GM Obermind wrote:
In the meantime feel free to discuss OOC or even IC what your characters might want to do, or what they might be thinking, etc. I guess much like you might discuss if we were around the table? :D Feel free to ask me questions also.
I guess my initial question is do Creeg and I come in having been captured by the bandits earlier, thus meeting Al'Lan and Dobin, or do we find Kellum wounded in the wilderness, or our we still safely wide-eyed and innocent back at the keep?

Still mulling it over, but probably back at the Keep ;)


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We also have some housekeeping to do:

@Rizana and d'Reco - let me know if you are interested in continuing in the game, and what character you would like to play. I will provide you a pregen as before.

As for Draven's player, I will assume he will not be continuing the game, unless he tells me otherwise.

Regnar's player is also out, and now completely under DM control MUAHAHAHAHAHA! I will decide his fate later on. Who knows?

As for Al'Lan and Dobin, we will get to them shortly - just giving them a chance to post something if they are so inclined.

Grand Lodge

Male Aasimar Wizard 18/ Rogue2

Though I liked the halfling, I would like a Chance at an Elf. Though if someone else wants it. I may do a Dwarf.


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Seems no one has an opinion in favor or against Critzible, so let me know if/what you want to play, and I'll roll a character for you.

Grand Lodge

Male Aasimar Wizard 18/ Rogue2

I'd like to try an Elf


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Critzible wrote:
I'd like to try an Elf

There you go! I will leave the formatting to you ;)

Name:
Level: 1
Class: Elf
Background: Fisher
Appearance: athletic
Personality: mischievous, proud

Strength: 11
Dexterity: 9
Constitution: 14 +1
Intelligence: 10
Wisdom: 17 +2
Charisma: 11

HP: 7
AC: 5
THAC0 (melee): 19
THAC0 (ranged): 19
MOVEMENT: 90' (30')
XP: 0

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Spellcasting. Proficient with all weapons and armor. Detects
secret doors at 2-in-6. Hears subtle sounds at with 2-in-6.
Immune to paralysis. Infravision (60').

SPELLS PER DAY (BY LEVEL): 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0

SPELLBOOK:
protection from evil

EQUIPMENT:
10-foot pole, backpack, chain mail, crossbow (30 quarrels),
gold pieces (6), lantern (with 2 oil flasks), mace, mirror,
rations (7), small sack, spellbook, tinder box, wineskin

ENCUMBRANCE:
566 coins-weight


Elf lvl:1 HP 7/7 AC 5 Melee 19 Ranged 19 Spell 1:1

Introducing Drusilla

Gotta do a background but I am at work but here I am


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Nice!


Female N Cleric (Miner) 1 | HP: 7/7 |AC: 5 | STR: 13(+1) | DEX: 11(+0)| CON: 15(+1) | INT: 8(-1) | WIS: 12 (+0) | CHA: 14(+1) | Saves: | D: 11 | W: 12 |P: 14 |B: 16 |S: 15

I thought we were heading straight back to where the others were being held captive? Or near enough to observe what is happening there.

On the map, what are the red marks indicating?


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Good questions Ralina. Do the others know where they were being held captive?
As for the red marks, another good question.

I will let your adventuring companions answer both ;)


Female N Cleric (Miner) 1 | HP: 7/7 |AC: 5 | STR: 13(+1) | DEX: 11(+0)| CON: 15(+1) | INT: 8(-1) | WIS: 12 (+0) | CHA: 14(+1) | Saves: | D: 11 | W: 12 |P: 14 |B: 16 |S: 15

Here's my two cents for next steps. First, GM, it would be good to get confirmation on the time of day and distance. I'm actually assuming it is still fairly early in the morning. It took me forever to notice that the scale on the map is only 100 yards per square, so we're only covering at most a mile or so. Is that correct?

Assuming the distances haven't changed, it would only take about 20-30 minutes under the muddiest conditions to get from the keep to the edge of the stream if we are heading straight SE into the base of the 'U'. Given such a small area to cover, we could actually check on all three hill locations while in daylight if we want. The mist might be a blessing in this case because it will provide additional cover. If the mist clears, then we should assume there is a good chance of being observed unless we take precautions.

A couple of possible ideas:

1. Use the daylight and mist to quietly scout the three hills for signs of their camp. If we find it, hopefully we can do so without engaging unless the odds and terrain are in our favor. Assuming we find it, then fall back to set up our ambush.

