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I just wanted to hear some of your fun builds, not necessarily optimized but just overall fun to play. I'm not talking about RPing here as much as finding random ways to make different feats and abilities work together that weren't necessarily intended (but also don't break the game).
Below are a few of mine:
Farland, a human Sorcerer with the Sylvan Wildblooded bloodline, gives him an animal companion. One of his first-level feats is Boon Companion to give him full effective druid level. His companion is a Deinonychus named Ptolemy. Since Ptolemy is the ONLY animal with a 14 Cha, after he takes a +1 Int bump at level 3, he qualifies for Eldritch Heritage. At level 5 he takes Eldritch Heritage (Arcane), granting him a familiar. His familiar is a Compsognathus, who grants Ptolemy a +4 Initiative and is MUCH smarter than Ptolemy himself.
End result: A sorcerer with a dinosaur companion who himself has a dinosaur familiar. :-D
Grummsh, a human Hexcrafter Magus 3/Maneuver Master Monk 1/White-haired Witch++ who uses his white hair ability along with Hex Strike and Feral Combat Training to deliver a hex AND a shocking grasp, then get a free grapple attempt, and if he grapples the opponent can then constrict, strangle, or pin them. If he is currently grappling an opponent with his hair, he can cast a touch-range spell and it will be automatically delivered with no attack roll.
An unnamed Pack Lord Druid who takes Boon Companion three times, applying to each of his three wolf companions, then also takes Eldritch Heritage (Arcane) for a familiar, Boon Companion for that one, and Improved Familiar. At 15th level, he has three wolf companions who each have 8 hit dice, and he also has a Faerie Dragon familiar.
As you can tell, I'm a big fan of the Boon Companion feat. LOL
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I'm currently working on a very, very versatile character for PFS. Have a look:
STR 13 (bump at 4th)
DEX 16 (14+2)
CON 13 (bump at 8th)
INT 12
WIS 12
CHA 14
He'll be a half-orc (darkvision) with a host of alternate racial traits (+1 to all saves, +2 to perception to find hidden things like traps, treat spiked chains as martial weapons). He'll have 2 levels of paladin (divine hunter archetype), getting him Smite Evil, CHA to saves, good Fort/Will, and Precise Shot sans prereqs. He'll also have levels as an urban ranger, getting him Favored Enemy, Rapid Shot sans prereqs, Disable Device as a class skill, the ability to disarm magical traps, and eventually he'll get Improved Precise Shot sans prereqs. He'll also use both Weapon Finesse and Power Attack with his (two-handed!) spiked chain. He'll have Armor Expert and Dangerously Curious as his traits.
At level 4, for instance, he'll have the following capabilities:
• Melee +8 for 2d4+3 (or +6 for 2d4+9 with Power Attack)
• Ranged +6/+6 for 1d8+2 each (without penalty for firing into melee)
• +10 to search for traps
• +10 to disable traps
• +9 Diplomacy
• +10 UMD
• Before magic items, saves of +10/+9/+7
At 5th level, might take Iron Will. ;)
as a GM my favorite NPC, the ruler of the city:
Ninja, Horizon Walker, takes as many favorite terrains as he can, starting with urban, and then dominates it gaining not only ridiculous favored terrain bon in the city, but also favored ennemy bonus against anyone who comes from any city.
Vetinary from Discworld is the role model for this.
Then we've got the smartest guy in the room.
Psychonaut/Mindchemist.
Get those pearls of power lvl 5, lots of them. And get lots of awesome bonuses thanks to moment of prescience.
He is how I would make David Xanatos from Gargoyles.
Too bad Paizo made my goblins gunslinger with a large double hackbut impossible. He always shot when prone anyway, so didn't mind using it. He was kind of a sniper with lots of explosives.
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Half-Orc with Toothy racial trait to gain bite
2 level of ranger natural weapon style to gain claws
2 levels of Barbarian to gain Gore(when raging) and Rage
1 level of Sorcerer to qualify for Dragon Disciple
10 levels of Dragon Disciple
1 level lame oracle for cheesy fatigue immunity and no reduced speed from armor
3 levels of barbarian for imp. uncanny dodge
1 level of bard so I can sing of my heroic deeds(j/k probably fighter for the feat or barbarian for the rage power)
Flying, fire-breathing, raging half-orc who can turn himself into a dragon!
