
Illthir Winlowe |

If it is actually a familiar replacing it costs a decent sum. And it is smart enough that we might be able to squeeze some info out of it. Might even work as a scrying link.
Hitting the horse might be worth it. Especially if it stops him from fleeing. Even if one slap isn't enough it might soften it up enough that we can shoot it down.

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Since Salzarus apparently needs light to see by, I can keep hitting him with fireworks over and over. I have a 600-foot range. While the spell runs it takes a move action to shoot off a firework, so if I don't have to move I can cast a second one and then shoot two every round.

Illthir Winlowe |

Hmm what does Numalar weight?
Maybe it's most efficient if someone picked him up and ran after them.
I admit it might not be the most dignified plan ... :-P
Also making a 1hp char such an attractive target might not be the best idea. Maybe.
@light - Going by what GM let slip I think the light is for the mount.

Alia of the Blade |

Doesn't it need line of sight?
The campsite terrain does not exactly suggest you'd have a clear view for more than a round or two...do you have anything(maybe scroll?) with more alpha strike potential?
I should have altered my plan to use a second Greasing instead, then I would still have my bonded object spell to Scorching Ray his horse...alas, that train is wrecked. :P
(Plus, we know he has a communal darkvision spell online, I think the HORSE needs light to see...so he could probably slap on invisibility or expeditious retreat and make a run for it some other way...(which is why I wanted to get him too, not only the horse) - if we have any means to nuke the bastard...

Alia of the Blade |

Maybe it's most efficient if someone picked him up and ran after them.
I admit it might not be the most dignified plan ... :-P
Great, now I want to make a Blaster Gnome teamed up with a Half-Orc Barbarian giving him a Piggy-Back Ride for some recruitment.
Someone want to make a combination submission for a game?I mean, obviously it's a Master Blaster ripoff but it would be fun regardless - :)
Plus, MK also did it :P
(Plus with Storyteller Shadow shutting down some games I can actually dare look at recruitments again...)

RPGGGM |

"Who runs barter town?"
Just remember that after 8 hours of walking with Master on his back, Blaster starts taking lethal damage, no save.
Alia's right about line of sight, Numalar and Zokon have maybe a round of shooting at him before he ducks around a hill.
On a side note, Scarlet noted the bandits three horses tethered just off the southwest corner of the map.

Illthir Winlowe |

What if we juggle him instead? That doesn't have that fatigue clause ... :-P
Also - Pathfinder 2.0 has just been announced. A heads up if you care :-)

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Just remember that after 8 hours of walking with Master on his back, Blaster starts taking lethal damage, no save.
If Blaster is just Auchs with an animate dead spell then he will be immune to nonlethal damage!
(Plus with Storyteller Shadow shutting down some games I can actually dare look at recruitments again...)
Yeah, it's sad. I was in two of his games.

Alia of the Blade |

Auchs with animate dead?...
But, but, my Barbarian(Armored Hulk) x/Fighter(Siege Breaker) 2!
With Bulette Style and Overbearing Advance!
"All aboard the pain train! Choo-Choo, m*th*rf*ck*r!"
I mean, he's just a moving artillery platform...and I'd totally go for a Tiny Tina-flavored Gnome

Alia of the Blade |

I've been calculating damage wrong due to enlarge person this whole time. Not that it matters since I haven't hit anything yet.
Yet the time you start doing it right, it's actually not :) Unless you brought arrows that are actually large-sized, they will return to normal-sized ones and do regular-sized damage.
Any enlarged item that leaves an enlarged creature’s possession (including a projectile or thrown weapon) instantly returns to its normal size. This means that thrown and projectile weapons deal their normal damage.Ways around that include, for example, using an efficient quiver to store some large-sized arrows(depending on GM, some rule they are now huge-sized and unusable for the purpose despite the non-dimensional storage space), or a endless ammunition-bow...

Scarlet Scarab |

Oh. Oops.
Attribute this all to Scarlet's general grumpiness over this whole hunt. At least we got Auchs?

