Well not wishing to hit one of his allies with the bolt, Dobin will drop the crossbow and ready the other weapons. From what you have said he should still get an attack this round against the ogre so I will go ahead and do that...it will be next round that he will have his shield readied for defense.
Yep, no worries. I moved you. What do you mean by 'achieve anything'?
And I disagree on the lack of granularity of the map :P
Yep, no worries. I moved you. What do you mean by 'achieve anything'?
And I disagree on the lack of granularity of the map :P
Thanks for moving me.
The problem is that I was under the impression that the map is 10’ squares, and it appears to be the case. The lack of granularity comes from the inability to clearly move within this frame. Otherwise I have to be specific about which of the four spaces of the 10 square I am in, and which of the possible 5’ participles of various 10’ squares I can reach. Amhal can now move to the (takes deep breath) 5’ portion that is in the SouthWest corner of the 10’ spaces to his East, the 5’ portion that is in the NorthWest corner of the 10’ space to his South East, and possibly, if diagonal movement is allowed, the 5’ portion that is in the SouthWest corner of the 10’ space to his South East.
But at the time, we were all higgledy piggledy occupying 10’ spaces, and I didn’t see how I could move to a different 10’ space with a 5’ step. Thus moving wouldn’t appear to achieve anything, as I couldn’t see the granularity needed on a 10’ square map to have the capability to step 5’.
On second thought, you know what? Lets remove the 5' step completely - I think it is only adding 'unnecessary' complexity. Let's keep it simple, unless we simply find we cannot.
Let's leave the 5' steps for my other project - running a PF1e Core Only game ;)
Thanks for moving me.
The problem is that I was under the impression that the map is 10’ squares, and it appears to be the case. The lack of granularity comes from the inability to clearly move within this frame. Otherwise I have to be specific about which of the four spaces of the 10 square I am in, and which of the possible 5’ participles of various 10’ squares I can reach. Amhal can now move to the (takes deep breath) 5’ portion that is in the SouthWest corner of the 10’ spaces to his East, the 5’ portion that is in the NorthWest corner of the 10’ space to his South East, and possibly, if diagonal movement is allowed, the 5’ portion that is in the SouthWest corner of the 10’ space to his South East.
But at the time, we were all higgledy piggledy occupying 10’ spaces, and I didn’t see how I could move to a different 10’ space with a 5’ step. Thus moving wouldn’t appear to achieve anything, as I couldn’t see the granularity needed on a 10’ square map to have the capability to step 5’.
Got it.
But that is also why we are here, right? To experience the weirdness and uniqueness of the 'olden' D&D game systems, products, classic adventures, NPCs, etc.
I hope you all do not see the 'limitations' of the rules, or the increased level of some challenges, the poor quality of some maps, the quirkiness of some situations, as an hassle, but instead as an experience.
I also understand it can feel frustrating playing the game under a 'simpler' lens after we have been playing PF and other systems for so many years, and it is perfectly fine to say 'this is not for me'. But these systems did have something to them - some of their quirks and mechanics can generate interesting results, and part of this whole idea is to explore those.
We are in an adaptation phase, but at the end of the day, the game IS mechanically simple, so I am hoping it will leave us more room for ADVENTURING!
Well, when you remove the 5’ step, which wasn’t a part of the rules Keep on the Borderlands was used for in, there is no longer a problem with the map. All BECMI movement is in 10’s. I don’t think there is an issue with the quality of the map at all.
I’m happy with things as they are.
I'm operating under the assumption that we could try to hole up within the ogre's cave for the night. Given it is almost night, it seems doubtful that we can outrun any pursuit and this seems easier to defend than an exposed campsite in the open.
That seems…wise. Unfortunately Amhal…isn’t and events are also…developing.
@GMO - timing here is likely pretty critical
- if the goblins emerge at the cave entrance before Drusilla, Regnar and Finn arrive, Amhal will have stayed in the cave opening to ensure they can retreat unmolested.
- if the goblins are yet to arrive when Amhal finds out Ralina has not emerged, he will head toward the ogre lair.
The goblins have not emerged from the cave entrance yet, so you are free to head to the ogre's lair.
@Ralina - Hey Tareth, sorry for the demise of Ralina. I liked that character.
But the road goes on! Let me know if you would like to create another character, and we'll take it from there.
Hey gang, unfortunately I have some good/bad news.
Work has picked up quite a lot with some extra added responsibilities, so I will have to put this one on hold.
Will revisit the thread in a few weeks, and try to make a final decision by then.
Apologies for the sudden interruption, but there is no way around it.
Talk again soon!
Well, Amhal isn’t in any particular rush to do much, apart from live. But with Ralina dead/gone, Amhal out and the rest of the group effectively trapped, I’m going to bow out of this one!
Thanks for all the work of setting up and running the game GMO!
Understood Amhar - thank you for joining!