
Jin Hebimoto |

I would say 95% of the time because it is possible to have a job that is WORSE than having no job. Either way, more power to you GM, make that money!

Lan Minerva |

Back when I lived in Michigan, when I was quite young, my mother wound up unemployed for several months; something like 8? Deadbeat father didn't have a job either, but that's not really here or there, as whatever money he did pull in never went towards anything productive. The important part is, 8 months on unemployment with food stamps, and subsidized housing, etc, etc... we lived better than before she lost her job. When she got another job... we went back to less food in the house, with no parents ever at home. It kind of makes me sad that it was easier to eke out a life by not trying than it was to legitimately do your best.

Jin Hebimoto |

Hrm Im only slightly concerned about a few possible issues as of now, because BOTH James and Luke are our Ranged, if they had been there before, that fight would have gone fast. As it would have been more than just Jin and Elisa on it. Later on if we fight a.. lets say, Hill Giant, Ranged capability would make the difference between general safety and mortal combat.

Jin Hebimoto |

Back when I lived in Michigan, when I was quite young, my mother wound up unemployed for several months; something like 8? Deadbeat father didn't have a job either, but that's not really here or there, as whatever money he did pull in never went towards anything productive. The important part is, 8 months on unemployment with food stamps, and subsidized housing, etc, etc... we lived better than before she lost her job. When she got another job... we went back to less food in the house, with no parents ever at home. It kind of makes me sad that it was easier to eke out a life by not trying than it was to legitimately do your best.
As a kid from Detroit, I know this all too well. Fortunately my parents never really have been unemployed within my childhood, BUT my father had to pretty much work everyday at AAM and My mother as an OBGYN to give me the priviligaed life I had which was only SLIGHTLY above what Food Stamps and Unemployment gave for a family with two children.

Lan Minerva |

Pretty much that, exactly. Two kids, with two unemployed parents, lived better than her job as a supervisor at a glass factory. We wound up moving down south to Tennessee, where we didn't necessarily live -better- (goodness knows, I went stark raving mad, losing all my friends, and going from infinite things to do to... trees and snakes and bugs...) but we were able to survive off of the income that was available.
Also, on the note of 'ranged'. I'd say 'Lan is ranged' But when it comes to say... a Hill Giant... 30 feet is pretty much just melee. :P

Jin Hebimoto |

Right a Hill Giant we could still take with this party its just not as safe. Ont the other hand with the ranged we could have even taken on one frost giant if we REALLY needed to.. As Jin can take AT LEAST 1 hit, alot of the Giant being picked off well before he got into melee range. As we are now our main advantage is not available.. ESPECIALLY with lack of healing.

Zaralastra |

I will eventually become a buffing machine and capable of soaking up major damage, but right now I wouldn't bet on my odds against a cocker spaniel in a bad mood.

Lan Minerva |

:P I wouldn't bet on Lan's odds of surviving just about anything, if he's caught alone. Hence the crazy high modifier. Bear in mind, that if Lan is 60 feet ahead of you guys, and enemies roll to spot Lan, you guys have a +6 v. that particular chance to be seen. So just having him ahead by enough range for Jin or Elisa to Charge in helps to level the stealth playing field a -bit-.

Zaralastra |

I wish I could cast things like Synesthete and Circumstance Shield on you, but they're range: personal, so I won't be able to do that until level 8.

Lan Minerva |

Well then, in a pinch, Lan -does- have the equivalent of Brew Potion for psionics (tattoos), so we -can- spend money to get some tattoos for everyone and pass them around as needed. A psionic tattoo of camoflage for Jin makes it so that in his less-armored form he's -passable- at stealthing. It's by no means ideal (at the not inconsiderable cost, especially at our level), but for an emergency...
Also, in the interest of keeping things moving without making folks wait: Lan's plan is to scout out around the building, taking his time and being careful in his movements. He won't go in. He may well listen at a window, peek in, or something similar if that is an option. Assuming nothing bad happens to him, Lan will then return to the party and inform them of everything he discovered. (That way, you don't even have to wait on me!)

Zaralastra |

I wouldn't be terrible at stealthing since I don't wear armor but I don't have any skill in it and its not a class skill for me. But at level 3 I can get Chameleon, for a +10 Stealth bonus. I'm not sure it's worth it though. We already have one stealthy party member and we'll ever have an all-stealth party, so me investing in stealth doesn't really contribute anything we don't already have.

