All's Well that Ends in a Well

Game Master Choon

No, 50-50 doesn't work for people going into the dungeon. Too many people don't come back out.

Choon, as Cain pointed out... You cool with me copying Maglins spellbook?

Yes, I'm cool with that.

Niki, can you make me a cloak of resistance and a flawed or cracked dusty rose iuon stone?

Cloak Yes, 500 go for +1, 2000 for +2. I can make it cheaper if you don't plan to resell it

Stone No. There's no requirement listed for making a less then perfect one, but part of the requirements for making the stone require being caster level 12

Well then I am pretty much done.
The +1 keen kukri will cost more than I have atm, probably only works because he is going to sell the flaming-thing in the same run.
No idea what Emily's armor will cost, but not the world.
A bit of restacking of food of course (to the values stated in my char sheet).
Unless ...
@Choon: Can I 'use' my full share of the to-be-sold sword to fund my kukri (thus only having to pay the remaining 8000-6000=2000g)? That way I have roughly half my share left for more immediate shopping.

Deducting 500 from my loot to make my first purchase

@choon: Cain would also like to probe the market for anyone capable of making (or who at least sells) ioun stones and anyone capable of making/customizing minor constructs

All I see about crafting not-perfect Iouns in that when you fail a crafting check by more than 5 but less than 15 you get a 50-50 shot at making a Cracked of Flawed stone.

Lol.. So can I attempt to make a full one knowing damn well out of character I will fail due to missing requirement?

Also... Does someone want to approach Pye about selling the troll sword? At least to start the process? Likely less concerned about the buyer then we were with the evil sword of evil

Simon - That kind of speculative payment arrangement will need a diplomacy check and some haggling. :)

Cain - Know: local and/or diplomacy to gather info, please.

...., does anyone in the group have that trained?

Meh. It's not that high of a check. Just go for it. :)

I'll speak to Pye about the sword.
Have some ideas.
Tomorrow though.

Take 10 Knowledge Local is 22, 23 if I can take 10 with guidance

Vuzi shows her 2,000 gone for her crafted headband of alluring charisma, and the money for the scroll of Eagle's Splendor.

Vuzi would like a ring of protection +1 made 1,000.
She'd like an Efficient Quiver for all the wand goodness 1,800 GP to purchase.

Here's some Wand Ideas:
Wand of Grease
Liberating Command
Repair Undead
Hold Person
Silence
Dispel Magic

Thoughts?

in order
maybe
maybe
yes
no
yes
no

If you can use it reliably, a wand of bless wouldn't suck by any means.

Already have a wand of bless.

Honestly I would of thought Simon had a better Mod for Big-Begging-Eye Mode

Yeah, he will get a couple of points into Diplomacy the next level.
I reached the level of handle animal to reliably train and always control Emily, so I can put that to the side for now and get myself some talking skills.
He had enough training by now. Up to now, it's just plain, natural, unpolished charm ;-)

+ I really want to get small at one point, enhancing the kitten-factor by at least 5!

Vuzi shows her 2,000 gone for her crafted headband of alluring charisma, and the money for the scroll of Eagle's Splendor.

Vuzi would like a ring of protection +1 made 1,000.
She'd like an Efficient Quiver for all the wand goodness 1,800 GP to purchase.

Funny story. I can't do rings. Ring magic items require the seperate feat Forge Rings, and I need someone to cast (scroll or otherwise) the spell Shield of Faith (Cleric, Oracle, Inquisitor lvl 1).

Can I offer you an Amulet of Natural Armor +1? I can use Simon to provide the spell component. If you want to be able to resell it for full value it is also 1,000 Gold, or if you don't think you'll be reselling it in the near future I can make it so that it only works for Sorcerers or Oracles for 700 Gold.

Sooo many spells... Copying over the ones from Maglin I didn't have took most my remaining starting gold. Still though, couldn't pass on that

Wohooo!
So, that left me with ~4k
How quick are the locals to enchant a weapon to +1?
Probably not fast enough before our departure?
Otherwise, I'd like Nikki to enchant my +1 cloak to the +2 version.

It takes a bit. You could delay if you wanted.

Given that headbands resize to fit their wearer, could I commission a headband that utilizes an offensive cantrip at will and give it to skeets? According the magic item creation rules it should be something I have to ask for but if made would cost ~1k (500 to craft)

Which cantrip were you thinking?

I am good with my damage atm, Will saves (once we get back to Saracek) are my definite weak point.
So scratch that +1 weapon.
Nikki, would you like to stitch a +2 Cloak for Simon. Upgrading from my +1 would cost how much for you?
Anyway, I guess I want a +2 refluffed-Cloak for Emily as well please.

