Wrath of the Righteous PF2

Game Master Ira kroll

I would like to introduce a new house rule:

I've had one character express an interest in retraining.

Retraining generally takes a week of downtime. And you have to have found someone to pay to help you retrain. In some Adventure Paths (APs) there is enough downtime to actually make this viable (I'm looking at you, KingMaker, which had months of downtime). I'm not really seeing enough downtime in Wrath of the Righteous (WotR) to make this work.

Here is what I propose:

The PC makes a declaration to the GM/table that they plan to retrain out of X and retrain into Y.

Immediately, they lose X.

After a week of in-game time, they make a skill check (generally the DC of which is the Hard DC for the level of Y):

Critical Success: They can immediately begin using Y with no penalties
Success: They can immediately begin using Y, but with a -2 Retraining penalty related to using Y. This penalty goes away after one week of in-game time.
Failure: You still have lost X, and can immediately start a new week of training into Y
Critical Failure: You still have lost X, and must wait an in-game week before restarting training into Y.

For instance, if Harry the level 8 Rogue wanted to retrain out of a general feat taken at level 3 and replace it with a level 2 feat, then the DC would be 18 (16 for level 2 and +2 for Hard DC). If instead it was being replaced by a level 7 feat, the DC would be 25.

If Harry's feat was a Thievery-related feat, then the applicable skill would be Thievery. But, if the feat was related to something else (let's say Toughness), then the applicable skill would be different (in Toughness' case, it would be Fortitude). Non-obvious applicable skills would have to be discussed with the GM.

Let me know what you think!

Fine by me. Would hero points be available for these rolls?

I would be find with that, although not too keen of the Success penalty if Hard DC.

I currently do not have any retraining ideas, so I can say neither for or against

I'm okay with this. In my games, I generally allow something to be retrained for free when you level up, but this system is workable.

Not to give away how old I am, but, I remember having to go on quests to find a mentor and collect enough gold just to level up.

While I appreciate that sentimentality as I started with the Basic set, I have found that those types of "Classic" troupes are better suited for Table Top.

PbP already has a difficult time of staying it's momentum.

Nostalgia is precious in any event. I appreciate the trip down memory lane...lol.

Not to give away how old I am, but, I remember having to go on quests to find a mentor and collect enough gold just to level up.

We stopped this when we had a long adventure underground. The survivors got four levels a at once.

So. Apparently I've been doing Archetypes wrong! I might need to rebuild my character sheet a little with permission (replace Hit the Dirt! with a general feat)

No problem. Every day can be a learning experience...

HEAL SPELL: needing clarification. The spell can still be cast on SELF with 2-actions, correct? Meaning thatQ would receive the 16 bonus HP in addition to whatever else he rolled?

PFS Standard

HealSpell 1
Healing Manipulate Vitality
Source Player Core pg. 335 2.0
Traditions divine, primal
Cast [one-action] to [three-actions]
Range varies; Targets 1 willing living creature or 1 undead creature

You channel vital energy to heal the living or damage the undead. If the target is a willing living creature, you restore 1d8 Hit Points. If the target is undead, you deal that amount of vitality damage to it, and it gets a basic Fortitude save. The number of actions you spend when Casting this Spell determines its targets, range, area, and other parameters.

[one-action] The spell has a range of touch.

[two-actions] (concentrate) The spell has a range of 30 feet. If you're healing a living creature, increase the Hit Points restored by 8.

[three-actions] (concentrate) You disperse vital energy in a 30-foot emanation. This targets all living and undead creatures in the burst.

Heightened (+1) The amount of healing or damage increases by 1d8, and the extra healing for the 2-action version increases by 8.

As long as you are a willing living creature, you can cast on self.

2d8 + 16 for a heightened (rank 2) one, yep.

Please use one of those actions to move me and another to attack the black vulture. That will do.

Check!

I will be away Tuesday and Wednesday the 3rd and 4th of September.

Question: are we close to 4th Level or should Qafa suggest some downtime so that he can pray for Cleanse Affliction? I'm a little concern about Virgil's disease situation.

I expect that we have to get the NPCs sorted and get enough of the city orderly before we level.

Speaking of leveling, my intent is not to focus on medicine skill and feats. But I can do this if nobody else wants to. I won't be going into the medic archetype because kineticists can't afford to lose class feats.

I expect that we have to get the NPCs sorted and get enough of the city orderly before we level.

Speaking of leveling, my intent is not to focus on medicine skill and feats. But I can do this if nobody else wants to. I won't be going into the medic archetype because kineticists can't afford to lose class feats.

Obahi, the field field medic background character spending 4 levels worth of feats on nothing but medicine: Am I a joke to you?

Avenger of the Green wrote:

I expect that we have to get the NPCs sorted and get enough of the city orderly before we level.

Speaking of leveling, my intent is not to focus on medicine skill and feats. But I can do this if nobody else wants to. I won't be going into the medic archetype because kineticists can't afford to lose class feats.

Obahi, the field field medic background character spending 4 levels worth of feats on nothing but medicine: Am I a joke to you?

LOL - never!

Assuming that you agree on finding a place for the night. Is this !!before!! healing? Or after?

It's an 8 hr downtime activity, so preferably after.

