Sorry everyone; everyone now where they want to be?
Salron? We haven't heard from you yet, I don't think....
OK, I'm trying to FINALLY report this sucker, BUT, I still need a few things from you:
- an E-mail address (PM me if you don't want to bare it to the world)
and
- Were any of you spending a Replay?
Also, anyone have any idea what happened to Salron? I sent him a PM a few days ago now, no reply yet....
Got it; since I also need to know if I should be putting him on the report at all, I'll send Salron 1 more PM; how much longer should I give him before I just forget he was ever here?
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It's been two weeks since combat started and ten days since the last post in gameplay. Shall we just assume that Salron isn't there for this encounter and move on?
Also (earlier) Rosla would take and put on the Armbands of the Brawler if noone else wants them.
It's been two weeks since combat started and ten days since the last post in gameplay. Shall we just assume that Salron isn't there for this encounter and move on?*push*
Yes, I am very sorry for my neglect; I've not been feeling well, and momentum-loss can be a b$$*@.
Tempestas slashes at it again. ((Is he actually in flank? I'm assuming not since Rosla is on a table, it's on the bar and Tempestas is on the floor)
Good point; I'll rule not...which does mean you could move a step or two if you wanted to form a flank with someone else...?
Uh, OK, I can take it back (not that it'll make any difference at the moment).
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Sorry for me challenging your ruling, GM. (I just realized that I was a little blunt. I hope I did not come across as unfriendly...)
But there's a reason for it:
Uh, OK, I can take it back (not that it'll make any difference at the moment).
Actually, it does. In order to be able to make a sneak attack Rosla needed the flank with Tempestas.
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Thanks! I saw that quite a few elves and half-elves use an Elven Curve Blade. It is a good weapon... but I wanted her to fight with two smaller weapons. I figured: more attacks equals more sneak attacks.
- three levels of uRogue for Dex to attack AND damage,
- two levels of Slayer for Martial Weapon Proficiency, more BAB, Slayer talent (for Ranger Combat Style: TWF)
- a few levels of Fighter (Weapon Master) for more BAB, Fighter Weapon Training, bonus feats (Canny Tumble and Circling Mongoose have quite the feat tax), access to Weapon Specialization
- and one level of Spiritualist (Exciter) for more utility and defense (mostly to boost her poor will saves).
Lots of high damage attacks with a pair of elven leaf blades (exotic light weapons) with a crit range of 18-20/x2 (later 15-20/x2 from Improved Critical) and +2 to crit confirmation rolls... and on top of that +2 from a trait (and later another +4 from Critical Focus makes it a total +8 bonus on crit confirmation rolls).
Imagine a small elven chick with a bad attitude, two sharp leafblades and a very strong dedication to distruction... ^_^
Sorry for me challenging your ruling, GM. (I just realized that I was a little blunt. I hope I did not come across as unfriendly...)
Please, please, don't think of it (or me) like that.
I'm a cat-person; I loathe hierarchy, and I'm convinced a lot of the "social sensitivity" business is Versailles warmed over.Don't get started on anyone who tries to pull that shit over a GAME.
My only problem at the moment is fatigue.
Actually, it does. In order to be able to make a sneak attack Rosla needed the flank with Tempestas.
I meant "the moment" as in Tempestas's roll (I know it's a hard term to quantify - but technically, whatever you do next wouldn't even be in the same 6-second span!).
Walks with Giants, would you mind showing me your color spray spread? At present, it appears to me like you may be getting Tempestas as well.
Oh I see; well-executed!
Sorry for the latest delay, I was feeling unwell over the weekend, and yesterday was unusually busy for me.
...Nor to Walks with Giants, it would seem!!!
Unless you or someone else can pull a miracle out of your keister(s) (or can point out some way I screwed up), like a forced-reroll or some crit-protection mechanism, it would appear that you have the honor of being my first-ever player-kill as a DM.
I will wait for everyone to weigh in before continuing.
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Hm... which subtier did you use for this encounter? That creature seem to be very dangerous for tier 1-2...
There are only 4 players left.
But even when we were still 5 we had an APL of 2.4 (rounds down to 2, see below) = low tier.
And even if it rounded up to 3 I doubt we would vote to play up as there is not much benefit to do so (maybe the out-of-tier gold for the level 2 characters). Was the subtier discussed? I do not remember...
In order to determine which subtier a mixed-level group of PCs must play in, calculate the group’s Average Party Level (APL). APL = sum of character levels/number of characters Divide the total number of character levels by the number of characters in the party, rounding to the nearest whole number. If the result of the Average Party Level calculation ends with 0.5, the players should decide whether to round up or down. The selection of pregenerated characters might affect the APL. In some cases, there is one pregenerated character level that is clearly more fitting to the PCs’ levels, such as when all or most of the PCs fall in the same subtier. In corner cases, the GM should choose the level of pregenerated characters to provide a fun and fair experience for her table.