The character starts with a 2h weapon and bite attack then progresses to 3 natural attacks at 2nd level and 4 natural attacks at 4th level. With the focus on massive strength and all of the attacks being primary natural weapons he is getting 4 attacks at full BAB each with full str bonus to damage at 4th level. The static str and con bonuses from dragon disciple are fantastic. The various spells and other special abilities make this character truly unique and fun. At higher levels he gains
I just wanted to hear some of your fun builds, not necessarily optimized but just overall fun to play. I'm not talking about RPing here as much as finding random ways to make different feats and abilities work together that weren't necessarily intended (but also don't break the game).
Below are a few of mine:Farland, a human Sorcerer with the Sylvan Wildblooded bloodline, gives him an animal companion. One of his first-level feats is Boon Companion to give him full effective druid level. His companion is a Deinonychus named Ptolemy. Since Ptolemy is the ONLY animal with a 14 Cha, after he takes a +1 Int bump at level 3, he qualifies for Eldritch Heritage. At level 5 he takes Eldritch Heritage (Arcane), granting him a familiar. His familiar is a Compsognathus, who grants Ptolemy a +4 Initiative and is MUCH smarter than Ptolemy himself.
End result: A sorcerer with a dinosaur companion who himself has a dinosaur familiar. :-DGrummsh, a human Hexcrafter Magus 3/Maneuver Master Monk 1/White-haired Witch++ who uses his white hair ability along with Hex Strike and Feral Combat Training to deliver a hex AND a shocking grasp, then get a free grapple attempt, and if he grapples the opponent can then constrict, strangle, or pin them. If he is currently grappling an opponent with his hair, he can cast a touch-range spell and it will be automatically delivered with no attack roll.
An unnamed Pack Lord Druid who takes Boon Companion three times, applying to each of his three wolf companions, then also takes Eldritch Heritage (Arcane) for a familiar, Boon Companion for that one, and Improved Familiar. At 15th level, he has three wolf companions who each have 8 hit dice, and he also has a Faerie Dragon familiar.
As you can tell, I'm a big fan of the Boon Companion feat. LOL
I like your ideas, but the first one doesn't work:
A lot of people overlook that one of the prerequisites for Eldritch Heritage is Character level 3rd, so animal companions/etc cannot take it. :/|
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I have a gnome sorcerer who can't do any damage. He's up to 3rd level, and he's done exactly 1 HP of damage to his enemies so far, by throwing an alchemist's fire. And for the record, it wasn't splash damage. I hit with the throw, but I rolled the minimum possible damage.
Then there's my leprechaun wannabe build. He's a halfling cleric to "Lady Luck" (Desna) who has an Irish name (Seamus), Irish accent, and the Luck domain to "spread the luck around". I plan to always apply the halfling cleric favored class bonus to get more uses of the Bit of Luck power every day.
I'm building another new character now who will be a halfling who starts out Dawnflower Dervish (bard) for one level so he can use a scimitar with his dex bonus on both the hit and damage rolls, along with the Battle Dance a few rounds per day and some low level spells. Then, he'll switch to rogue for a few levels until he qualifies for the Halfling Opportunist prestige class. I'll use Agile Maneuvers to make him effective at the Opportunist's Exploitive Maneuver ability.
By level 6, he'll easily have an AC of 24+, depending on what equipment I can afford by then, but Exploitive Maneuver will make his enemies frequently get penalties to hit him. So he should be able to tank effectively, and still deal out some damage, since all the multi-classing will only leave him one level behind a normal rogue on sneak attack damage until he hits the final level of Halfling Opportunist, which puts him another level behind the SA progression. Factor in the dex to hit and damage, and the fact that he's using a high crit range weapon, and he won't keep up with a power attacking barbarian, but he should be able to dish out some hits.
