Rise of the Runelords by DM Doctor Evil (again)

Game Master DM DoctorEvil

We stuck?

It looks like everyone posted...

GM busy I imagine...

@All -

Apologies for the absence.

I should have posted Saturday that there was a possibility of being off-line till today (Thursday) because of many added activities to my wife and my schedule, mostly revolving around our four year old granddaughter. Losing internet access at the campground and the dang heat wave in NY did not help the situation either.

I will get a post up after lunch, three of four hours at the latest, unless the wifi goes down again, which it has on/off this morning.

-- david

No worries, David! Thanks for letting us know. I hear ya on the 4-year-old thing...I don't have one, but one of my good friends does. They take up a lot of time and energy! :)

Hey all--if anyone's interested in some pirate-y goodness and doesn't mind jumping into a story partway through, a Skull and Shackles game I GM on these boards has lost a couple of players recently and is looking to fill in a slot. I've been burned in other campaigns over the years by recruiting people I don't know from the boards at large and having them disappear after a month. So, since you all post regularly and always have such great posts to contribute, I thought I'd just ask if you wanted in before reaching out to someone else!

If you're interested, the gameplay thread is here. We're just at the start of book 2; current party is a bard, a rogue (the captain), and a sorcerer. We're also adding an ifrit brawler.

If you're interested, let me know! It'd be a pleasure to have any of you. :)

I totally know the Ifrit brawler you're talking about! She's a great character, was in a skulls and shackles game with me that ground down and that we are trying to revive. If the revival effort fails, I might jump ship and join you, but don't wait for me.

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I am interested and have pmed you.

Tomorrow, Thursday 2016/08/25, my wife and I are heading back to town to pick up our four year old grand daughter and bring her to the campground. She is with us till Sunday afternoon, when we drop her off back at her home. The kids, our daughter and son-in-law, are having an "adult" weekend away.

I should be able to keep up with posting, but just letting you know that this little bundle of energy has a knack of wearing out us two old farts, so if I miss a day or two, that is why.

-- david

No worries David! Have fun with the four-year-old.

And before anyone comes after me for the "liberal arts" joke, I'm being entirely facetious, my own education and job are in theater. ;)

Too late! Good news is I knew it was most likely Marcel's point of view and Kizzy would not care even if you had said it aloud. XD

Have fun with your granddaughter! My own little girl is 7 so it was not so long ago that I experienced the mischievous energy of a 4 year-old first hand.

I am pretty busy this week with getting the kids settled into their school routine and getting all geared up and ready for the Gameday, so a light week in this game is a-ok by me.

Have fun David... is that the appropriate thing to say when 4 yr olds are involved? :)

Hey, I will be out of town this weekend starting tomorrow morning and will have limited access to my computer for posting until next Tuesday. Going to Dragon Con. :)

Have a good time! :)

Assuming that you are going to put the bodies in the dining room on the first floor and have Marcellano cleanup the blood, etc. then you go back to Adolina place for the night and then investigate the sawmill tomorrow night.....

I'll move the game forward to Adolina place then the sawmill tomorrow.

Sounds right to me!

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Leveling up...just for my own record:

+1 level in Cyphermage
7 HP (1d6+1) gained
+1 BAB
+1 Fort
+1 Ref
Cypher Lore: Swift Scroll
Spells Added to Spellbook: Summon Monster IV, Black Tentacles Sweet sweet 4th-level spells omnomnom
8 skill ranks:
Knowledge (Arcana)
Knowledge (History)
Linguistics
Spellcraft
Knowledge (Geography)
Knowledge (Dungeoneering)
Knowledge (Local)
Knowledge (Religion)
New feat: ...quite possibly improve familiar, I'm just deciding how to work out Narcizia's new existence story-wise!

Bard 7:

+10 HP
+1 BAB
Bardic Performance as a move action
1st Level Spell: Saving Finale
3rd Level Spells: Confusion, Glibness
Feat: Persistent Spell
Skills: Bluff, Diplomacy, Knowledge (nature), Perception, Perform (comedy), Perform (song) x2, Stealth

Um, did I miss the announcement where we were told to level up?

Also, I seem to remember that a small halfling can't use the creepy mask to emulate a medium creature... Is that wrong?

Um, did I miss the announcement where we were told to level up?

Yup - last DM POST. 3rd from last line.

Also, I seem to remember that a small halfling can't use the creepy mask to emulate a medium creature... Is that wrong?

Correct, he can "look" like what he wants to, but will still be small.

