The Lost City (4e Paragon)

Game Master Rev Rosey

It looks like Nayce is going to make it. Let me make sure he's all updated...

Guldarin will be there, as laconic as usual. Probably with some slight differences, which I'm working on.

How big are the final contributions to the ritual kitty?

Cronin: 1500gp (plus the rituals themselves)

From Guldarin, 4000gp. Along with several more rituals, and some retraining for different skills.

6000 gp from me. I'll be getting hit a lot, so it's nice to have a backup plan for my buddy Cronin to " bring me back from the light" if I need it.

Looking good.

Cronin is ready
Greeg is ready
Guldarin is ready
Nayce is nearly sorted
Zeric is ready
Dram is ready
Don is ready bar wishlist
Kevaras - ready?

You leave for the desert in the morning :)

I'm ready. Final contribution to the group's Accidental Death and Dismemberment insurance fund is 5,120GP.

Game thread up here.

Let's have fun with this :)

Additionally, I'll be talking about the campaign here. I'll generally try to avoid spoilers, but there will be some discussion of how the mechanics work that you may find interesting. Yes, that is shameless pimping of my own blog. Forgive me.

10k for the ritual pool, i had not gotten a chance to work on my wish list, but i will try and get it up there tonight

I can contribute to the ritual fund too, Even a bandit knows to have magical backup let me check my sheets, and I'll see you IC shortly

Still updating Nayce, but I will get that finished soon.

Don reluctantly ponies up 4K for the Ritual pot.

Also, I picture Don being quite the curse wordsmith, I suppose I'll be using fake curses for the more objectionable terms, rather than, say asterisks to call in question a person's habits regarding livestock.

A man with a large bear at his side isn't likely to be too worried what curses get thrown his way :)

Guldarin would like to know if it's acceptable to curse people with small bears?

If Guldarin wants to curse people with medium to small bears, he is welcome, but I'd recommend Amy is on hand to sweep him to safety. Tiny bears are off limits.

Dirt hrumphs in his general direction

did anyone buy rituals yet? I'd like to take 1K back for potions, half price potions sound awesome to me, I see more than a few I'd like to have available, elven fleetness and clarity, regeneration could be useful for peeps too

I'd already bought the key rituals -- the main fund was for components (and a Raise Dead scroll, in case I'm the dead on . . .)

But the current total (less 1K and the scroll for 5340) is 24K, which is far larger than I expected -- thanks, all! 15K residuum allows two more Raise Deads and lot of other stuff, which I hope will be ample.

Rev, do you mind if we do some fill-in right now on some of the more expensive rituals? I'm thinking of things like Shadow Walk, Eagle's Flight, Water's Gift, Trailblaze.

Go ahead. Just remember to keep tabs on what you spend on components. There will be places to restock, but not too many, so make the most of the Emir.

I admit, I know very little about rituals, though I am finding hero's succor to be pretty useful, and cheap.

I'll use the 1k to buy some potions, that ole Don will grudgingly assist others with. ^_X

Total fund: 29,620

I just realized Guldarin also has Raise Dead, so the scroll would be <i>*ahem*</i> overkll. He also has Comrades' Succor.

I'll add the ones I named for 4500gp. That leaves 24,120 in residuum, which should be ample for long to come -- I'll just track it on my sheet, which I'll update Wednesday.

Are there any other rituals that would seem particularly useful? Guldarin has more money than I'd realised, and while some of that has gone on a few items there's still a bit left for rituals. Sending sounds as if it would be useful for getting a message to our sponsor.

Good catch, and only 360gp. I'll add it to the list.

I have a raise dead ritual that i get for free, but i can only use it once in a 24 hour period as well

Rev, can we buy rituals above our level from the Emir?

I'm thinking specifically of Far Sending (level 16, 4200gp).

EDIT: Also, Guldarin will need to take Shadow Walk and (Far) Sending, as Cronin doesn't have Arcana. I'll still track the expense from the kitty.

You can buy Far Sending as it seems like a sensible pick. If you want anything else, check on an individual basis please.

Great. Guldarin, if you'll add Sending, Far Sending, and Shadow Walk to your sheet, please, we'll have 18280 residuum left (after Endure Elements). I'll update my sheet by tomorrow.

Guldarin's sheet is fully updated.

I am having a total block on what to do with Nayce. Can anyone recommend some feats or gear that would make him not so fragile?

The most obvious things are Toughness (10hp) and Improved Defenses (+2 F/R/W). They're not flashy, but they're good.

And 70hp is quite low for our level.

hmmm...well Improved Def could help yes, but I think the thing to remember is that Rev's games have extra hard monsters, and as such it is, higher defenses won't matter as much as reactive abilities, attack denial, and reactive surges.

Also, aren't you supposed to be lvl 13 now, and do you have inherent bonuses added this time, in case it helps?

BTW, while we're on the subject of Nayce, I always hear his voice being Jamie from Megas XLR, dunno why.

You are certainly supposed to be level 13, which will help a bit.

On the monsters thing - yes, I do tend to make them harder. I try to balance it by reducing their hp by a lot, but making them more dangerous to keep around. It's a personal preference, but evolved as a way of trying to make sure every fight was a legitimate reason for handing out enough XP for you to level fairly frequently. Otherwise pbp leveling is slow to non-existent.

Please note that despite my best efforts, I've only ever killed one pc and one npc white dragon. I'm constantly surprised by how tough a party can be :)

I'm not adverse to it at all Rev, just noting to Nayce that he might feel like a pincushion, but it's only because we're fighting a bit more advanced enemies. Just means we have to think more tactically, and rely on each other a bit more.