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I just wanted to hear some of your fun builds, not necessarily optimized but just overall fun to play. I'm not talking about RPing here as much as finding random ways to make different feats and abilities work together that weren't necessarily intended (but also don't break the game).
Below are a few of mine:Farland, a human Sorcerer with the Sylvan Wildblooded bloodline, gives him an animal companion. One of his first-level feats is Boon Companion to give him full effective druid level. His companion is a Deinonychus named Ptolemy. Since Ptolemy is the ONLY animal with a 14 Cha, after he takes a +1 Int bump at level 3, he qualifies for Eldritch Heritage. At level 5 he takes Eldritch Heritage (Arcane), granting him a familiar. His familiar is a Compsognathus, who grants Ptolemy a +4 Initiative and is MUCH smarter than Ptolemy himself.
End result: A sorcerer with a dinosaur companion who himself has a dinosaur familiar. :-DGrummsh, a human Hexcrafter Magus 3/Maneuver Master Monk 1/White-haired Witch++ who uses his white hair ability along with Hex Strike and Feral Combat Training to deliver a hex AND a shocking grasp, then get a free grapple attempt, and if he grapples the opponent can then constrict, strangle, or pin them. If he is currently grappling an opponent with his hair, he can cast a touch-range spell and it will be automatically delivered with no attack roll.
An unnamed Pack Lord Druid who takes Boon Companion three times, applying to each of his three wolf companions, then also takes Eldritch Heritage (Arcane) for a familiar, Boon Companion for that one, and Improved Familiar. At 15th level, he has three wolf companions who each have 8 hit dice, and he also has a Faerie Dragon familiar.
As you can tell, I'm a big fan of the Boon Companion feat. LOL
I like your ideas, but the first one doesn't work:
A lot of people overlook that one of the prerequisites for Eldritch Heritage is Character level 3rd, so animal companions/etc cannot take it. :/
Why wouldn't having more than 3 hit dice count as Character level 3rd? Is an animal companion somehow not considered a character? Wouldn't it be considered an NPC with its hit dice as its "character level"?
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Why wouldn't having more than 3 hit dice count as Character level 3rd? Is an animal companion somehow not considered a character? Wouldn't it be considered an NPC with its hit dice as its "character level"?
I like your ideas, but the first one doesn't work:
A lot of people overlook that one of the prerequisites for Eldritch Heritage is Character level 3rd, so animal companions cannot take it. :/
Character level and HD are specifically different things. It's always been this way, as far as I can recall.
No, an animal companion is not considered a character, IMO. It's not a cohort.
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Why wouldn't having more than 3 hit dice count as Character level 3rd? Is an animal companion somehow not considered a character? Wouldn't it be considered an NPC with its hit dice as its "character level"?
I like your ideas, but the first one doesn't work:
A lot of people overlook that one of the prerequisites for Eldritch Heritage is Character level 3rd, so animal companions cannot take it. :/Character level and HD are specifically different things. It's always been this way, as far as I can recall.
No, an animal companion is not considered a character, IMO. It's not a cohort.
I don't know if I agree with that. In 3.5, when level adjustment existed, then I'd say you're right, Character Level and Hit Dice weren't necessarily the same. Now that level adjustment is gone, hit dice are about the only thing that determines the level of any given creature. For example: if you give a succubus Rogue levels and treat her as an NPC, her character level would be equal to her total hit dice (8 racial, X number of Rogue levels).
I understand where you're coming from in that an animal companion or an eidolon isn't played by a character, they're determined by a class feature, but I still would consider them NPCs.
Animal companions get Hit Die when your druid/ranger/whatever levels - they don't gain Character Levels in the Animal Companion Class. In part because that isn't a class.
If, when your druid/ranger/whatever would gain a level, your animal companion could then take a level in Alchemist, Bard, Barbarian, Cavalier, Cleric, Fighter... etc etc, then yes, they'd have Character Levels and would qualify for Eldritch Heritage.
As they are animal companions and are only gaining Hit Die, then no - not so much.
EDIT: In your example of the succubus rogue, (8 racial hit die + X hit from rogue levels), her character level is X. Her EFFECTIVE Character Level (ECL) is 8+X, but that's only for determining her approximate challenge level. She still only has X levels in a class.
