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Boop! I still got no clue what I want to play, but the one class I've been looking into is the bard. Nothing definite, so do post what you (the reader!) want to play and if necessary, I'll pick a class that can fill a hole in ze party. Not that I expect that to be the case with 6 players :)
Bards look fun to play! (As does, well, pretty much everything else)
My first impression though is that a cleric/healbot is going to be an indispensable member of any adventuring party that actually wants to survive. But this may be a residual hangover on my part from the godsawful playtest.
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An anguished growl sounds as if from a great distance...
From what I've read and my experience in the playtest, buffers are a little trickier to play now. They've reduced the different types of bonuses so it becomes a little more work to avoid bonuses that don't stack.
I don't have an alias up yet but I'm planning on playing a goblin rogue, just to get that out there.
Hey y’all! Still working on a concept, but since I’m almost exclusively playing casters and rogues in other games, I think I want to break type and play a fighter.
@Solicitor - great. NOW look what you did.
@Pril - agreed. Bless/Inspire courage don't seem to stack, for example. Also, I'm not convinced that debuffing is a great tactic either, now: some of the saves listed in the new bestiary look extremely high.
@Lobster - sounds good! I was pretty sceptical about making goblins into PCs so I am interested to see how you do it. I'm thinking Elf Paladin but have yet to make an alias or finalise a decision. (Full disclosure: I get easily distracted by the latest shiny thing so what comes out may be neither elf nor paladin)
EDIT @rutaskadis - hello! Are you thinking ranged fighter, or melee?
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"Greetings my children, may the light of the Gods shine on you all."
I'll cover healing for this one - I don't know the system at all though since I haven't looked at it since the timewedonotname.
Now, help me out here. What church is Cardinal Borgia most likely a part of? I've only ever played him in historical games before - so which PF god is most like Jesu Christu?
@Wandering Wastrel - melee, though after looking over the other characters, I see we have a mostly martial party! I’ve been toying with the idea of a wizard as well, but am still weighing my options.
@Lucius - Iomedae, maybe Sarenrae?
Now, help me out here. What church is Cardinal Borgia most likely a part of? I've only ever played him in historical games before - so which PF god is most like Jesu Christu?
Probably Sarenrae or Shelyn.
I'd say Sarenrae fits the compassion, humanity, and forgiveness part. Abadar might fit the less spiritual and more material minded types who wish to institutionalize laws, piety, and righteousness?
And Rutaskadis (god, that sounds Lithuanian), I'm fine with playing an arcane type. Bard, wizard or sorcerer - they're all dandy to me. Do play what strikes your fancy :D
Catholic church?
Abadar. No question. Heck, the picture of the Abadian priest even looks like a bishop, right down to the mitre!
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Yeah, I'm going for the classic cardinal - so concerned with canon lore and spreading the faith, but no stranger to intrigue and perhaps getting things done in a way that's not quite by the book...
Iomedae is too much on the fighting side I think.
Shelyn has the wrong focus...
Either Sarenrae or Abadar - the crossbow would be a better weapon for him, but what's more useful Medicine or Society? I feel like I want society but I can see Sarenrae being more useful (battle spells etc). Especially since I'll be a cloistered cleric rather than a warpriest.
Pril is Trained in Medicine, if you really want to take Society.
The deadly simplicity feat will make your crossbow a d10 damage weapon. Land a crit with that and nobody will question your combat utility :-)
With six characters, it wouldn't be bad to have a heal-bot. Granted, not as much fun to play, but ...
And Rutaskadis (god, that sounds Lithuanian), I'm fine with playing an arcane type. Bard, wizard or sorcerer - they're all dandy to me. Do play what strikes your fancy :D
You're pretty close! It's been my online handle for many years, after the Latvian witch queen from His Dark Materials.
I'm going with a melee fighter, though I might take the Sorcerer archetype later on if I just can't resist being a caster. Working on the build now.
You're pretty close! It's been my online handle for many years, after the Latvian witch queen from His Dark Materials.