Brand new +2 Cloak of Resistance is 2,000 to craft
Upgrade from a +1 is 1,500
Brand new +2 that can only be used with your class is 1400 and cheaper to upgrade going forward.
I don't believe Emily has class levels however, so she will likely be full price.

In theory though, I could make a new +2 Class restricted for you at 1400, and use your old one to upgrade it to a +2 for 1500, and give that to Emily?

That's a total of 2 +2 capes for 3900

Given that headbands resize to fit their wearer, could I commission a headband that utilizes an offensive cantrip at will and give it to skeets? According the magic item creation rules it should be something I have to ask for but if made would cost ~1k (500 to craft)

Can you walk me through that math? I would be very intrigued for other purposes, this game and beyond

I think I like that one!

I'll take the amulet. I doubt I'll be trading it i, but just in case let's go with the anyone can use it version.

Choon I gotta ask. I know initially there was to be no pregame crafting, but that was at lvl 4. Anyway you'd let me craft a portion of my starting wealth? I'll live if you say no of course, but gotta try

Your coming in at full WBL, so no, sorry. And you just met the crafter your using, so there's that too.

I'm using myself as the crafter? No arguments though, just had to try lol

Ya! We just met you... like you did... kinda... *ahem...*

Marco Theseus Cain wrote:

Given that headbands resize to fit their wearer, could I commission a headband that utilizes an offensive cantrip at will and give it to skeets? According the magic item creation rules it should be something I have to ask for but if made would cost ~1k (500 to craft)

Can you walk me through that math? I would be very intrigued for other purposes, this game and beyond

for an at will spell, it's typically 2000 times castor level time spell level so long as the item only does one thing and the item does not require a material component

Ya! We just met you... like you did... kinda... *ahem...*

I'm a dummy

I thought you were implying that I just met Maglin and I was using him to craft, which is why I wouldn't of been able to craft up to this point (which again, fine with)

I was. But then I forgot you can craft too... ya.

Nikki Tempest wrote:

Marco Theseus Cain wrote:

Given that headbands resize to fit their wearer, could I commission a headband that utilizes an offensive cantrip at will and give it to skeets? According the magic item creation rules it should be something I have to ask for but if made would cost ~1k (500 to craft)

Can you walk me through that math? I would be very intrigued for other purposes, this game and beyond

for an at will spell, it's typically 2000 times castor level time spell level so long as the item only does one thing and the item does not require a material component

The spell level of A cantrip is 1/2

I see. Its Choon's game so whatever works, but that's priced for 'Use-Activated or continious' wouldn't that mean its going off constantly? I could see Detect Magic doing that though... {Makes notes for other games}

I'm not sure what you had planned other then offensive spell, but wouldn't 'Command word' with 'Charges per Day' be more applicable?

I know it sounds petty but I'm still relatively new to heavy magic use and am asking for my benefit. I realize of course that per this math (assuming 5x/day) and yours the only difference is you save a bit of money, but good for me to learn.

If I'm wrong thought... The implication seems to be that an unlimited use 'wand' for a lvl 1 spell would cost 2000 gold assuming CL1

I was. But then I forgot you can craft too... ya.

FYI... Conversations were had about seeing if we could bot Maglin into becoming our in town item crafter so I could take up Craft Magic Arms and Armor hehe

The magic item system is very open ended and can easily be broken wide open. That's why I asked what spell he wanted his brave little soldier to have. :)

You mean.. I can't use the precedence set here to cheese something later? Choon I didn't know you knew me so well already!

Unrelated... How is the 2 table meet up coming along? It looks encouraged on the other side. I do want to do things but don't want to speed too far too fast if we need to wait it out a bit if this is your plan

I was going for either acid splash or crystal shards
ie cantrips.

one would be easier to access, the other would be more thematic

I'd even accept Dynamic item creation as it is a new item, if you want more risk involved with new items created

I'll read up on dynamic creation. It sounds fun, and the other team needs a bit of time to hack through some sewer/disease monsters.

it's almost strictly a nerf on crafting normal objects, unless the party has a very diverse selection of skills but to use it to enable custom stuff is cool

maybe we can get on that next shopping trip.

in the mean time, does any one in the party have know (local) or diplomacy?

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ah, sorry for missing that
could you roll or take ten to locate someone capable of crafting/modifying constructs and/or selling ioun stones

Yeah, I figured that counted towards that unless Choon needed me to do that In Character?

Might even stall us long enough for table 2 crossover?