Scenarios in Seasons 0 through 3 were designed for four characters. For these scenarios, if the APL is between subtiers, a party of six or seven characters must play the higher subtier. Parties with four or five characters must play the lower subtier. Starting with Season 4, scenarios were designed for six characters and contained methods to adjust for tables with four players. When the APL of a table is between two subtiers (like APL 3 for a Tier 1–5 scenario), a party of four characters must play the lower tier without any adjustments for party size. A party of five to seven characters whose APL falls between two subtiers must play the higher tier with the four-character adjustments found throughout the scenario. In the fringe case where there are no PCs that are high enough level to have reached the subtier level (such as a party of six 3rd-level characters), the group can decide to play the lower subtier.
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I was curious and looked it up. The 4 player adjustment (our enemy would be sickened) would have massively changed the combat:
Cara wouldn't have become unconscious (still standing at 0 HP) and therefore still the nearest target (favored enemy). She would have healed herself - and also the crit wouldn't confirm against her higher AC.
And Rosla would (maybe) get to make an AoO as the sickened enemy's acrobatics roll would be below her CMD.
Seems I forgot that I do need to use a replay. *facepalm*
I played this scenario in 2018 with my -1...
It's long-since been reported; I'll see if I can correct that.
1d8+10 is bad enough. It does seem OP for level 1-2 to me too.
Keep in mind it's worse against Humans (sometimes there are none in the party, as opposed to two!), and since Power Attack reduces its accuracy, the Scenario expects that to cause enough misses that it specifically bothers to say the creature stops using it if it misses too often (instead it's been pretty lucky).
I was curious and looked it up. The 4 player adjustment (our enemy would be sickened) would have massively changed the combat:
Son of a shit, how did I overlook that?!? Thank you!
I'll get a substantial retcon up when I can.
Also, why did you use a critical multiplyer of x3 for claws (natural weapons)?
I thought natural weapons had crit 20/x2?
They do; I didn't....OH. I screwed up and kept the original damage roll after seeing it was a crit.
For the record, I roll critical hits as a single big damage roll, I don't just add on extra dice - so if you see something like that there, that's probably a mistake.
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Moving to Discussion thread...
And WwG has the fey foundling feat, so Cara healed him by 2 hp more.
Might be the difference between life and death...
I rarely play this character and totally forgot about that in spite of the fact that I remember reviewing the character and spotting the feat. It looks like I may get a little more practice with the character after all :)
Nothing like a player death to get folks micro analyzing things.
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If Cara is allowed a 5-foot-step, it would be great if she moved (1 square west or northwest) to allow Rosla get into a flanking position - otherwise, her damage output will be poor.
Tempestas didn't use a flanking bonus for his attacks, so you're free to reposition.
EDIT: After re-reading the GM's retcon post, I finally noticed that Cara is unconscious. So Rosla can step into her square, right?
EDIT: After re-reading the GM's retcon post, I finally noticed that Cara is unconscious. So Rosla can step into her square, right?
Why, so you could!
Very very sorry, I've been depressed.
That said, it looks to me like the ball is presently still in your court, adventurers.
Well it's not like not doing this actively helps me in any way; I just couldn't pull myself together enough to do it.
..this is just a game...
AGAIN, very sorry for the delay...but I have to say, this is not exactly what I expected to return to.
I'm afraid going to need a bit more time to figure out how Ilchok's going to react....
Piss on a plate...SORRY, everyone, for some reason I was not seeing updates in Gameplay this week!
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There are 3 Kinds of People:Well, I - the player - would certainly react more like Cara.
However, Rosla is a very different kind of person (barely PFS legal: CN and worships an evil god), so... *shrugs*
It now occurs to me that "Hot Barely-PFS-Legal Action" should be a party we arrange to run an adventure or 2 with one of these days; Limbo knows I've got a few characters fit for it.
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And what would the party make up be for that?
A curious GM wants to know.
I'd have to see what a sufficient number of players beyond kaervek78 and myself can offer to know that, now wouldn't I?
That said, I know we'd be talking about characters who:
- are non-Good
- worship Evil deities and/or are otherwise openly affiliated with Evil entities/organizations
- have class Archetypes/feats/prestige classes of a "Geez, I'm surprised that's legal!" nature (including things that were legal and got to be "grandfathered" after they were banned)
- maybe took some "Evil" Boons somewhere along the way (like the ones that demand an atonement, or THAT ONE GUY IN ALL THE UNIVERSE I'd heard about who received a unique "you get to take the Assassin prestige-class" Boon years and years ago, though I'm guessing he's not here)
So...I am not sure what we are waiting for at the moment. Should the party take a vote on Ilchok's fate? Some other means of choosing?
How's everyone's connection been? I know everything went down for maintenance a few days ago, how's it been since then?
I know of a certain... lady oracle that worships Zon-Kuthon.
Whom would that be? She doesn't appear to be on your roster....