
Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

lol yeah, its embarrassing.. been busy.. meant to post but just distracted. I'll get one up.. sorry.

Derra Clawstrider |

Yeah. I've been distracted as well. So, it's cool.

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Heya gm sir
Did the bandits have bows in their gear?

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

Here is the loot as the GM listed it...
There are 2 vials of alchemist's fire, and a total of 8 days worth of trail rations.
There are also 4 sets of leather armor, 1 dagger, 3 short swords, 1 composite bow, 3 longbows, 80 arrows, a silver amulet and 65 gp.

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Thankee sir.. I couldn't find it..

Sir Andreas der Eisfalke |
do we have a list of party treasure or does anyone want to be in charge of that? Some of the other PBP I am in there is a list that everyone can see...not sure how we want to handle it...

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A list would be a good idea with who takes what noted.. when they need to take stuff.
Ha! I just found I have the loot in a spoiler at the bottom of my char sheet.

The Little Game Master |

Sorry I've been AFK. Rough week at work, and my sister came to visit this weekend. I won't say it won't happen again, but it's very unlikely.
Apologies.

Derra Clawstrider |

It's cool. I'm still here y'all. Things have been hectic for me as well, so I'm a bit slow catching up.
Also, did I get any info from my intimidation skill check? I've been waiting to see the results of that, but now we've moved ahead, and now I'm lost on what has passed me by.
I do apologize if I'm slowing the group down.

The Little Game Master |

I don't have the book in front of me, but it takes a lot longer to explore then it does just to cross a hex. Just FYI.

Sir Andreas der Eisfalke |
Just to confirm everything so that we are all on the same page...
We are traveling towards the Thorn River Camp to destroy those bandits and along the way we are (if time permits) exploring a hex as we have 2 days till the bandits will start to wonder were the others bandits are.
The Stag Lord is or at least I think he is in charge of all the bandits and therefore I think he is another obstacle all together, not located at the thorn river camp. Which means we will need to find out where this person is.
After the Thorn River Camp we can start to really explore the area.
Is this what everyone feels is correct?

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Falgrim Sneeg

The Little Game Master |

So I'm doing it such that you explore the one hex (the one with Oleg's trading post in it) over the course of your first day (from 1200 the day you set out to 1200 the next day); followed by nine hours of riding to the campsite as detailed on the map.
That's 100 xp each!

The Little Game Master |

108 for the bandits, 100 for a hex should be 208...am I missing 23 xp from somewhere?
Also, feel free to put your avatars anywhere in the burgundy box on the map.

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

You said Quote ~ 'First thing's first, you all have 121 xp from this encounter.'

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Can we just do it that the GM tells us when we level.. even if it's only one of us? Easier book keeping?

The Little Game Master |

huh...must've miscalculated. Oh well, free xp!
I am keeping track, and I'll let you know. I just like to keep everyone in the loop, to keep me accountable.

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Can't fault that.. good job Sir.

The Little Game Master |

I guess I should've mentioned before. The link lets you edit the map. You can right click your message-avatar and copy it, then go to the image, and push ctrl+v to paste it on the map, then you should be able to resize & move it as you like.

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

Ummm Gird...?
Gird moves up behind the creature and flanks it with Derra[dice=Mithral Shortsword+flank]1d20+6
[dice=Mithral Shortsword+flank]1d6+2
Check your position on the map.. your like behind Andreas... waay far away from Derra. you'd have to move a minimum of 45'ft... and take an AoO, AND wait for Derra to move close enough to threaten the creature.. she is within reach of HIM..but he is not in reach of her so she does not threaten him..and thus cannot provide flank to anyone as yet.
In either case you'd still be moving more than 5'ft and could only make a single standard action - attack not a full round attack action... which IS required to make a two weapon attack as well.

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Meh.. I had no idea i'd get positioned so far back...
I did only make a single attack with a single handed weapon.. not sure of your second point?

Fenn 'The Jr' {Winter} |

Opps.. duh..sorry, My Bad! :) Don't know what the heck I was thinking.. I may have been looking at a different game thread altogether! Yeah...you clearly only made one attack! :)
Oh...
@ Andreas - Remember.. you inflict double damage from the back of a charging mount with a lance!

The Little Game Master |

To answer your question, Andreas, I think raw is that you count as a single creature for reach, etc. My bad with the image, I made it a 2x2. Do horses get reach, being large creatures? Either way, if the horse moved more than 5' (which I think it has to to charge) it can only make one attack.

Sir Andreas der Eisfalke |
The horse has a 5' reach and occupies a space of 10x5...lol
so yes the horse could only make one attack. I am just wondering if The horse which is 10ft long and me with a reach weapon of 10ft. would both of us be able to attack? If not then It would only be me attacking and I would be back another 5 ft. I had just distance to charge.
I will roll another d8 for the lance then. sorry my fault.

Annurian |

It's either one or the other to attack... The charge movement ends when the first of you attack.
Even though the horse "occupies" 10x5, as a large creature it's usually represented as a 10x10.
If you're going to specialize on the charge, you definitely want to look at Ride-by to eventually get Spirited Charge (making your lance do three times damage) :)

Derra Clawstrider |

Wait a moment! I'm not sure that's how my tactic works. Since she's readied against approach, the monster's movement is immediately interrupted as she hits it on the monster's turn. I don't think it's able to attack her as its movement was interrupted by her being ready for it's approach.
It's a readied defense tactic, not a readied attack tactic. Sorry, my fault as well in explaining a bit more clearly when I said what my character was going to do. I apologize about that.