Alia of the Blade |

Yeah. And we staggered Salzarus Horse -_-
Fat good that does us.(since we don't actually know it).
Kobold Caster gets away, this Caster gets away.
We seem awfully unlucky when it comes to actually taking down mini-bosses.
(Plus if he can prep/cast mount, we know pursuit is pointless. He can simply prep it twice and hustle 2 summoned horses a day into unconsciousness...)

Illthir Winlowe |

He can only re-prep his spells if he gets to rest. Persistent hunting anyone ^^?
Also, really, considering those saves that horse/mount really deserves a cookie or something!
Hmm. We might want to invest in some nets or tangle-foot bags for future use.

Alia of the Blade |

Persistance hunting is awesome, but the same is true for us. No rest, no recharge. And you don't know what else Schrödingers Wizard has prepared.
Or left open, for that matter.
That said, things would have been so much simpler if we had managed to surprise them, instead of the other way round.
I mean, they got the jump on us, after buffing up.
I dare say the battle would have went much differently if we had managed to surprise them during the night - i figured being slowed down from tracking in the dark would take us long enough for them to settle down in their camp, but obviously, we've arrived too early.
So I think we may need some utility for the future...to make that "battle with advantage for us"-thing actually happen-

Illthir Winlowe |

Ah yes that's also a problem/challenge : )
There's of course a decent chance they had their sneaky/perceptive scout being a rearguard. That way they would have a huge advantage when it comes to spotting the other first. And, since they are NPCs stinking bandits, they wouldn't be as sad if said scout screwed up and got caught. I mean we could have sent Zokon ahead but if they aced their Perception check that would really have sucked. (Incidentally this is why I like [flying] Familiars. Stealthy and fast enough to work as scouts and aren't *quite* as painful to replace as PCs :P)
And as our powers grow we might be able to acquire some faster mounts or a stash of scrolls for situations like these. I mean Invisibility Sphere could really have helped. Same with Scrying or just Phantom Steed (or the cart version!)

Illthir Winlowe |

Gee he even comes over here to rub his level 5-ness in our faces :P
...
But! Since Sally is here; I have an proposal! A prisoner exchange of sorts. You get that screaming head back and we'll take Salzarus in exchange. Fair ^^?

Scarlet Scarab |

Like I warned before, there was a big chance we were running half-prepared into a trap. They definitely planned in case there were pursuers.

Illthir Winlowe |

Mm. That was a possibility we considered (and we briefly thought about racing ahead and trying an ambush of our own).
Edit: All in all, this was pretty successful. We only lost a few horses (and hp) and we downed/killed one of the bandits plus that head. And we have their horses - perhaps there's more?

Alia of the Blade |

Aye...but if they had meant to ambush us, I would have expected them to do that during the day, using terrain of their choosing...
Honestly, though, they had a headstart of several hours - even if they had a rearguard, it would have been a reasonable assumption to not get spotted.
Or, for that matter, that one of us would make the opposed perception check vs. the stealthed scout. After all, if he means to ride back and report, there's quite some penalty for moving quickly.
There's plenty of options how this could have come to be, but it was worth trying nonetheless...if his horse would have failed ANY of the saves, it would have been prone, stunned, or dying - and then Scarlet could have made shish-kebab out of him...as said, we were unlucky as well.
@Scout stuff: I am forbidden from taking a familiar due to my archetype(and one day, I will get my black blade), but my long-term plan had been to have Vega(my cat) awakened, picking up class levels as Ninja and being my Leadership-Companion!
He would make a splendid Scout...+he could have tracked their scout back and murdered them all in their sleep after sneak-pouncing the Guard...

RPGGGM |

I'll give it a few more hours (to see if anyone is heading after Z, or helping Scarlet kill people) and then we'll move on.