-- david

Ok, I see it now. Still too muddleheaded to comprehend words, apparently. lol! Thank goodness 7 is an easy level up for a fighter. I've got a few too many irons in the fire just now to agonize over feat selection! >_<

@Kizzy, yea, saw you were recruiting 2 for your game. Good luck with that.

Plus finishing up 1 pre-gameday PFS table, plus running 2 for the gameday, plus playing in 6 PFS games, plus playing in 2 AP games (would be 3 if queenmaker was not in it's death throes). Oh and I'm drawing up a Wizard for a Hell's Rebels AP this weekend too.

I really have to do something about my Gameday fever, rofl! XD

Ok! I have leveled up the Kizzy. I was wrong, I did have to get a feat, so I chose Furious Focus. Took the extra skill point instead of hp this time and put it into Ride, just to have my bases covered. Other skills went into Perception, Intimidate, Survival and Knowledge(Engineering).

I don't think we've talked much about teamwork feats, but I did come across an interesting one: Harrying Partners

Basically, it would be a way to get +4 to your AC on a nearly permanent basis, given Kizzy's typical tactics. It's a bit costly since it needs another teamwork feat as a prerequisite, but food for thought all the same.

If Marcellano is taking requests on what to memorize, Kizzy votes for Haste. =D

I levelled Adolina a few days ago after we were told - for the life of me I can't remember what I got but I can look it up if needed...

re Harrying Partners - if Kitty suggests to Adolina IC that they start practicing together then I'm happy to start taking teamwork feats. I've hit the feat prereqs for shadowdancer so I'd be happy to start doing teamwork. What do you think about Outflank? :)

Second vote for Haste too :D

So is "Kitty" an auto-correct, or are you teasing me for poking fun at the name slip? =P

I like Outflank, that would work pretty well for us. I was thinking of Gang Up to help Adolina get her sneak attacks in, but that's not a teamwork feat and it's got Combat Expertise as a pre-req. >_<
I took the 13 INT just in case I wanted something that needed it (like whirlwind attack, *drool*) but I just don't think I'm going that way anymore. Time will tell.

Don't worry, haste is pretty much always on the list! Spells are finally fully prepped for the day, now that I'm back from my vacation.

Still gotta figure out that feat, though...I love the idea of having a clockwork familiar mechanically (constant detect magic!!!) but I don't know how to play the story of it...Narcizia's character is such a fun part of Marcy's existence. :P

7th level. About the time wizards need to start thinking about getting through SR. I know spell penetration is not sexy but it works.

Hmmmmm. That is a good point.

Ok, I'll take Spell Penetration this level and hold off on Improved Familiar until I can at least justify it story-wise moving forward...Marcellano's fully leveled up and good to go!

I am back and have leveled.

HP: 1d8 ⇒ 5 If we are suppose to roll.

+1 BAB

No change in saves
+1 Feat - Considering Sacred Summons - thoughts? Other ideas?
4th level spells

3 kill points
Perception
Sense Motive
Spell craft

@Cadas - Max hit points at all levels.

Better read this about Sacred Summons... I'm not sure you can actually use it given that Gozreh is a Neutral Diety. The ones with sub-types seem to all be on one end of the axis or another except the elementals. =/

This feat works off of the alignment subtype of a summoned creature, not the alignment of the creature. Effectively, this means that this feat will only work with creatures in the summon monster list whose subtypes (listed in the table itself) match your deity's alignment. Creatures marked with * cannot be summoned as a standard action with this feat, as they do not have the requisite alignment subtype(s).

Let's see, most summoning feats have pre-reqs... Maybe David has an idea of what should have a Neutral subtype? Maybe elementals?

I think Variant Channeler would give you access to Command Undead. We've seen a lot of those, but I'm not sure if we'll see a lot more.

You do get up into melee with Adolina. Maybe Outflank is a good one for you?

Editor's Note wrote:

This feat works off of the alignment subtype of a summoned creature, not the alignment of the creature. Effectively, this means that this feat will only work with creatures in the summon monster list whose subtypes (listed in the table itself) match your deity's alignment. Creatures marked with * cannot be summoned as a standard action with this feat, as they do not have the requisite alignment subtype(s).

Where is this stated? (link preferably). The Ultimate Magic feat "Sacred Summons" {LINK} only says:

The minions of your divine patrons stand ready to answer your call.

Prerequisites: Aura class feature, ability to cast summon monster.

Benefit: When using summon monster to summon creatures whose alignment subtype or subtypes exactly match your aura, you may cast the spell as a standard action instead of with a casting time of 1 round.