The Little Game Master |

It's either one or the other to attack... The charge movement ends when the first of you attack.
Even though the horse "occupies" 10x5, as a large creature it's usually represented as a 10x10.
If you're going to specialize on the charge, you definitely want to look at Ride-by to eventually get Spirited Charge (making your lance do three times damage) :)
This is true, only one of you gets "charge" damage, but the other can still attack normally.

The Little Game Master |

Wait a moment! I'm not sure that's how my tactic works. Since she's readied against approach, the monster's movement is immediately interrupted as she hits it on the monster's turn. I don't think it's able to attack her as its movement was interrupted by her being ready for it's approach.
It's a readied defense tactic, not a readied attack tactic. Sorry, my fault as well in explaining a bit more clearly when I said what my character was going to do. I apologize about that.
Appreciate that! Also, it looks like you started to write them out, but your profile is missing the text on your tactics. Having that would help in the future.
I figured I'd go ahead and detail the creature's action, even though your attack and damage would be resolved beforehand...or does it keep it from doing anything this round?

Annurian |

Annurian wrote:This is true, only one of you gets "charge" damage, but the other can still attack normally.It's either one or the other to attack... The charge movement ends when the first of you attack.
Even though the horse "occupies" 10x5, as a large creature it's usually represented as a 10x10.
If you're going to specialize on the charge, you definitely want to look at Ride-by to eventually get Spirited Charge (making your lance do three times damage) :)
Both can attack if they have the same reach, or if they have some feat or something that allows them to use a different reach or move again (like lunge or ride-by attack).

The Little Game Master |

I think we came to the conclusion that the horse has 5'and he has 10' and he more or less occupies the rear space on the horse. They can both hit.
I know I said "same creature" but looking at the squares, it stands to reason.

Annurian |

You didn't understand what I was saying, Andreas. By PF rules, while mounted in a large mount, you count as coming from the fours squares the mount occupies. If anyone is flanking your mount, it's flanking you. You're not in one of the four squares of the mount. So, by regular rules, a reach weapon still can't attack an adjacent enemy. If you're a mounted rider, you need a regular weapon to attack enemies adjacent to your mount.

Sir Andreas der Eisfalke |
That much I follow as I am not adjacent and therefore can attack with the lance. The thing we were trying to figure out is if the horse and I could which it can not per your description of the horse. It is a mute point as the horse missed anyways..so let us move on...lol

Annurian |

Sincerely, I never heard of readied defense, so I can only assume it's something specific to her character so I will let them talk as well. I imagine something on her class or archetype might work somewhat like Stand Still... I don't know (something that would allow her to interrupt his movement - simply attacking him usually wouldn't stop him from going on). Ready actions, however, usually go at the moment they're triggered (so it would go before the creature attacks or finishes his regular move action). The only thing I saw before was stuff like people readying to trip or bull rush... :)

The Little Game Master |

Right ;) I don't think our conversation is halting the game, though. I think we're waiting on the DM and Derra to figure out how the whole "readied defense" thing will work on the scenario.
Mainly waiting for Derra to provide the relevant citation/explanation.

Derra Clawstrider |

Oh! Well, I wasn't sure if you going to retcon me not taking damage or something, so I was actually waiting for you. But it's actually a tactic used to prevent someone from charging at you or trying to get by you. Pretty much if an enemy tries to approach you or get by you or gets anywhere near you and you're readied against approach, it doesn't matter if they're coming at you or trying to get by you: if they get anywhere near you, then their movement is interrupted and you get in an attack. The attack roll has to succeed, but the tactic is one that I commonly use when I play melee characters.
It's a tactic that is used in D&D 3.5, so I doubt you'll find it in any Pathfinder book, but since Pathfinder and D&D 3.5 use a good many of the same rules, it should be legal to use. Pretty much, it's a readying an action move.

The Little Game Master |

Sounds to me like you have a readied attack, which you are free to roll now. If that attack interferes with the creature's turn, I will retcon. Otherwise, the creature will do the same thing if with less HP.
Just so you know, it wasn't charging or trying to get past you, that's a move action, standard action attack targeting you.

Sir Andreas der Eisfalke |
now that the holidays are definitely over. Can we as players post a little more often. I know we have had some problems in the past but I would like to move this along at a better pace. I know and understand that RL issues take front seat.

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i'd like that as well.. i'm pretty active and this is a good game.. more mooaaarrrr

Annurian |

I'm not sure who we're waiting for now. Maybe the GM is waiting for some sort of link for this "readied defense" maneuver? Derra, I believe you when you say you used it on other systems, but unless you have something special to allow you to do it, this kind of action requires a feat in Pathfinder. Just being attacked doesn't interrupt the monster movement neither prevents it from acting.

The Little Game Master |

I'm waiting for Derra to move. It's her turn readied action or no. Then it'll be yours and Fenn's turn. I was going to post after Derra.
If she's taking too long for you, I think she said before that she's fine with y'all botting her.