Why wouldn't having more than 3 hit dice count as Character level 3rd? Is an animal companion somehow not considered a character? Wouldn't it be considered an NPC with its hit dice as its "character level"?
I like your ideas, but the first one doesn't work:
A lot of people overlook that one of the prerequisites for Eldritch Heritage is Character level 3rd, so animal companions cannot take it. :/Character level and HD are specifically different things. It's always been this way, as far as I can recall.
No, an animal companion is not considered a character, IMO. It's not a cohort.
I don't know if I agree with that. In 3.5, when level adjustment existed, then I'd say you're right, Character Level and Hit Dice weren't necessarily the same. Now that level adjustment is gone, hit dice are about the only thing that determines the level of any given creature. For example: if you give a succubus Rogue levels and treat her as an NPC, her character level would be equal to her total hit dice (8 racial, X number of Rogue levels).
I understand where you're coming from in that an animal companion or an eidolon isn't played by a character, they're determined by a class feature, but I still would consider them NPCs.
I believe that if you have the animal companion class feature and take the leadership feat you can awaken your animal companion making them a cohort. Then maybe it would qualify for eldrich heritage
I just got a chance to put aside the GMing for awhile and get a chance to play. One of my players decided to run the Carrion Crown adventure path. Since it is based in Ustalav and we all knew it would be undead heavy and that dhampirs are far more common, I decided to make a dhampir necromancer. The problem I ran into was I wanted to make a good-aligned necromancer. In a good-aligned party that is wanting to succeed against undead, a necromancer would suuuuck. However, I wanted to do it anyway. After some research I found the White Necromancer class by Eric Cradle. Great class! So far, I've made it to level two. I picked up Natural Charmer as my 1st level feat. Here's the rest of the build progression. I chose the Gravebound archetype for the class. I picked the Vampiric Empathy and Heir to Undying Nobility alternate racial traits along with Reactionary and Lesser Noble. Here goes:
Feats:
3rd: Spell focus (Necromancy)
5th: Augment Undead
7th: White Undead Leadership
9th: Undead Master
11th: Necrotic Spell
13th: Siphon Spell
15th: Ectoplasmic Spell
17th: Thanatopic Spell
19th: Quicken Spell
Spells known: (* means necromancy spell)
3rd: hide from undead
4th: detect poison and lesser animate dead* (swap cure light wounds with inflict light wds.)
5th: ray of enfeeblement*, spectral hand*
6th: arcane mark and inflict serious wds. (change out a spell if necessary)
7th: protection from evil, ghoul touch* and vampiric touch*
8th: light and animate dead* (change out a spell if necessary)
9th: see invisibility, fly and greater invisibility
10th: dancing lights and greater bone shards (change out a spell if necessary)
11th: silence, gaseous form, inflict critical wounds*, and chain of bones
12th: create undead* (change out a spell if necessary)
13th: enervation*, undead anatomy II*, and harm*
14th: waves of exhaustion* (change out a spell if necessary)
15th: suffocation*, undead anatomy III*, and control undead*
16th: create greater undead* (swap undead anatomy II* with wall of bones)
17th: heal and undead anatomy IV*
18th: mass suffocation* (swap undead anatomy III* with disintegrate)
19th: polar ray and energy drain*
20th: wail of the banshee* (change out a spell if necessary)
What is White Undead Leadership you ask? We homebrewed a variant to Libris Mortis's Undead Leadership to fit the White Necromancer.
Why do I like him though? Not only is the class one of the most flavorful and original I've seen in a long long time, it's his personality. He's a Baron of a pathetic noble house in the region of Ulcazar. The Van Richten's. Yes, like Van Richten from Ravenloft. He's a follower of the Ustalavian sect of Pharasman Penitence worship. Suffering equals enlightenment. He's driven by dark, carnal desires that he fights daily. The taste of blood is orgasmically intoxicating to him. He self-flagellates to purge himself of sin. He speaks in an outrageous Romanian/Russian accent. He's bisexual. He's a man/womanizer. He honors the dead. He believes that atonement for the evil dead is found in willing service to good causes in their unlife. He's very charismatic. He's condescending to non-nobles. He's inadvertently helped our two paladins in the very first session fall from grace temporarily by seducing both of them into an orgy with a NPC. That was a first. He beat himself with a cat o'' nine tails mercilessly several times to unconsciousness for that one. He killed another PC mistakenly for committing a crime that the PC didn't commit but we never found out the truth. It's complicated. He has only two attack spells: ray of frost and disrupt undead. He's a LOT of fun.