While we're on the subject, was that solo eladrin battle supposed to go that smoothly, or did we somehow nova that fight?

Didnt look to see if you had any of these, you may already

Slayer's Escape Utility power
immediate reaction, you are hit by an attack and you can teleport 5 squares, and you become invisible until the start of your next turn

Antipathy Gloves : an enemy must spend 1 extra square of movement to enter a square adjacent to you

Escape Tattoo: when a nonminion enemy scores a critical hit against you and deals damage, you can teleport 3 squares as a free action

The eladrin fight can go several ways, but you did pretty much everything that would make it over fast.

Only two of you went into the mist and of those two only Arishat was hit. Thom and Lynore have ridiculous Arcana and Thievery bonues to do the disabling. Mindressa rolled pathetic init which didn't help her cause at all.

Just as well really. As you saw from the one round she was active, she hits like a truck.

and now i realize I was posting in the wrong thread XD

well hardly a matter, as the 4E pool is still pretty small, sadly. Anyone got a better forum site to discuss 4E in general other than wizards? their forum search sucks.

I can't offer you a forum, but I got interested (of course) and have posted here about it.

interesting game theory, Rev. I've done stuff on Blogger as well, but it's all been In Game for me at least.

Yes, I'm still ironing Nayce out in the CB before updating him here, so the profile here shows him as he was at 12th level. I added Improved Defenses, which will be a help, and I'll take a look at Slayer's Escape. I wish assassins had more "gotcha" immediate interrupts - I would snap them up in a heartbeat.

Instead of more defensible, Nayce has become less defensible. The best I can get his AC is 25, when it was 27. And I thought 27 was too low :( Other defenses are improved, though.

I've got:

20 dex, +2 inherent bonus to AC, leather armor, light shield, +6 for level.

10+5+2+1+1+6=25

At this level, anything rolling a 5 or higher will probably hit him. Thoughts?

Some items that might help:
Darkleaf leather, +2 to AC at the start of an encounter that lasts until you get hit.
Cloak of Translocation, +2 bonus to AC (and Reflex?) after you teleport till the end of your next turn.
Bracers of Escape, an immediate interrupt that lets you teleport 2 when attacked in melee, which obviously works well with the Cloak.

I know this isn't really helping with your build, but stay as close to Greeg as you can. He can mark anything in base to base, and it's not going to be a good idea for those who he marks not to attack him. This will keep the heat off you at least, and sets up a very sweet flanking chance for guys like Nayce.

Most likely I'm telling you stuff you already know anyway, but maybe it will help in game sometime.

Cheers

don't forget that charbuilder's armor is screwed up, so you're probably shorting yourself a bit due to that.

let's see, Don has...10 for Constant, 6 for level, 2 for inherent, it lists 0 for drowmesh, but is actually +2
+3 for the armor's +3, +1 for two weapon defense, and +6 from Dex

since inherent is the same as the enchantment bonus, we ignore the +2 inherent for now, and use the +3, so Don has a 28 AC standard,

so it is a 28, but listed as a 26 on CB, so there's an example, but yeah, getting hit on an 8 sucks, truly.

so Nayce has the +10 constant, the 6 for level, 2 for inherent. Don's TWD matches your shield, his leather is listed as 2, not 1, so here's the difference I see. that and my dex is higher since I didn't have to main CHA. I think you're supposed to be at 26

let's look at Raya too for evaluation, she's lvl 15 so note the difference

10 for constant, 7 for half level, +2 for shield, +4 for armor bonus, +0 for gith plate itself, which should be 10 IIRC.

has her listed at 23 AC, when she's got 33

I think I've got it!

I gave him some extra defense:
Feats - Toughness, Improved Defenses
Utility Power - Vanish (and he already had Slayer's Endurance)
Equipment - Bracers of Escape, Escape Tattoo, Circlet of Second Chances, Shielding Girdle (and he already had a Cloak of Translocation)

I decided to keep the Snakefang leather (although it's now Drowmesh Snakefang Leather) instead of Darkleaf.

I calculate an AC of 27. Could you verify? (10 + 6 (level) + 5 (Dex) + 2 (leather) +3 (enhancement [higher than inherent] +1 (shield)

His other defenses got a much larger bump due to Improved Defenses.

More exciting, though, is his beefed-up damage output. Fancy 1d12 weapon, a feat to bump his shroud damage to 1d8+5 each (instead of 1d6+3), a new paragon-level pair of gauntlets of blood (so he's now up to +4 against bloodied foes). He'll be even better at dealing out death than ever before!

Also, I'm tossing another 1000 gp into the ritual pool.

here's what I don't get, why go for gauntlets of blood, when you can have those armbands of power that gives you damage no matter the condition of the enemy?

your AC looks right to me, but I'm also the new kid on the team

I have no idea what CB is doing with AC, but it's silly and should clearly be ignored.

You all look roughly right to me, but let's see how it goes.

Note that it is my custom to let you make changes to your build after the first battle. I ask that you don't change your race or class, but apart from that it is open season. After that grace period, you generally need to wait to retrain anything you hate.

Rev, Don's action was already posted, unless we're already a round ahead from the surprise round?

Moved into the first round proper. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

I just wanted to give everyone a link to some nice piano music that could help get people into the proper mood.

http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/sburb

my favorite is Revelations 1-3