Which to me means, that the creature alignment, etc. has to match that of Cadas, which happens to be TN. So, in essence, yes, she can only use Sacred Summons on TN creatures.

I think that I have seen the table you mention above, but I can't find it.

-- david

OK. Now I am unsure. I was thinking I could always choose animals or elementals but those seem to have no alignment subtype even though they match the TM alignment.

I have my alias updated, except for the final feat selection. I guess I need a DM call for that. Can Cadas, cleric of Gozreh, god of nature and weather sacred summon creatures of nature and the elements? Its not a huge deal but if there is nothing she can summon with the feat obviously she will not take it.

Who is keeping up with loot for us? And is there a shopping opportunity before we go back out tonight?

Where is this stated? (link preferably). The Ultimate Magic feat "Sacred Summons" {LINK} only says:

PRD - Sacred Summons wrote:

The minions of your divine patrons stand ready to answer your call.

Prerequisites: Aura class feature, ability to cast summon monster.

Benefit: When using summon monster to summon creatures whose alignment subtype or subtypes exactly match your aura, you may cast the spell as a standard action instead of with a casting time of 1 round.

Which to me means, that the creature alignment, etc. has to match that of Cadas, which happens to be TN. So, in essence, yes, she can only use Sacred Summons on TN creatures.

I think that I have seen the table you mention above, but I can't find it.

-- david

It was on the d20pfsrd. I usually do a quick search on there when I'm unfamiliar with a feat. The PRD isn't always as easy to navigate. Here's the link.

Apologies if I messed something up. I personally think it's a rip-off and probably some oversight that clerics of neutral deities get shut out on this one. Please feel free to ignore what I posted if you would never have ruled it that way anyhow. The d20pfsrd is NOT a sanctioned Pathfinder source by any means... *goes to hide now*

@Kizzy - No, you did not mess up. In 25 years of running my own home game (ended last fall), for Pathfinder (starting with beta), I do not think that anyone used any book other than the CRB and APG to create characters, and no one was a conjurer wizard, or summoner, and the two druids only summoned "basic" creatures from SNA list and not that often.

I found the tables and the feat in the PRD, but thought that there was another one somewhere, but I guess that I was wrong.

Per the table, there are no "neutral" alignment subtypes, so "by the book" I would say that Sacred Summon is not useful for a TN cleric/etc, however, I do not have a problem of "rule 0" that it works for Neutral Animals and Elementals. The "give back" for allowing Sacred Summons to work would be that you can't add the Celestial / Fiendish template to the summoned creatures.

-- david

TLDR; Sacred Summons works for Neutral Animal / Elemental. Loose Celestial / Fiendish template on summons.

I'm going to be traveling from Sep 11-24 with limited internet access. During that time I may try to post on rare occasions, but you should generally feel free to bot any actions you feel would be appropriate for Robin.

Robin's main combat tactics are to Inspire Courage, Hideous Laughter against BBEGs, various area spells against groups, and Taunt if it's an easy fight not worth spending magic on.

Nice. Then Cadas will take that feat and begin to memorize some summoning spells. Not sure you can ever add Celestial / Fiendish to elementals anyway, but you certainly could for animals. Happy to give that up.

Haloo? David, do we need to post something more before we can be moved forward?

No. Will have a post in a few minutes.

So wait: I don't really have strong feelings about how we approach, but I don't think the Brotherhood is expecting a payment. According to the ledger we found, Vorel stopped paying them for "Iesha's trip" about a month ago, and the note we found on his body says his debt is paid in full.

Of course, seems like it's still a good bet that they'll be there tonight--but they may not be expecting anyone to show up.

I don't recall it that way but I did not go back and verify. I guess you did. Agree. We can still show up pretending a payment.

Agreed. I think people will be here, and that's the main thing!

I'd really like it if we could accumulate those notes and stuff somewhere they are easier to refer back to, like the campaign tab or something. I'm fine with any plan, really. I guess Robin could re-color Kizzy's armor or something. Probably wouldn't fool anyone for long, but I think we are just trying to get in the door before trouble breaks out.

Unfortunately, Kizzy is not very sneaky, so she would be a liability to any attempt at stealth.

Some personal items have come up over the last few days. I will be off line till Wednesday, September 28th. I will pick this up then.

No worries, David! Take the time you need.

Yep, take the time you need, David!

I don't think they're expecting a payment exactly, but maybe we can make a late payment? Cadas was the apple of Aldern's eye, and she could always try playing the role of a recent convert to whatever cult is running out of this place.

Thanks for your understanding that I needed time off to figure some things out. Now, back to the game!

Glad to have you back. Ready to roll here.