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I am working on a build to complete my Huge Quest. It's current iteration is as follows, tracking its strength score on it's way from pretty strong to I AM BECOME HUGE.
Abs the Flexsmith
Half Elf Multiclass Monstrosity 11
Str 16 Dex 12 Con 14 Int 11 Cha 12 Wis 10
Vital Skills: Acrobatics, Knowledge (Arcane), Profession (Flexsmith)
Vital Items: +2 Courageous Furious Weapon, Muleback Chords, Belt of Giant's Strength, Masterwork Backpack
0) Racial +2 Strength (Str 18)
1) Martial Artist Monk 1, (b)Improved Unarmed Strike, (b)Skill Focus: Profession (Flexsmith), (b)Stunning Fist, Intimidating Prowess (Str 18)
2) Barbarian 1 (Rage +4, Str 22)
3) Barbarian 2, Rage Power: No Escape, Dragon Style (Str 22)
4) Ragechemist Alchemist 1 (Mutagen +4, Enlarge Person Infusion +2, Str 28)
5) Ragechemist Alchemist 2, Dragon Ferocity (Rage Mutagen +2, Str 30)
6) Summoner 1 with a small-sized Skill Monkey or Knowledge Bot build for the Eidolon (Str 30)
7) Dragon Disciple 1, Power Attack (Str 30)
8) Dragon Disciple 2 (Ability Boost +2, Str 32)
9) Dragon Disciple 3, Multitalented Mastery (Str 32)
10) Dragon Disciple 4 (Ability Boost +2, Bull's Strength or Belt of Giant Strength +4, Str 38)
11) Martial Artist Monk 2, (b)Improved Grapple, Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike) (+2 Furious Courageous weapon, +2, Str 40)
Light Load carrying capacity with Muleback Chords, Anthaul and Masterwork Backpack: 44,736 lbs.
Edit: And the build is PFS legal as long as you switch out the Summoner dip for it's Unchained version (Serpentine Azatas make the best skill monkeys). Skald couples well with the Barbarian's Rage, but it doesn't learn any of your signature spells, so you'll be more reliant on potions. Sorcerers are nice but they can't cast in the armor you'll most likely be wearing.
I am working on a build to complete my Huge Quest. It's current iteration is as follows, tracking its strength score on it's way from pretty strong to I AM BECOME HUGE.
Abs the Flexsmith
11) Martial Artist Monk 2, (b)Improved Grapple, Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike) (+2 Furious Courageous weapon, +2, Str 40)Edit: And the build is PFS legal as long as you switch out the Summoner dip for it's Unchained version (Serpentine Azatas make the best skill monkeys). Skald couples well with the Barbarian's Rage, but it doesn't learn any of your signature spells, so you'll be more reliant on potions. Sorcerers are nice but they can't cast in the armor you'll most likely be wearing.
Courageous was nerfed into uselessness.
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Courageous was nerfed into uselessness.I am working on a build to complete my Huge Quest. It's current iteration is as follows, tracking its strength score on it's way from pretty strong to I AM BECOME HUGE.
Abs the Flexsmith
11) Martial Artist Monk 2, (b)Improved Grapple, Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike) (+2 Furious Courageous weapon, +2, Str 40)Edit: And the build is PFS legal as long as you switch out the Summoner dip for it's Unchained version (Serpentine Azatas make the best skill monkeys). Skald couples well with the Barbarian's Rage, but it doesn't learn any of your signature spells, so you'll be more reliant on potions. Sorcerers are nice but they can't cast in the armor you'll most likely be wearing.
Wait how so?
