
Derra Clawstrider |

Sorry at work at the moment. I'll try and post. Hopefully it'll go through. Internet cafe doesn't have the best wifi unfortunately.

The Little Game Master |

2 things: per RAW, "You can move through a square occupied by a friendly character, unless you are charging. When you move through a square occupied by a friendly character, that character doesn’t provide you with cover." So no cover bonus for you Annurian, sorry.
And +22 xp to Fenn for taking advantage of the single AoO per round that the creature gets!

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

Hehe... yeah.. I was being a sneaky bastard.. and hoping he'd have only one use of his AoO ..so one of use could flank him! :)
Fenn Xp - 243

The Little Game Master |

That action sounds fair to me Fenn; I'd even let you make a ref save to avoid the splash damage.
...we're not metagaming, are we?

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

That action sounds fair to me Fenn; I'd even let you make a ref save to avoid the splash damage.
...we're not metagaming, are we?
:) 'Just a little maybe..'
Fenn's Reflex Save: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (16) + 4 = 20 {Alchemist's fire - DC15}

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

Technically it should not provoke as moving two diagonals is 15'ft in movement ~ not 10'ft.. therefore I'm out of reach.
Fenn did not throw alchemist fire at the creature because alchemist fire inflicts splash damage at all targets within 5'ft of the target creature... ALL OF YOU.. and the already negative and stabilized Darra... large creatures are a b~#~&.. but they are easier to flank!

Annurian |

It takes 15ft of movement, but a creature with 10ft reach can reach there.
Space - Reach - Threatened Area Templates
It's different than splash area, or movement. Scroll down the page on this link I showed you and search for "Large (Tall) Reach".
Observe this site also shows how "Large (Long)" works (such as Andreas horse). It still occupies 2x2 squares.

The Little Game Master |

Fixed the horse, and yes, Fenn that movement provokes, since it's more than a 5' step and you're moving out of a threatened space.
And I'll let it slide this time, but please keep player knowledge and character knowledge separate in the future.

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

No. Your first and Only 5'ft square of Movement does not count... you can always move a 5'ft step without provoking.. and Fenn only moved one square! If Fenn had move two squares that would have been 10'ft of movement and provoked.
Its not player vs character knowledge EVERY warrior knows this stuff, its basic tactics. The Question was weather Fenn was still within reach of the large creature.

Sir Andreas der Eisfalke |
You are correct in that your 5ft step does not create an AoO..that is true.
but
If I am seeing and reading this correctly
you are still in the creatures reach and manipulating an item that causes an AoO. So that creature gets an AoO for that action not the movement.
I also think he meant that the player Knowledge part is the fire being used on the creature because it regenerates.
I know what it is but my character does not therefore he would not know these things.
Now the DM was being very nice and letting it slide...lol
so can we let it slide..lol
I would really like to make it out of this encounter without a death in the party...lol.

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

Oh.. THAT... yes.. Fenn sees it healing itself... so he figures blades are not enough.. something else must be used.. he has no acid.. but he has used fire to kill undead his favored enemy when his blades did not work.
{sheepish grin}... yeah drawing a item from a belt pouch does provoke... I had meant to buy a bandoleer in town just for such a purpose so I could pull potions without provoking THAT and a lot more gear but it seemed as if the town was not really a trading post and with the end of year time issues in real life I didn't get back to it and it slipped my mind... until I realized I'd missed it. Honestly I was hoping on being out of reach... as my LOCAL DM pushes that two diagonals is 15'ft so HARD up our backsides I just thought I was safe more or less. 'shrug'.
...and honestly.. pitting the party against a creature that can one shot any of us in one blow is a little unfair for only the second combat encounter and STILL at first level~ particularly when its a 'random encounter' and not a sub-boss fight of any real note {the monster is just that.. not even having a 'name'}. Especially when its a known fact we have no healers... but I guess our DM wants some fatalities. What can we do but endure it?!?

Sir Andreas der Eisfalke |
I do not think it is too bad...if it is what I think it is..it is like a CR 3 or 4 maybe a 5. The DM probably adjusted the combat for our low levels. The creature I think it is gets like 3 attacks a round and it has done none of that..yet.
He may have a plan...who knows maybe a traveling cleric will wonder by...or maybe this creature happens to have a dozen cure light wound potions on it..you are the tracker..maybe you can track it to it's lair where it has a wand of cure light wounds..lol
I trust that our DM has a plan.