2. If the mist lifts, then find some cover (the Tamarack stand further to the SE or just cut straight S or N into the forest.) Hold up and wait for evening to try our initial ambush attempt. We could also do this if the mist doesn't clear. Just set up the ambush and wait.

3. Use the daylight to turn back to the road and see what the other caravan ambush sites have to offer (I think someone said only the first had been investigated.) We might find a better trail to follow or some other bit of useful information.

Who can see in the dark, and who has ranged weapons? Based on profiles, it looks like:

Ralina: No (Sling)
Al'Lan: Yes (Melee only)
Drusilla: Yes (Crossbow)
Dobin: No (Melee only)
Kellum: No (Sling)

To help deal with the lack of night vision for a night ambush we could have torches/wood piles planted and soaked with oil readied to light. Maybe Dobin even has a couple pieces of oil soaked wood ready near the fire. The signal to attack would be him tossing one of those on the fire which would flare brightly, even potentially messing with the bandit's own vision for a round or two.

Al'Lan and Ralina could be hidden a little closer to provide melee support to Dobin by hitting their flanks or rear depending on the situation. Drusilla and Kellum a bit further to keep up ranged fire and cut off any retreat.

For regular watch order, Ralina, since she doesn't current have spells is happy to take a middle watche if anyone needs a full 8 hours for spells or something.


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We are using a slightly modified version of the movement rate in the original module = 3 squares per hour on the road / 1 square per hour outside the road. This assumes a simplified format of careful exploration, and attention to surroundings.

I had indicated the time of day here ;)

GM - Obermind wrote:
About three hours later (mid afternoon), they start feeling the ground becoming softer underfoot as they descend toward lower ground.

So mid-afternoon.


Female N Cleric (Miner) 1 | HP: 7/7 |AC: 5 | STR: 13(+1) | DEX: 11(+0)| CON: 15(+1) | INT: 8(-1) | WIS: 12 (+0) | CHA: 14(+1) | Saves: | D: 11 | W: 12 |P: 14 |B: 16 |S: 15

Uhhh...wow...that's super slow. I mean the average walking speed for an 80 year old is like 2.5 miles per hour (or basically crossing the entire map). Even accounting for exploration, rough terrain, and watching for ambush, healthy young adventurers should be able to keep up with their grandfather out for an afternoon stroll. But I think rather than short out my brain on this issue, I'll just pretend the squares are a mile or so in distance. :)

But based on those movement rates, then my options #1 and #3 are pretty much off the table.


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Yeah, there are a lot of discussions out there about the scale of the outdoor areas in B2.

I did some investigation, but in the end decided to stick with how it was written, for the full experience :)

Here is the original text, just because it is cool to share these things:

'The normal movement rote is 1 square per hour searching, 3 walking, 6 riding. Walking in the fens is at the rote of 1 square per hour; no riding is possible. Both walking and riding in the forest ore at the some speed, 2 squares per hour. Mounted movement along the road con be increased to 12 squares for one hour, but then the horse must rest for an hour within the next six turns, or it con be held at 8 squares per hour for 6 hours with a 2 hour rest thereafter'

For now, we are using a version derived of this - we will see what happens when you guys have mounts. One step at a time :)


Female N Cleric (Miner) 1 | HP: 7/7 |AC: 5 | STR: 13(+1) | DEX: 11(+0)| CON: 15(+1) | INT: 8(-1) | WIS: 12 (+0) | CHA: 14(+1) | Saves: | D: 11 | W: 12 |P: 14 |B: 16 |S: 15

Heh...yep. I don't think Gygax was much of a hiker or outdoorsman or maybe not really very good at math. I mean having a horse travel 1200 yards in an hour and then needing to take a rest. Utterly ridiculous. I mean there are 1760 yards in a mile, so you can't ride more than .75 mile in an hour without having to rest your poor exhausted horse for the following hour. So like 3 miles a day. Based on that, it would have taken a pioneer traveling the 2200 mile Oregon Trail over two years to complete the journey.

Like I said, I'll just not think about the actual distances. It is so completely silly that it really isn't worth getting upset about. I probably didn't even pick up on it the first and only time I played this module, but then I was probably 12 or 13 at the time. :)


Elf lvl:1 HP 7/7 AC 5 Melee 19 Ranged 19 Spell 1:1

Makes sense


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Ralina Biggins wrote:
Like I said, I'll just not think about the actual distances.