Wait how so?Courageous was nerfed into uselessness.I am working on a build to complete my Huge Quest. It's current iteration is as follows, tracking its strength score on it's way from pretty strong to I AM BECOME HUGE.
Abs the Flexsmith
11) Martial Artist Monk 2, (b)Improved Grapple, Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike) (+2 Furious Courageous weapon, +2, Str 40)Edit: And the build is PFS legal as long as you switch out the Summoner dip for it's Unchained version (Serpentine Azatas make the best skill monkeys). Skald couples well with the Barbarian's Rage, but it doesn't learn any of your signature spells, so you'll be more reliant on potions. Sorcerers are nice but they can't cast in the armor you'll most likely be wearing.
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1gg#v5748eaic9tf0
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Animal companions get Hit Die when your druid/ranger/whatever levels - they don't gain Character Levels in the Animal Companion Class. In part because that isn't a class.
If, when your druid/ranger/whatever would gain a level, your animal companion could then take a level in Alchemist, Bard, Barbarian, Cavalier, Cleric, Fighter... etc etc, then yes, they'd have Character Levels and would qualify for Eldritch Heritage.
As they are animal companions and are only gaining Hit Die, then no - not so much.
EDIT: In your example of the succubus rogue, (8 racial hit die + X hit from rogue levels), her character level is X. Her EFFECTIVE Character Level (ECL) is 8+X, but that's only for determining her approximate challenge level. She still only has X levels in a class.
Let me counter with
Hit Dice: The term "Hit Dice" is used synonymously with "character levels" for effects that affect a specific number of Hit Dice of creatures. Creatures with Hit Dice only from their race, not from classes, still have character levels equal to their Hit Dice.
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So an animal companion counts as class levels = HD
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Back on topic, I have a ton.
-Gunslinger (pistolero or bolt ace) with a 2 level dip in alchemist to grab extra arm to be able to reload freely while dual-wielding.
-Cave druid, one level of barbarian, vital strike, furious finish, wild shape into a carnivorous crystal, cast strong jaw on your slam, use furious finish vital strike for 192+str damage.
-Human cleric of gorum. Channel Smite and guided hand at level 1. Wis to attack rolls, with a greatsword. Also fun to stack neg energy channel and vital strikes for one big hit each round.
-Dwarf Daring champion. Laugh as you remind everyone that a heavy pick is a one-handed piercing weapon. Laugh even more when you're adding damage equal to 2.5 times your level against targets of your challenge.
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http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1gg#v5748eaic9tf0Wait how so?Courageous was nerfed into uselessness.I am working on a build to complete my Huge Quest. It's current iteration is as follows, tracking its strength score on it's way from pretty strong to I AM BECOME HUGE.
Abs the Flexsmith
11) Martial Artist Monk 2, (b)Improved Grapple, Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike) (+2 Furious Courageous weapon, +2, Str 40)Edit: And the build is PFS legal as long as you switch out the Summoner dip for it's Unchained version (Serpentine Azatas make the best skill monkeys). Skald couples well with the Barbarian's Rage, but it doesn't learn any of your signature spells, so you'll be more reliant on potions. Sorcerers are nice but they can't cast in the armor you'll most likely be wearing.
Well, bright side is that it's only 2 points of strength shaved off the build, -and- it saves me some money on loot. Now I can get a Furious Amulet of Mighty Fists and get a bit more bang for the buck.
Plus, I forgot the stat points from leveling up so it evens out at 40 anyway.
I started working on a Mystic Theurge - he's geared a bit towards optimization (but only because building an effective Mystic Theurge requires you to invest some love.)
But he's a bit... different, deliberately playing against type. Middle-age with prematurely grey hair, wide-brimmed hat, duster, smokes cigars, typical wandering loner type.
1st level is the Spellslinger Wizard archetype to help complete the cowboy look. I recommend barring Abjuration, Divination, Enchantment, and Transmutation as the majority of your gun-compatible spells are Conjuration, Evocation, Illusion, and Necromancy (and because those schools are well-covered by cleric.)