Derra Clawstrider |

The map isn't coming up correctly for me. Where am I in relation to the monster? I was going to post something but I can't see the map. :(

The Little Game Master |

The thing about it guys, is this is exploration, nobody said it would be fair. This is what you'll find in the forest. The forest doesn't care if you don't have a healer. The forest doesn't care if you're only level 1.
If you're so afraid of a party death, feel free to try to run away. You might outrun it.
My plan is to give you a heart-pumping and nail-biting experience, not a fluffy little game where you have little to no chance of dying.
In the future, I recommend stealth and being more choosey with your battles.
Also Fenn, your local DM is right, two diagonals is 15'...of travel. However, a creature with 10 foot reach can reach it as if its 10'. Them's the rules.
Derra You are at the creature's feet, it's large and you are to the east of it's southeast square. Andreas' horse is standing over you. You are in its northwest square.

The Little Game Master |

Totally up to you guys what to do now, it is sundown, and the camp is within an hour from your current location. You can choose to advance after quickly patching Derra up, or take her back to Oleg's or whatever you like (obviously, this is a sandbox). Just keep in mind they said they rarely stay gone more than three days, and it's now been 1.5 (right? I counted that right, didn't I?).

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

Yes, I believe you are correct.
There are 2 vials of alchemist's fire, and a total of 8 days worth of trail rations.
There are also 4 sets of leather armor, 1 dagger, 3 short swords, 1 composite bow, 3 longbows, 80 arrows, a silver amulet and 65 gp.
7 pp, 205 gp, 587 sp, and 1,097 cp
silver candelabra with holy symbol
electrum censer with silver filigree
onyx, unworked rock crystal quartz
- white oil
- violet-red potion
- brown potion
- ivory potion;
3x arcane scrolls: 'red' rune, 'white' rune, 'red-orange' rune
quarterstaff-Mw

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

Sorry real busy tonight.. will post later this evening...

The Little Game Master |

Just wanted to let everyone know: my wife and I are going on a cruise with her family from Monday to Friday next week. I should be able to post until Monday morning.
Thanks.

Sir Andreas der Eisfalke |
How often can people post? I understand that life comes first. I just would like to move this game along faster. It seems we are getting bogged down for one reason or another.
In another game I am in the rule is if you do not post in three days you get botted. If during combat it is one day. It only works because all the players agreed to it. This might work with us

SCKnightHero1 |

I'm still here. Work has been busy.
In terms of speed: you guys are moving way too fast! I can understand wanting to move things along but I can barely keep up.
So I have come to the painful decision that I must leave. I apologize for this and I hope yalll have a great time. Thank you for understanding.

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Sorry to see Derra go, she woulda been interesting.
Do we want to look for a Cleric/other Healer type?

SCKnightHero1 |

Yeah I really don't want to go but you guys are moving way too fast for me to keep up. Usually Sundays and whatever other day I get off are about the only times I can post and even then I try to catch up on chores.
I don't have internet so I have to use my iPhone to post but I also have to watch my data as I'm on my parents' data plan (they're trying to save me money).
Plus I live on the East Coast and I usually work mornings so I do try and post online but it depends on how late it is so I try and go to bed early so I can up early the next day.
Again I really don't want to leave but this campaign is moving too fast for me to keep up.

SCKnightHero1 |

Thank you Andreas. I really didn't want to go but the campaign is moving too fast for me to keep up.
And I appreciate you finding my character interesting Gird. I really wanted to play this campaign but I keep having to play catch up and I don't think it's fair for me or y'all if I can't keep up.

SCKnightHero1 |

Still I hate to leave y'all hanging.
Tell y'all what: give me a few days to get things straight on my end and if I do, I might come back. It could be that I might be facing burn out.
But I'll leave that up to y'all. In the meantime, I give Andreas permission to use my character as a cohort/squire. That way y'all have some combat backup.

The Little Game Master |

If Andreas doesn't want to use Derra as a cohort, I will just roleplay her out. That way, if you do get things squared away SCKH1, we can roleplay her back in just as easily.

The Little Game Master |

157 xp each for this encounter!
All the bandits have a short sword, a longbow, up to 20 arrows (depending on how many they fired during combat), 2 days of trail rations, and 10 gp.
Kressle has a red potion, studded leather armor, 2 masterwork handaxes, and 85 gp.
Buried beneath their other supplies (food, firewood, tents) under the easternmost scout-post are the following: 90 gp, 321 sp, sliver earrings, a wooden music box, three crates of furs and hides, and a polished wooden case with eight bottles of a translucent greenish liquid inside.
The liquid inside the bottles is an herb-liquor, and not cheap stuff either.