Wow. It's been a long time since I've read those.
So we have
Gnome monk
Goblin rogue
Human cleric (Abadar)
Fighter (melee)
Elf(?) Paladin(??)
Hmm. We could do with some arcane/ranged support. Maybe Elf Wizard?
Sorry, I can't count! Solicitor, I completely forgot to list you, although your entry would probably read ?????
I'm going to sit down with the rules tomorrow and plow through 'em. I'll be hosting a one-shot game on Friday for a couple of friends so one way or another, I'll need to know the basics.
And I'll sink my teeth into something arcane. Perhaps I'll find something neat that will break the mold. Yet another haughty elven invoker with a love for fireballs is not what these forums need.
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So I'm still going back and forth tryna decide between the names Gull Peeper (my wife's suggestion) and Geffry (hard g as in Goblin, not a soft g like in Geoffrey), but I'm taking the Acrobat background and Thief racket. Additionally, I'm deciding between the Razortooth and Unbreakable goblin subtypes.
Background is pretty simple, like two years ago I was part of a circus either visiting Breachhill or somewhere nearby, my acrobat partner (Null Peeper or Geena, hard G) and I got really drunk and decided to live here forever, but in the morning they didn't remember and ran back to the circus, expecting me to follow, and regardless of my intentions, I did remember but woke too late to actually make a decision- the circus had left without me.
We performed a double act: I did amazing feats of acrobatics and they picked everyone's pockets, but these days, I'm left to do both tasks, and in the intervening years I have become not very good at either.
I'm answering the Call to Adventure to try and reclaim my life for myself, and stop living in the shadow of my circus days.
I'm leaning toward the Razortooth goblin subtype so I could two handed finesse attack while leaving a hand free to thieve and steal.
Ugh, I wish I was only trying to decide on a name...
Ok, given the number of melee types I'm thinking of shelving the elf paladin and going ranger instead, maybe a veteran of the Goblinblood Wars who settled in Breachill.
Nonhuman for sure, possibly a gnome or halfling.
I'm trying to put together a wizard, but oh my, the spells are different.
Nonhuman for sure, possibly a gnome or halfling.
Oooo... do tell? ;)
I'm trying to put together a wizard, but oh my, the spells are different.
Yeah, I haven't done a spell-for-spell comparison, but many of them are very different.
Have to confess I haven't looked at the spells much, beyond admiring the shiny new scalable cantrips!
Probably going to stick with elf ranger, for now.
Probably going to stick with elf ranger, for now.
Awww... You're no fun. ;P
Remember me making fun of the invoker? Well, you see ... as a first-level wizard, you're going to be using invocation spells :'D
I rolled up an abjurer who is specializing in designing, building and maintaining castles and forts. He's got mad stonemasonry skills. Oh yes.
OK, I have a name for my elf ranger.
Actually, I have several names. I was reading up on the new elf lore, or maybe it was there all along and I missed it, which says that "An elf keeps their personal name secret among their family, while giving a nickname when meeting other people. This nickname can change over time, due to events in the elf’s life or even on a whim. A single elf might be known by many names by associates of different ages and regions."
So this got me thinking - he has a first family name, and must have chosen another one reasonably quickly for the local community to know him by. Then there's a name for when he left to go exploring the world and got involved in the Goblinblood Wars, and then another name when he settled down in Breachill.
...so without further ado, I present Allandír Pelanor Wyvaron Beltirion Dinúvriel.
(the "ll" in the first name is pronounced like the Welsh form, with a "kl" or a "hl" sound)
Dinúvriel is what humans would call a surname. Beltirion is the name only his parents and immediate family know him by, and Wyvaron is the name he chose for himself as a child/adolescent (he's slightly embarrassed by this now and no longer uses it). The soldiers he fought alongside in the Goblinblood Wars know him as Pelanor.
Allandír is the respected artisan and woodworker who has been happily settled in Breachill for most of the last two decades, ever since the Goblinblood Wars ended.
