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Vanthor is really concerned with agents of evil back in Drezen. He thinks they could be working under cover and he would like a few magic items to help thwart them.
Specifically he mentioned a Gem of Trueseeing.
I told him that could be possible, as you have access to NPCs that can craft magic items and cast those spells.
Weigh in on what plans you think are important.
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Revisiting Vanthor's concern about spies and bringing up your loot!
In addition to any loot you may have on your sheets from previous live sessions, Xanthir Vang's treasure he left behind in his room and the Sanctum's vault includes:
A collection of books that weighs a total of 800 pounds, but in all is very valuable, worth a total of 12,000 gp.
An unused word bottle(1,500 gp)
An empty blessed book (12,500 gp)
A silver raven figurine of wondrous power(3,800 gp), although the raven has an unexpectedly large number of eyes and legs...
Pouches of coins, 3,402 gp and 239 pp along with gemstones worth 4,500 gp.
A pair of retriever drones(8,000 gp each) that look like taxidermic spiders the size of house cats.
Vang's spell books are in a bag of holding type IV(10,000 gp)
The following spells are in the books:
1st—grease, identify, mage armor, magic missile, shield, summon monster I
2nd—arcane lock, eagle’s splendor, false life, fox’s cunning, glitter dust, owl’s wisdom, resist energy, scorching ray, summon monster II, summon swarm, web
3rd—dispel magic, displacement,explosive runes, fireball, fly, haste, magic circle (all four), nondetection, slow, spiked pit, stinking cloud, summon monster III
4th—animate dead, black tentacles, contagion, dimension door, dimensional anchor, enervation, greater invisibility, illusory wall, phantasmal killer, stone shape, summon monster IV
5th—cone of cold, cloudkill, dismissal, lesser planar binding, persistent image, sending, summon monster V, telekinesis, teleport, wall of stone
6th—antimagic field, contingency,disintegrate, greater dispel magic,
planar binding, repulsion, shadow walk, summon monster VI, wall of iron
In the vault you find:
1)Six chests, each with 5000gp in them
2)Several art pieces that include captured holy symbols, jewelry, paintings, fine clothing, statuettes, dinner ware, and more. Weighing all of 110 pounds, they are worth a total of 26,500 gp. Fully 1/3 of the objects and treasures in this batch were recently stolen from the Librarium of the Broken Black Wing during the destruction of Kenabres, as can be confirmed by Aravashnial.
3) a suit of +3 mithral full plate, emblazoned with the holy symbol of Iomedae. This is the suit of armor worn by Yaniel and it is of great significance to Vanthor's sword Radiance as it flared to life on its recovery. Vanthor claims this armor as his own, out of both reverence to his god and respect to his mythic sword.
4) a +3 greataxe(18,320gp)
5) a sword of the planes(22,315gp)
6) a rod of empower metamagic(11,000gp)
7) a staff of healing with 6 charges (less charges=8,880gp)
8) a 5'x5' carpet of flying I (20,000gp) and lastly
9) an instant fortress (55,000 gp)
All this will take time of course but it will reduce costs dramatically. Use the rules in the Ultimate Campaign for crafting and submit them to me either in the Discussion tab or via OOC here and use a spoiler here if it is long.
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Irion would really like the carpet and would like the spell books (or the chance to scribe from them). I'm okay selling off other stuff. Wondering if we could use the cash to pay the difference to upgrade our own weapons/armor.
I don't know that I plan to do any role playing for Dojen. It would simply be too much right now. Suffice it to say he is struggling with the revelation of his father's true identity. Happy, soul searching, reverence - only positives. He worries about being worthy of this new burden.
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Irion is a sorcerer so he doesn't scribe spells in a spell book. He only knows a limited number of spells, just in case that was misunderstood. Study can help him learn the more unusual spells when he levels and starting at 4th level he can even swap old spells out for new spells whenever he reaches an even number caster level(6, 8, etc...).
I have bought Bracers of the Merciful Knight for 15,600gp to help with healing.