2nd is the first level of separatist cleric of Black Butterfly, taking the Void and Honor domains, and continuing the whole loner build by following Desna's shadow, goddess of solitude. You'll also have the Magical Knack trait choosing cleric to keep your cleric caster level up. Important to note is that the Spellslinger features don't specify arcane spells, so feel free to use your cleric spells through your gun, too!
3rd level is another level of Spellslinger before continuing to advance cleric at levels 4 and 5.
During the first 5 levels, he picks up Eclectic Training (if using the Spellcasting Guild rules from Inner Sea Magic, consider taking a trait that grants extra starting gold to start with a masterwork gun and to begin play with admission fees paid and money left over to pay for tuition. Personally, I'd ask to make it a feat, because getting such a powerful ability for something as common as gold still strikes me as unbalanced - but man do you need it as a MT.)
Choosing Wizard for Eclectic Training increases your effective casting ability for wizard by one (yes, including spells known and spells per day), allowing you to qualify for your first level of Mystic Theurge at level 6.
By level 7 or 8, you'll qualify for Esoteric Training by keeping up with your Guild work (you're supposed to make 4-6 checks per level; presumably, you're working on writing your papers during the mornings and evenings - alternatively, I still contend this should cost a feat instead for an ability so good.) Esoteric Training increases your effective casting in wizard by an additional 2 levels (again, including spells known and spells per day), raising up your effective wizard spellcasting to your character level; it also increases your effective cleric casting by 1, putting your effective cleric casting only 1 level behind your total level (while your caster level remains maxed out thanks to Magical Knack.)
For stats, assuming a 20-pt buy, play a middle-aged Garuda-Blooded Aasimar with the Deathless Spirit and Immortal Spark alternate racial features (for lesser age resistance), and take S10,D14,C12,I16,W15,Ch7 for an adjusted S10,D16,C12,I17,W18,Ch8 (with lesser age resistance active.) Obviously, you increase Int at level 4.
As all Mystic Theurges, you end up with next to no class features (like a whopping 2 daily uses of a 2d6 channel energy), and if Eclectic / Esoteric Training have cost you feats (still my recommendation), you're also pretty feat-starved, so there's a real cost to being awesome at casting spells.
At 15th level, you finish up Mystic Theurge casting spells as a 15th level wizard and a 14th level cleric. At 16th, take another level of cleric to raise your cleric casting to 15 and get your 8th-level spells. 17th and 18th are two more levels of cleric or wizard, depending on whether you want to get 9th level cleric or wizard spells first, and your last two levels are in the other class, so that your level 20 capstone ends with you as an effective level 17 wizard and cleric (with a 19 caster level on your cleric side thanks to Magical Knack) and able to cast both 9th level cleric and wizard spells!
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A "Pageant of the Peacock"-bard with Item Creation feats: bluffing your way through Golem creation... and actually succeeding!
Fake it so you'll make it.
A "Pageant of the Peacock"-bard with Item Creation feats: bluffing your way through Golem creation... and actually succeeding!
Fake it so you'll make it.
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A "Pageant of the Peacock"-bard with Item Creation feats: bluffing your way through Golem creation... and actually succeeding!
Fake it so you'll make it.
This'll take a while. Pageant only lasts 10 minutes per round expended, so you need 24 rounds to get in 4 hours of work (or that's how many GMs will rule, anyway). And that's on top of any rounds you actually use that day.
I'm not saying it's not a good plan, but it'll take longer than the more conventional route, probably especially while adventuring.
Half-Orc with Toothy racial trait to gain bite
2 level of ranger natural weapon style to gain claws
2 levels of Barbarian to gain Gore(when raging) and Rage
1 level of Sorcerer to qualify for Dragon...
This one reminded me of my bard/cavalier/battle herald/dragon disciple.
Half orc with their mount feat, the feat that let's your AC level based on character instead of cavalier level, take pteranodon mount. Never got to finish it, but I loved the character concept.
Oh and he was mythic, so he was able to get like a +80 to intimidate at level 4 or something.
Half orc General, riding above his troops giving bonuses, plus a little casting.