Lan Minerva |

Sorry, Chameleon is the name, not Camo. I derped there.

Lan Minerva |

wow. Okay. I guess the party moved -really- close to it. Two rounds of movement while stealthed, keeping to the scrub and such, then moving across to the house. Afterwards, he'll slip around the exterior. Doing what he said before both in discussion and this room.

jimibones83 |

We get food stamps, but we only get $450 a month for a family of 6, which we can stretch out to 3 weeks if we really try. Unemployment does pay you almost as much as your regular paycheck though, but all that means is that if you didn't qualify for food stamps while you were working, you very well may not qualify for them on unemployment. Personally, we are much better off when me and my lady are both working. We often wind up working a lot of overtime though. What kills us is childcare.

Lan Minerva |

Lan's more the type to give him a burial, if not for the permafrost, and time taken to do so, while they're kinda in a hurry.

Jin Hebimoto |

Well we would take the weapons and arrows but intend on letting him keep the armor, some form of honorable burial. Maybe a few furs but overall not TOO many as there might be chance we return.

Lan Minerva |

Most probably, whatever we didn't take, we'd take back to the village with us. Including him. If we survive. I'll get a post up for stealth and such soon.

Lan Minerva |

Zara -did- take the bow. No one looted the dead guy though. Kind of tacky.

Lan Minerva |

Zaralastra takes the bow and quiver/arrows.
There's something exceptional about this bow. We can scrutinize it later when we have the time.

Jin Hebimoto |

A Frost Giant Oh my... then again in a world with Guns and Bows, you could reasonably kill one from a distance.
Also Ninja'd Zara took the bow a while ago.

Lan Minerva |

Ummm... if 'I take the bow and quiver/arrows' is only an implication of action, not an action... then yes. Are you saying something stopped him from finishing taking the object he tried to take..?

Lan Minerva |

Elisa is currently having internet problems. They're not going to get it fixed until probably monday.

jimibones83 |

This would be a great place for those giant purple blocks of text you guys are mucking up gameplay with.
But to address them, Jin mentions an important factor, guns hit touch AC. However, what he doesn't realize is that I customize my monsters to fit the setting. His touch AC is higher than normal. Its still not great because he's large, but its higher than normal for his creature type.
Also, while guns are everywhere, they're not actually "everywhere", that's just the term the book uses for our ruleset. They are common, but not everyone has one. Your town is the hub of psionics, and depends on it for its main defense. There is also about a dozen rifleman though. There is another town with a steam punk feel that focuses more on gunpowder, but I don't have it fleshed out yet so I wanted to start here. Your town actually imports gums from them, and has only been able to do so since the emerge of airships.
Your town is about the size of Sandpoint. It has a militia of about 30 monks, as well as a couple psions. The grandmaster is a badass thouh. But, he's a peaceful old man, and hasn't been challenged in your lifetime, so you may not realize this.

Jin Hebimoto |

You assume I didnt, I did, which is why in my argument I made it 14 which is still abnormally high.. but even then the hit chance was enough that the creature would die incredibly fast. What makes a creature dangerous to masses isnt how strong it is, but its ability to survive masses and ability to affect masses. You need one or the other to win out or its simply becomes death by a thousand needles. Even a Level 10 Basic Fighter, as amazing as they can be at damage and slaughtering a single creature can be effectively killed by his same CR in Level 1 NPC's, just from the sheer number of rolls.
I wanst saying Guns Everywhere meant they fell from the sky, but more as they readily exist and are therefore used.

jimibones83 |

Ah, good call. That post wasn't directed at Jin only though, it was to try and address a few of the points everyone made in your guys' convo.
Long story short here guys, that giant would fall if it faced your town alone. But is it alone? And even if it is, would it just follow to reek havoc, or would it just try to extort the town? The elders may find it safer just to pay tribute than risk his wrath in the middle of town, and he may anticipate that.

Jin Hebimoto |

Also we are basically Kinda distracted more likely just waiting on you to do something or waiting on something else while being somewhat active.

Jin Hebimoto |

Mega Ultra Wolf.. Well either way none of us can see it so at least for the first round.. so far. But I understand.. Big creature could kill us.. possibly.. maybe.. Though if the person attacked wouldnt be able to react anyway, the first attack would be.. basically the same.