| Jin Hebimoto |
I assume we are gonna cut scene, if so Jin is going to spend either 2 hours tonight to hunt for materials or Two hours in the morning and then craft some elixirs. Considering he lives at the temple. If he doesnt in your world then He has his own pace.. Doesnt matter.
| Jin Hebimoto |
[victory fanfare intensifies]
* Also a note do you allow Retraining? This is something I have to unfortunately do around 6th level because of the requirement of Fighter's Blade.. which I forgot required Enhanced Blade.
| Lan Minerva |
+7 HP.
+1 BAB, Ref, and Will.
+4 power.
+2 stealth.
Fast stealth insight. (Full speed while stealthed at no penalty)
+1 competence bonus to trapsmithing.
Minor Metamorphosis get. (Amazing power)
Skills:
Know Nature, Dungeoneering, Planes.
Stealth.
Acrobatics.
Perception.
Disable device.
| Zaralastra |
Actually, I wondered about something similar. I assume a Psion can swap one psionic power for a different one upon gaining a level, analogous to a sorcerer switching spells, but I don't see this clearly addressed in Ultimate Psionics, unless I'm missing something.
| Jin Hebimoto |
Sorcerers dont switch spells until like.. 5th level and higher. HP is half +1. Jin is now the tankiest tank. I can now sleep outside nekkid.
| Jin Hebimoto |
For Jin his level up was pretty beastly.
+9 HP
+1 BaB, Fort, Will
+2 PP (For a total of 4 Woo~)
+1/4 Favored Class into Customization Point (Total 2/4)
+1 Customization point
- Energy Resistance Customization (5 [Cold] for now)
Gained Astral Suit 2nd level Abilities
Gained DR2/- while using Astral Suit
Gained Craftsman Class ability (+1 on a craft Skill [alchemy])
+1 to Death Threshold from Heart of the Wilderness
+1 to Survival checks from Heart of the Wilderness
+6 Skill points
- +1 into Craft (Alchemy)
- +1 into Knowledge (Nature)
- +1 into Knowledge (Psionics)
- +1 into Perception
- +1 into Profession (Tanner)
- +1 into Survival
| Jin Hebimoto |
I might also need to start having separations for Modes.. As Jin has three. Scout, Assault, Sentinel. One is movement and evasion, The other is powerhouse, The last is defense.
| Zaralastra |
I didn't have any swaps in mind, I'm just thinking generally that an ability one has at level 1 might not be a very good choice at, say, level 10.
| Jin Hebimoto |
I think the reason they might not have such an ability is because of the Power, Psionic Reformation and its ilk. But yeah, to my knowledge there is nothing that does that. On the other hand you'll be hard pressed to find powers that are not useful at higher levels BECAUSE they do not work like spells. You Augment them to full capability, so a first level power can be as good or better than a non-maxed 4th level power. A Good Example is Mind Thrust or Vigor.
| Lan Minerva |
-Know planes (for now) + psicraft. I forgot that we'd need it for wondrous items. :p
| Lan Minerva |
I'd planned to at least take Wondrous, as it's silly not to have at least one member take it unless the campaign is break-neck paced. It's just too solid of a feat for the whole team for someone not to take it, and Lan would definitely see the patterns thereof :p
Probable planned powers in the future: several 0th levels seem cool. Enhanced Vision, Animal Affinity. More to be determined later (as that's 3, 4, and 5, probably.)
| Lan Minerva |
I'm looking at Craft Wondrous at 3, then Extend Power at 5. Other than that, I don't really have anything that jumps out at me. Sure, I could take obvious feats like point blank shot (more damage and more hit -always- while using disrupt pattern), but... I've always been more about using feats to be a personal choices thing, not a 'I'm great at combat' thing. If it turns out I -need- to jump through hoops to make the character more mechanically sound, then I'll just adjust later on. Extend power at 5th is just a great choice, though, costwise for just about everything Lan will learn from that point on.
| Jin Hebimoto |
You see, that is something that is only possible if your class has enough fiddly parts to make up for lack of choice there OR if said ability isnt your focus.. and they tend to have spells or its equivalent. And example being Inquisitor.. or your Class's progenitor.. Alchemist.