Trying to spend as little as possible so if someone needs a big upgrade or there is an awesome item that will help the party we should get that. I was thinking gem of seeing if we could. Also, we have some people that can make some more minor items so we can ask about that.
Yes, since the next session is most likely going to be moving to the next module I think we need to finalize the in between stuff so we are ready to go. If its hard due to schedules I can see what I can do for the party. If there something really important let me know.
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No other takers on the carpet?
Would Irion's have 18K to upgrade his bow to +3? Or 15K to up grade armor? Would we have had time to do that in the weeks we were here?
What is the gold value limit to buy items now?
Similar questions for Dojen.
I'm asking just because I don't know what we are keeping and how much we can get for whatever we sell (50% or maybe more for all the good will?)
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Carpet is Irion's!
You have access to go anywhere in the realms now that Arue has her full powers back. She can carry a bag of holding or other item like that with her to bring back more than her typical 50 pounds of gear. She can't bring anyone with her as her port is personal only. There could be a way around that but it isn't something to worry about for this sort of thing.
Stick with the 50% sell value since much of the selling of the expensive items would be out of town.
For custom crafted items, and the cost savings that offers, you would need to stay in town. The only limits for crafting are that you have to have someone able to cast the spells required, and at the proper level(treat friendly npcs as party members for this) and enough time and gold. Any special materials might also be something we could talk about if that comes up, thought it just depends on what you want. All that said, use the ULTIMATE CAMPAIGN book for figuring how long it would take to make any items.
You have 3 weeks of time from getting back till the queen arrives to make plans, sell, buy, craft etc...
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To be more clear, because Arue can port you can buy from anywhere on Golarion, so limits are what you can afford.
Craft= look up in ultimate campaign for time needed to craft and costs. Done in Drezen.
Just buy=full price from anywhere but subject to availability
Upgrade=pay difference but still subject to craft times. May need to be done outside Drezen since they can only make so many items at a time in town.
Ron is doing the bookkeeping so I'll let him give you numbers. Full price for sale of art objects and gems and even the book,collection. The 50% is only applied to magic item and other weapon/armor selling.
At first blush, it looks like you will be selling much of the loot. I'm estimating, depending what you sell, you will have about 80k or more to divide up. That should give you enough for your proposed upgrade(s) for Irion.
Ron wants to keep the instant fortress. It's a cool item.
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and yes, even more... pg 548 of the Core book(at least in my book) starts Magic Item Creation and it goes for a few pages. Or just go here Magic Item Creation
It breaks down craft time as 8 hours (1 day) of work per 1k base price(not cost). Accelerated work is twice as fast but increases the DC to create by 5. A crafter can only work on one item at a time and no more than 8 hours per day.
DC to Create an item is 5 + caster level(or 10 + caster lvl for half the craft time). Failed checks means the materials are wasted. Failed by 5 or more results in a cursed item. This is usually a spellcraft check, unless otherwise specified.
Add 5 to the DC for each prereq the caster does not meet(such as needing a second caster that has the spell needed).
That means your gem of seeing is going to run at least a bit over a month to craft if you use the accelerated work pace with the higher DC. Tim's request for an upgrade to his bow or upgrade to his armor will take a bit over a week if you use the speedy option(and of course don't fail the DC roll).
Creating a Magic weapon or magic armor/shield has a special prereq that the creator's caster level must be 3x the enhancement bonus of the item. If an item has a special abilitiy then the higher of two are used to determine minimum caster lvl. That said, you have access to +3 crafted items presently.
*Special note* The purity forge can be used on evil items to turn them into good items in 1/4 the time and remove the all costs.
It has been a busy week, today included. I will check back tonight and see if you have questions.
Well hells bells, why didn't we just reforge the succubus? 1/4 the time and no cost? No brainer.
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If we have 3 weeks (21 days), then any upgrades I plan to make don't need to be rushed (assuming I read the rules correctly).
For instance, if I am paying the difference to upgrade and item, and it goes from an 8k item to a 16k item, it is treated as 8k cost and 8 days. It is not based on the new total value (cost 8k but takes 16 days).
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That is correct, though there is one thing I noticed that bears mentioning.