I am ok with that :)


Elf lvl:1 HP 7/7 AC 5 Melee 19 Ranged 19 Spell 1:1

So we should give al'Lan a sling


Human| Male| Fighter 1| HP: 6/9| AC 8| THAC0 18

I think that would be a great idea as he can see in the dark and would make an excellent ambusher from a distance, but remember that a bad shot can hit one of us in combat so be extra careful not to rush in before the ranged volleys have concluded :-)


Female N Cleric (Miner) 1 | HP: 7/7 |AC: 5 | STR: 13(+1) | DEX: 11(+0)| CON: 15(+1) | INT: 8(-1) | WIS: 12 (+0) | CHA: 14(+1) | Saves: | D: 11 | W: 12 |P: 14 |B: 16 |S: 15

He can have my sling. Ralina can stay close enough in to either light additional torches/fires if we need or just jump into the melee after a ranged volley or two.


Elf lvl:1 HP 7/7 AC 5 Melee 19 Ranged 19 Spell 1:1

So ranged focus on the ones in the dark, and the melee fighters keep to the light?

So al'Lan and Myseld positioned in say trees or on the outside thus firinf in ti the enemy with allies at our sides.


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Let me know when you have nailed down a plan. I will assume your group is discussing it for now ;)

Grand Lodge

Male Aasimar Wizard 18/ Rogue2

Just waitinf for some deesback


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So gang, it has been a week since you have arrived at this spot, and still a decision on how to proceed has not been done.

I am a bit in doubt how to proceed, as I am not interested in a PbP which will move at this pace.

I could railroad you a bit, but you would need at least a delineated plan, so that after the railroad we are not discussing stuff like 'oh but I gave him a sling' or 'oh but I would keep watch so and so'

Also a lot has been said - some things in the form of suggestions, and very few as decisive actions.

So I was thinking we should perhaps have a 'Caller' - you know, as in the old days. One of you will be responsible to tell me what the plan is, and we'll go with that. How does it sound?

Of course the next question is - who wants to be The Caller? :)


Female N Cleric (Miner) 1 | HP: 7/7 |AC: 5 | STR: 13(+1) | DEX: 11(+0)| CON: 15(+1) | INT: 8(-1) | WIS: 12 (+0) | CHA: 14(+1) | Saves: | D: 11 | W: 12 |P: 14 |B: 16 |S: 15

Well, I'm not sure I want any kind of 'caller' role, but it seems like we settled on the ambush idea. Find a suitable dry ground spot, create some stuffed dummies under the cover of darkness, have a fire going that Dobin maintains while the others hide nearby. Drusilla and Al'Lan set up to use ranged attacks. Kellum and Ralina hidden closer in (less than one move) and ready to rush in quick for melee in support of Dobin after one or two ranged volleys depending on the circumstances. Some preset torches or oil soaked firewood piles to be lit if extra light is needed.


Human| Male| Fighter 1| HP: 6/9| AC 8| THAC0 18

The fire is a good idea...Dobin can be ready to set them alight if/when the bandits showup


Thief Lvl 1 | HP 3/3| AC 6 | Thac0 Melee: 18 Ranged:18 |

Kallum [not Kellum ;)] would be a very poor choice for the "caller". I'm fine with hiding at short range, whether or not he would rush into melee remains to be seen based on how many opponents we have. (Kallum has a whopping 3 HP, so any hit at all is pretty much instant death).


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Ralina Biggins wrote:
Well, I'm not sure I want any kind of 'caller' role, but it seems like we settled on the ambush idea. Find a suitable dry ground spot, create some stuffed dummies under the cover of darkness, have a fire going that Dobin maintains while the others hide nearby. Drusilla and Al'Lan set up to use ranged attacks. Kellum and Ralina hidden closer in (less than one move) and ready to rush in quick for melee in support of Dobin after one or two ranged volleys depending on the circumstances. Some preset torches or oil soaked firewood piles to be lit if extra light is needed.

That is a lot of prep work in swampy terrain, but I do not want to delay us any further. Post incoming.

P.S. Let me know which ones of you have oil, and how many of those you are spending, and please mark them off. FYI, the firewood is wet, because everything is wet in this swampy area.


Thief Lvl 1 | HP 3/3| AC 6 | Thac0 Melee: 18 Ranged:18 |

I'll use one of my flasks of oil.


Female N Cleric (Miner) 1 | HP: 7/7 |AC: 5 | STR: 13(+1) | DEX: 11(+0)| CON: 15(+1) | INT: 8(-1) | WIS: 12 (+0) | CHA: 14(+1) | Saves: | D: 11 | W: 12 |P: 14 |B: 16 |S: 15

Ralina will use a flask of oil.

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