The bleed damage from the first example wouldn't happen until the Tarrasque's turn, yes?
I can get you to an infinite damage.
A nature oracle who takes andvantage of the infinite awaken loop had infinite HD.
This oracle is then hit by an attack from an assassin using Death Attack.
The oracle rolls a nat 1 on the fort save, and dies.
This brings the oracle to negative hitpoints equal to its con score.
One attack, infinite damage.
In most cases, a death attack allows the victim a Fortitude save to avoid the effect, but if the save fails, the character dies instantly.
Raise dead doesn’t work on someone killed by a death attack or effect.
Death attacks slay instantly. A victim cannot be made stable and thereby kept alive.
In case it matters, a dead character, no matter how he died, has hit points equal to or less than his negative Constitution score.
The spell death ward protects against these attacks.
Just thought it was worth mentioning that this could probably fairly simply with Mythic. Not certain but I wouldn't be suprised.
Bladebound/Kensai Magus can't spellstrike with disintegrate. Spellstrike specifies a melee touch spell, and disintegrate is a ray. Eldritch Archer Magus could do it though.
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Bladebound/Kensai Magus can't spellstrike with disintegrate. Spellstrike specifies a melee touch spell, and disintegrate is a ray. Eldritch Archer Magus could do it though.
Close Range arcana lets you spellstrike with a ray. Although I see Ken Sai did not include it in the build. Swap out one of the critical feats for Extra Arcana.
It's pretty straightforward to get well over 1000 with just one feat... Mythic Vital Strike.
empowered and maximized Disintegrate
So, disintigrate is a 6th level spell; Empower Spell is +2 levels, Maximize Spell is +3 levels, so you're looking at the equivalent of an 11th level spell. My understanding was that, even with rods, that's not legal?
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empowered and maximized DisintegrateSo, disintigrate is a 6th level spell; Empower Spell is +2 levels, Maximize Spell is +3 levels, so you're looking at the equivalent of an 11th level spell. My understanding was that, even with rods, that's not legal?
Empowered Magic arcana and Maximized Magic arcana do not increase the spell level or the casting time.
Arcana! They can do anything!
That would work with a rod of one meta feat and a feat for the other
It wouldn't reach 1000 damage though.
Mythic disintergrate coming from a orc bloodline sorcerer with the blood havoc mutagen using empower spell and a rod of maximize with channel power, I think that averages roughly 1,102.5 if my math is right.
And you can augment it to fire 2 rays with one spell so... 2,205 from one spell. Which is nice. Requires two to hits and two failed saves.
Bladebound/Kensai Magus can't spellstrike with disintegrate. Spellstrike specifies a melee touch spell, and disintegrate is a ray. Eldritch Archer Magus could do it though.Close Range arcana lets you spellstrike with a ray. Although I see Ken Sai did not include it in the build. Swap out one of the critical feats for Extra Arcana.
Doh. I was even looking through the magus arcana before I posted it and forgot about/missed that one.
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The vanilla game appears to be plenty broken without even considering Mythic rules.
I prefer Spellstrike Gloves, personally. Really cheap! I don't think there are enough ranged spells to justify using the arcana slot.Doh. I was even looking through the magus arcana before I posted it and forgot about/missed that one.Bladebound/Kensai Magus can't spellstrike with disintegrate. Spellstrike specifies a melee touch spell, and disintegrate is a ray. Eldritch Archer Magus could do it though.Close Range arcana lets you spellstrike with a ray. Although I see Ken Sai did not include it in the build. Swap out one of the critical feats for Extra Arcana.
Spellstrike Gloves don't work on rays (like disintegrate).
If we are just going off of the assumption that you only get 1 attack, and that that 1 attack WILL critically strike then I would imagine that a Viking Fighter 20 with Imp/Greater Vital Strike and Furious Focus would be a serious contender. Among other things, Furious Focus maximizes ALL damage dice, so Flaming/Frost/ect Burst are maximized. Greater Vital Strike is maximized, Rage Powers are maximized. Its fun :p
plus you get Rage :p
And then multiply for crits.
Either that or 2-Handed Fighter 20 with a 1-level dip in Barbarian for rage would probably be the most optimal.
I dont have time to put a theoretical build right now, maybe tomorrow?
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If we are just going off of the assumption that you only get 1 attack, and that that 1 attack WILL critically strike then I would imagine that a Viking Fighter 20 with Imp/Greater Vital Strike and Furious Focus would be a serious contender. Among other things, Furious Focus maximizes ALL damage dice, so Flaming/Frost/ect Burst are maximized. Greater Vital Strike is maximized, Rage Powers are maximized. Its fun :p
plus you get Rage :p
And then multiply for crits.Either that or 2-Handed Fighter 20 with a 1-level dip in Barbarian for rage would probably be the most optimal.
I dont have time to put a theoretical build right now, maybe tomorrow?
I think you mean Furious Finish
I can get you to an infinite damage.
A nature oracle who takes andvantage of the infinite awaken loop had infinite HD.
i don't like to digress the thread, but it buggs me.
i can't seem to understand how this is possible.
im asuming the oracle can cast awaken on himself since he can become a plant or animal and has awaken on his spell list. but awaken doesn't work on plants or animals with more then 2 int. and even if before he might have been uber stupid.after he cast it he gain int so after one casting he can't cast it on himself again. or did i miss anything?