Avenger of the Green wrote:

I expect that we have to get the NPCs sorted and get enough of the city orderly before we level.

Speaking of leveling, my intent is not to focus on medicine skill and feats. But I can do this if nobody else wants to. I won't be going into the medic archetype because kineticists can't afford to lose class feats.

Obahi, the field field medic background character spending 4 levels worth of feats on nothing but medicine: Am I a joke to you?

Lol this got a good laugh out of me

Avenger of the Green wrote:

I expect that we have to get the NPCs sorted and get enough of the city orderly before we level.

Speaking of leveling, my intent is not to focus on medicine skill and feats. But I can do this if nobody else wants to. I won't be going into the medic archetype because kineticists can't afford to lose class feats.

Obahi, the field field medic background character spending 4 levels worth of feats on nothing but medicine: Am I a joke to you?

I thought you were going to handle it, but I didn't want to assume that you were taking care of it. I'm glad to be backup.

and I signed up as the divine caster, so I wanted to make sure that we have a magical means of addressing some of these issues. I'm not a fan of demons, but I still don't think we should puke on them

Wait so who should we be puking on? The innocent children?

I think the goal is to heal the disease, and not be puking at all?

I think the goal is to heal the disease, and not be puking at all?

You know, I agree, but to Perla's point, it's probably best for us to set policy as a team, just to be sure we're all on the same page with regards to who we puke on. I think it's a great suggestion and I totally second the motion.

Qafa will make sure that he casts Presitidigation on anyone whose shoes accidently become soiled.

Virgil would agree but he is afraid to open his mouth....

How 'bout a green thumbs up!

So poll says we like on the innocent kids. The none innocent ones get a pass. Can someone detect evil on every kid to make sure before we puke?

Remaster! No such thing :3

Detecting evil is easy, just ask if they are evil ! if they say no, you know they are lying because no evil person would admit it, and if they say yes you know they are likely so evil they've come full circle and have accepted their evilness!

Hah. Okay, Torquemada, calm down.

Say that in character so it will cure Virgil...lol.

I take it we're resting?

Well, you are. I'm pulling an overnight nurse shift.

At least that's the plan.

Yeah, I figured that was the plan

We ust need to find a place with a few less dead vultures.

Note that Obahi would probably also be fatigued die to the ward duty overnight.

Note that Obahi would probably also be fatigued die to the ward duty overnight.

Yeah sorry team, I honestly don't know what we are racing towards and why it is worth more to race there with a man down than it is to invest 8 fake hours in letting someone train out a spell to heal the guy. Sorry. Don't get it. I'm sure it's just me, but we have a way to be 100% and for some reason we aren't doing it. Sorry. Just don't get that. TBH, even spending the additional time to get the guy better normally isn't happening, and I don't get that either. Sorry.

Note that Obahi would probably also be fatigued die to the ward duty overnight.

My assumption is overnite allows both rest and medical attention. The medical attention does not seem, to me, to require constant attention throughout the entire 8 hours, but some attention for the 8 hours.

YMMV.

I'm just moving it along...

The Magus does Recharge his Spell strike and ...
Melee Earthbreaker, spell strike, Gouging claw, Sickened 1: 1d20 + 9 - 1 ⇒ (7) + 9 - 1 = 151d10 + 3 + 2d6 + 1 - 1 ⇒ (2) + 3 + (2, 1) + 1 - 1 = 8 Traits Shove, +2 persistent bleed

Eyes narrowing as more vultures approach, "I'm getting tired of all these mother fu. . ." he cuts off the rest of his sentence with a growl and bark of magic.

You beat me to it. Though given how often they have attacked Obahi, I would have used "monk-chunking".

Hey all, I am leaving for the weekend. I probably won't be available until late Sunday, potentially Monday. Just a heads up.

Note the recovery check also happens on your next turn, and the downed PC should be moved in initiative to a slot AFTER the creature or effect that caused the damage that made the PC go unconscious.

I am watching the thread. Just waiting for Solras' actions to determine the situation on my turn.

Is this considered difficult terrain, GM?

The downed PC is moved to an initiative position "directly before" the creature or effect.

Yes, difficult terrain.

Yeah, sorry. In my head, I was thinking the other way around. Anyway... Gonna post.

Solras already made the turn. One strike, though. Not sure about other actions.

D'oh!

I will be away Thursday through Saturday.

Perla, quick question. I don't think I recall you using Hunt Prey ever.

Is there a reason?

It would reduce your multiple attack penalty from -5 to -3 per attack.

For example, in the most recent series of attacks, you had

to hit: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (3) + 9 = 12

to damage: 1d8 ⇒ 3
to hit: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (11) + 4 = 15
to damage: 1d8 ⇒ 4
to hit: 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (16) - 1 = 15
to damage: 1d8 ⇒ 4

Instead, it would be

to hit: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (3) + 9 = 12

to damage: 1d8 ⇒ 3
to hit: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (11) + 9 - 3 = 17
to damage: 1d8 ⇒ 4
to hit: 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (16) + 9 - 6 = 19
to damage: 1d8 ⇒ 4

You also do have Hunted Shot to balance out the action economy of Hunt Prey, or to save an action when firing to command your minion to make two actions.

I'm curious whether there is a roleplay reason for you not using the ranger abilities, or what's happening here?