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

7 pp
505 gp
908 sp
1,097 cp
1x vials of alchemist's fire
20 days-trail rations.
camping supplies (food, firewood, tents)
4x leather armor
studded leather armor
2x handaxes-Mw
1x dagger
9x short swords,
quarterstaff-Mw
1x composite longbow
9x longbows
200x arrows
silver amulet
sliver earrings
wooden music box
silver candelabra w/holy symbol
electrum censer w/silver filigree
onyx
unworked rock crystal quartz
3x crates of furs and hides
polished wooden case [ 8x bottles - translucent greenish liquid ]
Potions:
- white oil
- violet-red potion
- brown potion
- ivory potion
Arcane Scrolls:
- 'red' rune
- 'white' rune
- 'red-orange' rune
Kressle
- 1x red potion

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I forgot it was in discussion thanks Fenn.
Is the XP total 541 atm?

SCKnightHero1 |

Okay y'all. I'm back. Just need someone to bring me up to speed on what I missed. I'll try and post in the gameplay thread sometime later today.
Also I was wondering if Andreas is okay with Derra romancing him? I always like to ask another player if he/she is cool with my character romancing their character in order to make sure they're comfortable with that.

Derra Clawstrider |

Ah okay. Fully understand. Just want to make sure you're comfortable and all. Don't want to step on anyone's toes here.

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

Honestly guys... sorry to admit.. I'm not really feeling Fenn right now. I've had some real disappointments in the Paizo Site games of late.. among other things in my life as it stands. One campaign~ Curse of the Crimson Throne; I'd been playing for almost 7 years the DM just lost interest in running and I'm really bummed... Asherick Whiteplume... I wrote a titanic amount for that character and it all been for nothing as the game ended before we finished the AP... I'm tired.
http://paizo.com/campaigns/MegansCurseOfTheCrimsonThrone/gameplay&page= 14
The same DM was also running a Legacy of Fire Game; that I was thoroughly enjoying and did a large amount of characterization in my writing in playing my Silena Dulare... and she stopped running that too... so I'm really feeling burned out and burned with all the high quality writing I've done for both games for nothing...
http://paizo.com/campaigns/LegacyOfFire66u94/gameplay&page=31
I just don't have the energy to put into my writing like I used to when I'm not thoroughly invested int eh character's story AND inspired! Don't get me wrong I love playing Fenn.. but right now.. I'm just not in the mood to invest in his story as I'm not really feeling inspired.
I was also in another pbp game at a site called Rpol {role-play Online } , and another two games I was really invested in just ended as well and all my writing again wasted... so I'm feeling a real burnout here.
Add to the fact in no small part that Fenn is only 1st level... and I'm tired of low-level when I've been playing mid to high level capable characters... I've simply lost my interest muggling-on through low-level crap with a mostly incompetent character. Not anything against you... its on me.. MY character just does not interest me enough with the story as it stands. Just lost my interest.. and suffering from serious writer burnout.
So for now.. I'm just going to withdraw from this game... sorry to do this to you.. but I'm just not motivated to be invested in the game ...

Sir Andreas der Eisfalke |
With Fenn leaving what do we want to do?
Should we continue on and bot his character till we are done with this scene?
Should we start to recruit more player(s)?
Do we want to combine the two tables into one?

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2 tables to one wouldn't be bad.. if they need/want extras?

The Little Game Master |

Yeah, they're actually down to 2 players now, they were gonna hang it up. If you guys want to combine tables, that'd be fine. Especially since you're pretty much in the same area...I'll run it by them.

Gage G |

Hello, I heard you guys need a spoony bard and a foxy oracle, did I hear right? xD
I don't have time to read the gameplay thread at the moment, but I thought I'd spend a minute checking in :3

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Your welcome to join.. I think you lot would compliment the game and make it more fun.

ElfChampion466 |

@Sir Andreas:
Very sorry for interrupting this thread, but I have been trying to contact you. I did not say you were not in my campaign because I assumed you knew you were in. Because you have been my most avid supporter of my game, there is no way I would not allow you in. Perhaps I didn't clarify this, I apologize.
If you are still interested in playing as Estancia Silvertree, please join in. We are scheduled to launch on Sunday, April 2.