You pick classes and feats to make the concept happen. Only .. basically casters can choose not to do that.. which isnt a fair comparison. I dont have leeway like Lan and If I chose to be so chances are you wouldnt be playing Lan.. as you would be dead. In Jin's case every feat is needed to be what he is.. that is how featlines and prereqs work.
| Jin Hebimoto |
You dont have to be old or New to know this. Basically.. You are a caster.. meaning IF you had zero feats.. you would function.. thats the measuring stick.
| Lan Minerva |
Oh, I entirely understand that set of difficulties. That's why I tend to play skilled/low-caster characters. I don't like full casters all that much, due to the exponential strength problem. What I do like is a large toolkit. Bard/Alchemist/Cryptic/Ranger/Rogue are my bread and butter. I tend to create a lot of other things, but I do best with this type of class.
The thing is, Lan could totally get a whole lot more optomized via feats if I so chose. I'm fairly certain I will mourn my lack of precise shot at some point in the near future.
Most probably (and again, I'm new to psionics as well), Psion is like wizard. You're going to have a lot of free choices, and a -very large- swath of really powerful choices amongst feats. And then things that don't do much at all. Like comparing skill focus to Spell Perfection.
| Lan Minerva |
Kind of sad. Seeing that a psicrystal would have been 100% better than skill focus stealth until level 10. Guess I'll take it at like 5.
| Zaralastra |
Not specific to psions (not "pistons," stupid auto-correct) or to psionics, but I'm always worried that I'll end up not being able to get some feat I want because I'll get to 20 before I have the prerequisites.
So ideally I like to plan a character all the way out to level 20 to ensure I have enough room for the stuff I really want, sort of like the way that you have to plan your choice of courses to make sure you have enough in your major to qualify for your degree by the time you get to fourth year.
| Zaralastra |
Zaralastra's combined PP/HP is quite similar to Jin's but, as a Psion, it's far more skewed towards PP and away from HP. So Jin has more than double Zaralastra's HP, but Zaralastra has way, way more PP.
| Zaralastra |
Character sheet has been updated to level 2. I now have 15 psionic power points, up from 7. My additional 7 skill points are going to all the same skills I took at level 1. My new psionic powers will be Inertial Armor and Vigor.
| Jin Hebimoto |
Righto, Those are fine Selections as Zara is lacking highly in Defensive abilities. For example even your Racial ability you could only augment up to your effective manifester level. So having the ability to create Temp HP is a nice buffer.
On PP, Jin wont really use them until later, and it does say something at the fact his stat is not 20, nor does he have free Psionic Talent. Still more accurately Jin has about effectively your HP and PP Combined.. about twice that.. As he has Diehard. 25+17+4 = 46 with Sentinel its 27+19+4 = 50. Still fun times considering Zara has Vigor to give him 10 hp and gains fast healing from certain powers along with his Elan ability to mitigate damage.
Hrmm I guess I'll post to give the story some momentum.
| Zaralastra |
Zaralastra's primary defensive ability involves manifesting his "stand behind Jin" ability, which has the advantage of costing zero power points. But Inertial Armor and Vigor will help as well. Sometimes I get pessimistic about IA and think that something that's trying to hit me is going to hit me whether I have IA up or not, so why bother wasting a round manifesting it but I know that's overly pessimistic. Still, as alluded to in the first sentence, a Psion's primary defensive ability involves not getting hit in the first place.
| Jin Hebimoto |
Well IA lasts Hours so its assumed you manifest it beforehand.. as it only costs 1 PP. And considering the most you can augment at this level 2 two.. not a bad investment.