Your example looks like you "paid" the difference in full as opposed to half, which would be the case if you didn't craft the item yourself(or have a nice friend do it for that cost).
Think retail/sticker price vs cost price. You base all the time calculations off the retail/sticker price but pay the cost price when you are crafting. As long as that is understood, everyone is golden.
Here is a good example from Ultimate Campaign:
Example: Patrick’s wizard decides to use his downtime
to increase the armor bonus on his bracers of armor +1 to
+3. The price difference between the two types of bracers
is 8,000 gp, so Patrick’s wizard must spend 8 days and
4,000 gp (half the 8,000 gp price difference) upgrading
his bracers’ magic.
Prices only get wonky when you start adding multiple different abilities to items like bracers of armor that also act as bracers of archery.
Having the Gem of seeing or at least the ability true sight through a spell or scroll would be key for an important meeting like this. I think throwing it on Arushalae, with her high perception and the ability to duck behind something and appear to be another person to throw off suspicious eyes, would be a good idea.
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1)A blessed book (12,500 gp)(Ron was clever and sold Vang's spell books after copying the spells into this. He got over 4k more that way and you were able to keep a copy of the spells this way and keep the great magic item.)
2) a sword of the planes(22,315gp) This is a +4 longsword vs demons
3) a rod of empower metamagic(11,000gp) --> Dojen or someone else
4) a staff of healing with 6 charges (less charges=8,880gp)
5) a 5'x5' carpet of flying I (20,000gp) --> Irion
6) an instant fortress (55,000 gp)-->Anyone can have this. Very interesting item that, if used creatively, could be amazing.
After everything else is sold and coins are consolidated you have 94,237gp or divided into 4 shares of 23,559.25gp
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2 different characters can craft so lets make sure to keep track of them separately.
Aravashnial does wands, wonderous items and scrolls:
4 swarmbane clasps at cost of 6000gp and it was done fast for 6 days of your 21
Sosiel does Craft Arms and Armor:
Let's confirm Irion's choice of enchancement. Ron thinks it makes more sense to go bane-Demons instead of just making it a +3. Same cost but much bigger bang to select targets. your call. Either way the cost is 9k(half of the 18k difference) and the craft roll was successful for the fast craft for 9 days of the 21(if you want this)
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I know your bow is a +2 holy currently. What Ron meant was bane(which is a +1 enchantment) would cost the same but against a designated foe(Evil Oustiders), the weapon's enhancement bonus is +2 better than its actual bonus. It also deals an extra 2d6 points of damage against such foes and that stacks with holy for 4d6.
By comparison the +3 is only a net +1 improvement to hit and damage, though admittedly it is vs. everything (cultists, statues, and Vang etc...) so it really comes down to what will you be fighting most, demons and other evil outsiders or a more varied type of target.
We both agreed you need some serious ac buffing. He had some ideas, as I am sure you do as well, for that. You know those Ron deals, lol. If you were using the swarmbane clasp you can't use the amulet of natural armor either. Of course that can be swapped but who wants to spend the time in combat doing that?
That was his thinking and I thought it was a solid idea. I don't blame you wanting to do research though.
Also as Ron has said many times, if someone needs an item and they don't have the coin as an individual he was sure the party would chip in. It is all for the betterment of the party. Whatever makes the most sense.
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The description on the buckler says you can use it with a bow without penalty. Just to be clear, can I shoot and still gain full AC bonus from a buckler?
Also, Irion has 6k gold on his sheet, so I was planning on using that as well.
Buckler - 17k
Bow upgrade - 12k
leaves me with about 1,000
Also, if going bane, demon or will outsider work?
rolling to make necklace of adaptation. Helps with nasty gas attacks for a cost of 4500gp if it works.
just a test post. can't see my posts in another game.
Feat: Death or Glory
Skills:
+1 to Intimidate (+30)
+1 to Know,Planes (+10)
+1 to Know, Relig (+10)
+1 to sense Motive (+10)
5th level spells:
Breath of Life
Plane Shift
From years of playing Kelleran, I knew that was the case in 3.5, but I hadn't checked in Pathfinder.
yep