RPGGGM |

Also, I am in recruiting mode once more. It's been more than a few weeks since I heard back from JAF0.
I'd like to start with taking another look at WhtKnt and Aldizog (if either is even interested) from way back here. We have the elf bard at least half covered, and while I like the idea of a dwarf cavalier, I think we probably need someone focused on divine. So obviously: a hydrokineticist.
Also, for a bit of in-game balance: maybe a male character, and hopefully a CORE race. So obviously: a Lashunta hydrokineticist. ;)

Illthir Winlowe |

I like the way you think :-)

Alia of the Blade |

I would like to suggest Less....wait.
Since we're stuck with that Skald...hum.
Maybe we want to bring in both? If one wants to be the Dwarf Cavalier, the other could play a Centaur Kinetic Knight serving as mount...
just saying... (or the Cavalier plays a Centaur Charger Cavalier, and we have the Lashunta Hydrokin ride him-)

Scarlet Scarab |

About the prisoners:
a) We're gonna waste more time dragging Auchs back, assuming we have enough horses to handle him (and we can convince him not to bonk his way out.)
b) A tiny, flying head is very difficult to watch over. And this necromancer won't care about a flying head, he'll just decapitate another traveling bride.
c) Some party members have a contract to end banditry. We can execute them now or let them hang in Brevory; they are dead either way.
d) Scarlet is not one of the contractually obligated. But she's pretty pissed about this whole day and this guy KOed 2 of you.
So kill em, burn Auchs' body so he doesn't turn into a corpse bomb and put this lady's head to rest, please. Mega Scarlet's swords will gladly do the job.

Illthir Winlowe |

@b - I was thinking gag then stuff into bag. That ought to keep it at least for a day.
And I was mostly thinking of slapping the blabbering head down in the magistrates lap and requesting some troops to deal with the necromancer menace. Or rather to motivate our use of the mercenaries afterwards : )

Scarlet Scarab |

I guess we don't have to worry about Auchs. May he find and pet George in the afterlife.
As for flying creepy head, I like you plan of throwing it at the magistrate. Let's find a bag!

RPGGGM |

So is that two votes for heading back to the outpost? (Almost said "Oleg's.")

Zokon Santyev |

Zokon wants to hunt but may be persuaded to come back

RPGGGM |

And one for the wizard, and one for Mivon.

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Also, I am in recruiting mode once more. It's been more than a few weeks since I heard back from JAF0. ...
A dwarven cleric is always a solid choice. Or maybe a half-orc.

Zokon Santyev |

or a druid.. an actual ranger maybe

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A druid could be interesting. But remember that we do need someone to fill the role of primary party healer. I don't want to force Illthir to fill that role.
An alternative would just be to have someone actually play Jhod Kavken. He is with us already.

RPGGGM |

I think this time around we probably want some flavor of cleric, druid, or oracle or at the very least something that could fake one of those. I would be willing to entertain a dual class character so long as a significant amount of their levels were in one of the above classes. I really like my PFS bard 2/cleric of Calistria X. I played a higher level version of her (bard 2/cleric 4) in Lunar Sloth's Second Darkness game, but... mystic theurge (for even more arcane-ness!!!) is a possibility.
Of the above, I would lean toward more toward clerics or druids they fit in the campaign better , and we have enough 'pretty people' in the party as is. Now wisdom! There's a rare commodity. This is not to say that I couldn't see a half-blind saintly type, or cursed hermit/prophet a-wandering in the wilderness of the Stolen Lands until you guys enact urban renewal. But again there are some pretty obvious goals for clerics and druids in the game already (spread the faith and influence a whole future nation state with your dogma, or bring peace and renew the druidic influence over the area bringing back balance to a wilderness filled with monsters and bandits who killed all the previous druids)
Speaking of arcane, a witch is also possible (my other character from that Second Darkness game after the cleric got kicked out for "lewdness"). Witches fit the setting, and make up a significant pre-baked-in story-arc in Kingmaker.
Failing those I could see a semi-caster like an inquisitor, paladin or ranger with a descent amount of focus on support and casting ability. As we have a Skald some of the healing burden can be shared.
An alternative would just be to have someone actually play Jhod Kavken. He is with us already.
If someone wants to play him, sure (though he would require a little bit of a rebuild - currently he's built using the Pathfinder version of the 'elite array'). However, I would want to see him stay more or less thematically the same (interesting backstory and religion included), just a better version of it. So alas, he could not be the Lashunta hydrokineticist that we are all undoubtedly hoping for. If someone wanted to play a cleric different the paragraph or two I have on Jhod they can just build one. Just think of the power they will eventually wield in kingdom politics.
If someone wants play him as a sort of test case for their own possible cleric (or whatever) that's cool too.
Obviously, I will share his backstory with anyone who does play the Shepherd.
Thoughts?
If this sounds good, I'll look Aldizog and WhtKnt over again for recent activity ask them what they think, and if either would be interested, and we'll go from there.