Standing behind Jin is always a good plan.. at least NOW if we go against another Winter Wolf Jin could on Avg last about 7 rounds against it between DR/AC/ And Energy Resistance. By that time it should die before us. Most Likely I would use Assault Suit if we fought one again.
| Lan Minerva |
:P At least I burned the bad luck now, rather than later.
| Jin Hebimoto |
That is true it seems the bad roll fairies will leave you alone. I'm curious what the Elder has for us. If nothing soonish I might just Roleplay living for a bit. Slightly bored.
Do you believe the village has any defenses or walls, buildings and stuff. As Jin might also be known for repairing and maintaining upkeep on things as a free activity.
| Zaralastra |
Fortunately, I am much more durable at level two. I will likely need it because Psions do not seem to have the low level, quick escape spells that wizards have, e.g. "vanish" and "windy escape."
| Lan Minerva |
If Lan has plenty of spare time, he'll turn some of his money into traps, then exchange the traps with the people around town to aid in the gathering of food. He'd probably sell them at cost to make, or just enough to maintain his home's conditions. Or 'A snare, meat or pelt today, for a roof job tomorrow' as it were. :)
Manifesting two powers. Much Lan. Very obvious. Wow.
| Jin Hebimoto |
Lan-Doge
Along with Common Elixirs, Hunting for Food and General safety of the people..
Jin can repair items.. at Will. Normally the Psionic and Magical equivalent heals 1d4 after 10 minutes.
In that time Jin an repair the equivalent of about 100 Hp. So Possibly whole walls, valubles, weapons, Armor, etc..
| Jin Hebimoto |
Yeah, Psions dont get that.. but then again they can wear armor and have other early defenses so its a wash. Escape is more dependent on prevention. Even vanish wont do anything because it lasts.. a round.
| Zaralastra |
Speaking of which I've been wondering whether I should spend a feat at some point to get armor proficiency and, if so, what type of armor. Obviously, heavy armor is more AC but I don't want to completely eliminate the dex bonus I need for ranged touch attacks.
| Lan Minerva |
He's saying he's nonproficient in the armor, which makes the Armor Check Penalty apply to attacks. And if he wanted to go heavy armor... that's still -three- feats away. I think.
| Jin Hebimoto |
I dont think so, because otherwise he wouldnt have needed to say that If he was gong to take feats to wear said armor. Thus the "What type of armor" He is already not proficient.
| Zaralastra |
I don't have any armor proficiency feats. I am thinking about getting them so I can wear armor without penalty. But since you can't skip right to heavy armor and because 3 feats is really expensive, maybe the best option is just to get light armor proficiency, wear leather, and keep my dex bonus.
| Jin Hebimoto |
Your dex bonus is what? +2? Mithral Fullplate gets that by itself. I seem confused on what you mean by keep your dex bonus. Now the Alternative is ponying up on inertial armor and getting the equivalent BUT you would never get armor enchants, which might be something you want.
| Jin Hebimoto |
Ahh but thats Enhancement which is pretty much what an item gives anyway bonuses dont stack), so instead Mithral Breastplate would be what you want.
| Zaralastra |
So if mithral breast plate is medium armor, that would take two feats. I wonder if that would be worth it. It probably would not be for a wizard, even without the metal armor interfering with casting, but one cannot analogize directly from wizard or any other spell casting class to a psion. Being able to wear armor would make me feel all warm and fuzzy it but I can't help but think my primary armor isn't really armor at all, but range and initiative. I'm going to be fragile at melee range, armor or no armor so maybe meta psionic feats are the better choice. Or maybe just one armor feat and then I can wear leather.
| Jin Hebimoto |
Mithral is Light Armor. Also when you wear armor its either full or Bust. IE your either going at least the breastplate or Going Fullplate. Saying your gunna be squishy without fixing it is how you Die. I've seen alot of people do this as wizards thinking they are safe.. without realizing things with any sort of intelligence WILL target you. And if your AC is "I hit on a 1", your going to run the risk of "Crit/Dead"