Presenting Nell, a half-elf who's never left Breachill, but dreams of traveling the world and publishing stories about the adventurers she meets.
...and I have no idea why I posted just the link, rather than posting directly. Clearly I was thinking of this as a recruitment thread :/
@Solicitor: the abjuration focus powers look worth the price of admission alone. I look forward to seeing what you come up with :)
@Nell: I love the idea of being dishwasher and "occasional" bouncer, as well as the 'small town/big dreams' vibe - assuming she can get past what clearly seems to be a highly-developed sense of responsibility!
@Lobster: "Gull Peeper" is wonderfully surreal - as is the idea of biting someone while rifling through their pocketses :D
Really looking forward to this, it looks as though we have a great group!
In terms of advancement, I'm currently planning to go 'switch-hitter' - take a bunch of the archery feats plus quick draw and double slice to make anything that tries to engage him in melee seriously regret it.
I'm slightly tempted by the animal companion option, if only to give the rules a test-drive, but it's a lot of feats to make them optimal. Oh well. We shall see.
It certainly doesn't look like we'll be lacking for melee types.
And I must say, maybe it's just me, but that's a creepy looking avatar, Allandír. Something you want to tell us? ;)
What can I say? I enjoy subverting expectations.
(This was going to be my Elf Paladin's avatar, but that will have to wait for another time. As you say, we have enough melee types already.)
So that's two votes for Gull Peeper, which just about makes that official. I should have my sheet finished tonight or tomorrow.
The first gameplay post is up! You may start posting at your leisure!
Clearly, this guy is a work in progress. I will need to come up with a name and work out his background, but everything but his gear is pretty much in order. In the word document on my pc, that is.
I'll try to come up with a neat stat block that's PF2 appropriate as well.
And last but not least, if you got any spell suggestions - do tell! Right now, I'll be picking up Mage Armor, Gust of Wind and Magic Weapon.
Added a family section to Nell's profile, since I imagine that's where most of her potential for personal drama and story hooks will come from (at least at first). ;)
Does anyone wanna have some backstory ties? Gull Peeper and I already discussed ours; I imagine that other Breachill locals might know Nell or each other, at least in passing.
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Essentially the backstory tie is I live part-time in the dish-pit, eating scraps and cleaning plates, and telling them tall tales of circus life.
I'd jump on the offer to mingle backstories, but Pril isn't local.
Her background and appearance has been added to her profile.
Happy to tie in backstories. Allandír has been part of the town for nearly 20 years, and there probably aren't that many elves. If you live in Breachill you probably know him by sight at least.
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Going to be hard to tie Lucius' background to anyone apart maybe from Allandir (met before under different circumstances) or Pril (passing acquaintance from some time back?). He's older than norm, late 50's [in a world where Human's live to 90 apparently] so still reasonably vigorous and so forth but not a spring chicken!
Boink. I need to sort out his gear (what does a wizard start with?!), but other than that, Ervan is ready to go. I think. I hope.
Oh, he's also a follower of Abadar(!), but he leans towards the democratic side of things. Blame Andoran ;)
Then maybe Allandír knows Nell's grandfather, him being one of the other elves in town? If not friends, he could have become a regular at your woodworking shop over the years.
@Nell - works for me (athough Allandír is only 20+ years or so older than Nell, so is probably himself still a child in the eyes of her grandfather). Whether he knows Nell herself is an open question: he'd be a good source of war stories, if he ever talked about it (he's not proud of some of Pelanor's deeds). There are probably rumors still circulating that he arrived in town with armor and weapons that had seen much battle, but he's been a peaceful woodcarver for nearly 20 years.
I figure since Ervan isn't a native (though, in a sense, he is a returning native), he doesn't know any of you. Still, he looks very much Isgerian, but dresses in a style more reminiscent of Andoran than Isger.
And yes, he's about as exciting and thrilling as oatmeal. That's by design. Isgerian design.