I can get you to an infinite damage.
A nature oracle who takes andvantage of the infinite awaken loop had infinite HD.
i don't like to digress the thread, but it buggs me.
i can't seem to understand how this is possible.
im asuming the oracle can cast awaken on himself since he can become a plant or animal and has awaken on his spell list. but awaken doesn't work on plants or animals with more then 2 int. and even if before he might have been uber stupid.after he cast it he gain int so after one casting he can't cast it on himself again. or did i miss anything?UMD scroll of contingency: when I am at 2 or lower Int, cast awaken
Int drain to 2 int
transfer type from magical beast to animal
repeat.
you'd have to find a reliable way to drain your int slowly. otherwise you might get zapped to much to soon and get that spell in while being dead. (3 int still not on. getting hit for 4 int drain -your dead and awakened...). i guess you can look at them spells that drain int as a side effect. or some week poison that you can always fail the saves.
Paladin VMC cavalier order of the sword. On a mounted charge with a lance that crits against an evil dragon/undead/outsider = x5
That is 1d8+58 base x5 = 5d8+290 from the paladin plus mounts str x5 which lets say the mount's strength is +10 for this that puts us at 5d8+340. if the paladin's str is +12 thats +18 x5 for 5d8+430. +5 weapon is another 25 damage for 5d8+455.
Hmm... this might not reach as high as I was hoping for, still a decent attempt.
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Safer to have a spell analogous to ray of enfeeblement that would penalize your score to 1 but not be able to reduce it to 0.
That said, there's a lot to be said for making Awakened a template rather than a spell effect (which is the approach I took in my houserules). Not only do templates not stack with themselves unless specified, applying a +1 CR adjustment prevents you from awakening yourself for the free +2 HD.
Successfully cast Psychic Crush on something with more than 1,000 HP.
Paladin VMC cavalier order of the sword. On a mounted charge with a lance that crits against an evil dragon/undead/outsider = x5
That is 1d8+58 base x5 = 5d8+290 from the paladin plus mounts str x5 which lets say the mount's strength is +10 for this that puts us at 5d8+340. if the paladin's str is +12 thats +18 x5 for 5d8+430. +5 weapon is another 25 damage for 5d8+455.
Hmm... this might not reach as high as I was hoping for, still a decent attempt.
Add in Radiant Charge to gain an additional 1d6 per usage of Lay on Hands you have, + your Cha mod again.
If you have a Cha of 32 then you have 21 uses of Lay on Hands (plus any from the Extra LoH feat) to expend.That is an additional 21d6+11 Holy damage.
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Just idle curiosity from a longtime lurker. I've found some old threads along the same lines, but wanted to take into account new published Paizo materials.
I think I came up with a decent contender. 20 Magus (Bladebound / Kensai). Check my math for mistakes.
The magus is minding his own business, walking down a road, fully buffed. A bored deity summons the Tarrasque right next to him. Surprise round!
With his kensai training, there's no doubt who goes first. Weapon drawn and already sporting his enchanted katana, the kensai makes a single spellstrike attack with an empowered and maximized Disintegrate, catching the Tarrasque flat-footed.
For the sake of the story, the attack hits, the mighty beast rolls a 1 to fail the Disintegrate save DC and the attack is a confirmed critical hit.
The magus has a x3 multiplier with his katana from his capstone feature and casts Decapitate as an immediate action, raising the critical multiplier by 1, to x4. He also spends 2 points from his arcane pool to increase the multiplier again, to x5.
With all that so conveniently lined up, I think the Tarrasque's head is flying off with a massive +1,000 HP slice from his Black Blade.
Without spelling out the whole build, assume the Magus has, with items, 40 Intelligence, 26 Strength and all the relevant feats. To summarize the math: an average ~300 slashing damage (1d8 +8 Strength +5 enhancement + 6 Black Blade Strike + 6 Power Attack +2 Bane +15 Intelligence from Iaijutsi Focus) x5 +4d6 from Decapitate +2d6 from a Bane weapon +720[(+60d6)x2] maximized and empowered disintegrate + 2d10 electric from Shocking Burst + 2d6 bleed from bleeding critical + stun from stunning critical just for good measure.
If the Bane weapon doesn't count as Epic to over come DR, subtract 15 damage!
Maybe the Tarrasque isn't the best example, but it makes for a more compelling story than having a kensai 1-shot a rabbit he passed on the road.
Anyone have...
Can you hit a 40 INT at L20?
Base 18
Race +2
Level +5
Book +5
Stat Item +6
Total 36
This isn't for PFS, there is nothing capping enhancement bonuses from items to +6. It's bonus squared * 1000.
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Can you hit a 40 INT at L20?Base 18
Race +2
Level +5
Book +5
Stat Item +6Total 36
Profane +2
Becoming a vampire +2Aging +1, +2, or +3
Race +2 additional if playing a periblooded aasimar with the variant ability granting extra intelligence
Not saying that's what they did, just saying it's doable. Also you can craft better enhancement items if the DM allows it.
If you go mythic that can be higher. Also if you ditch kensei and go alchemist you can push it into the 60s
Sorry for such a cheese-heavy thread!
Why be sorry? Cheese is delicious!