Illthir Winlowe |

@Illthir + Healing - In a level, that is at five when Illthir gets Spell Kerning (sp?) she'll be able to start faking all those nifty (low level) healing spells. Like Lesser Restoration or Remove Disease. She can also start saving unused Spell Kernings with Scribe Scroll (thought that will need Use Magic Device but that's a nice skill anyhow :-)).
As for raw hp restoration she can start stockpiling cure light wounds scrolls (in fact I do think she has one or two?). We can also invest in wands. They are somewhat cheap and function well as between encounter top-offs. Maybe even get that feat and flex cooperative crafting (not the feat)?
Come level ten there is feat which shares Illthir's song healing which is nifty.
Just wanted to share some of our current (soon-ish) options. :-)
@Healing Classes - Mesmerists are actually also surprisingly good at status treatment eventually. (But I'm not sure if the occult options are available?).
@Recruitment generally - Sounds good to me!

RPGGGM |

@Healing Classes - Mesmerists are actually also surprisingly good at status treatment eventually. (But I'm not sure if the occult options are available?).
No.

Illthir Winlowe |

Well they are kinda neat at least :-P

RPGGGM |

No. Just no.

Illthir Winlowe |

Not a fan of touchy-touchy, creepy stares and snake oil? :P

RPGGGM |

I just want to say I have a whole bag of shh with your name on it.

Illthir Winlowe |

--- -.- .- -.-- -..-. - .... . -. -..-. --- --- .--.
Speaking of respectful silence, and what you mentioned earlier, that first link in your status bar will need to be updated. RIP Oleg

Alia of the Blade |

All the jokes aside, I think the reason for Oracle is that it gets more fancy stuff to play around with than the cleric - which still is one of the more bland classes. So yeah, it simply has more appeal. If there was a Wisdom-Based Oracle, like Empyreal Sorcerer, that would have been nice.
Druids are fun, though, and could probably fit nicely. Same with the Witch. But both are not TRULY primary healers - they can just function as such.
Aside from a Shaman(with Life Spirit for Channel) a hospitaler Paladin could also provide very significant amounts of healing(while having enough class toys to be useful beyond patching up people, and providing some anti-debuff ability in mercies).
(Plus a Paladin of Erastil would actually fit quite well - they're rather rough-around-the-edges outdoorsman rather than that iconic half-clerical holy warrior in a citadel...and a second dedicated archer could help Zokon with focusing stuff down faster.(that, and hospitaler would be compatible with Tempered Champion if we don't want more partial casters...))
But why am I writing. We'll end up with more Bards, anyway.

Zokon Santyev |

Hey we could end up with a tree elf druid and you could have more elfy powa company.

Alia of the Blade |

An amusing thought. Considering Alia's indirect involvement with Winter Council politics, a 'regular' Elf could make for an interesting contrast.
Particularily a traditional Elven Ranger that puts us both to shame :)
Or, you know, a Kender Leshy Caller with his Tree-like Tentacle-wielding Eidolon Shrub-Niggurath...

RPGGGM |

If he's going to be calling anyone from that genre it might as well be Cthulhu.