From time to time I try to figure out a good way to build a Ghoul Blooded Sorcerer who is built around the claws. Nagaji would add a nice Strength bonus, but the it may be better to pick a race that would grant extra uses of my claws.
At my group, there was once talk of a hypothetical Barbarian/Bloodrager/Skald. "He can rage while he rage while he rage!" Granted, it doesn't actually work that way, but it was good for a quick laugh. :P
As far as ACTUAL wacky nonsense concepts I've seen in action, there's this barbarian named Grog who fights with a Merciful greatsword, and, somehow - I don't know the specifics, and I'm too new at this to really guess them - hits waaaay harder with "nonlethal" damage then with lethal. He frequently KILLS people with nonlethal damage.
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I'm building a Gnome Rogue/Warpriest, who will be dual-weilding starknives. I'm calling her the "Desna Buzzsaw"
She's mostly taking the Warpriest to get access to Divine Spells, and some bonus feats.
don't know if she'll be effective at higher levels, her base damage without sneak attack is only 1d4+3
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I just got a chance to put aside the GMing for awhile and get a chance to play. One of my players decided to run the Carrion Crown adventure path. Since it is based in Ustalav and we all knew it would be undead heavy and that dhampirs are far more common, I decided to make a dhampir necromancer. The problem I ran into was I wanted to make a good-aligned necromancer. In a good-aligned party that is wanting to succeed against undead, a necromancer would suuuuck. However, I wanted to do it anyway. After some research I found the White Necromancer class by Eric Cradle. Great class! So far, I've made it to level two. I picked up Natural Charmer as my 1st level feat. Here's the rest of the build progression. I chose the Gravebound archetype for the class. I picked the Vampiric Empathy and Heir to Undying Nobility alternate racial traits along with Reactionary and Lesser Noble. Here goes:
Feats:
3rd: Spell focus (Necromancy)
5th: Augment Undead
7th: White Undead Leadership
9th: Undead Master
11th: Necrotic Spell
13th: Siphon Spell
15th: Ectoplasmic Spell
17th: Thanatopic Spell
19th: Quicken SpellSpells known: (* means necromancy spell)
3rd: hide from undead
4th: detect poison and lesser animate dead* (swap cure light wounds with inflict light wds.)
5th: ray of enfeeblement*, spectral hand*
6th: arcane mark and inflict serious wds. (change out a spell if necessary)
7th: protection from evil, ghoul touch* and vampiric touch*
8th: light and animate dead* (change out a spell if necessary)
9th: see invisibility, fly and greater invisibility
10th: dancing lights and greater bone shards (change out a spell if necessary)
11th: silence, gaseous form, inflict critical wounds*, and chain of bones
12th: create undead* (change out a spell if necessary)
13th: enervation*, undead anatomy II*, and harm*
14th: waves of exhaustion* (change out a spell if necessary)
15th: suffocation*, undead anatomy III*, and control undead*
16th: create greater undead* (swap undead anatomy II* with wall of bones)
17th:...
Out of curiosity, can you elaborate on this White Necromancer class by Eric Cradle?
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After some research I found the White Necromancer class by Eric Cradle. Great class! So far, I've made it to level two. I picked up Natural Charmer as my 1st level feat. Here's the rest of the build progression. I chose the Gravebound archetype for the class.
I actually read about the White Necomancer class and it looks pretty fun. It is like the sorcerer class in terms of cha and limited spells.
Oh, I'm definitely very familiar with the White Necromancer from Kobold Press :)
I guess my real question was about the "by Eric Cradle" part ...
If the OP just got the name wrong, then now worries! But if there really is someone named Eric Cradle claiming he wrote this class, then there might be a wee problem ...
FYI, the White Necromancer[/url] was expanded and updated in the New Paths Compendium, also from Kobold Press :)
Probably my favorite is the one I've been playing since we started Pathfinder with the v3.5 to PF conversion of Rise of the Rune Lords. At the time he was a Rogue 3/Swashbuckler 3/ Swordsage 4 but was re-made fully into Pathfinder with Rogue 6/Stalker 3/Shadow Dancer 1. Still adds Dex to damage via Path of War, has maneuvers and stances, can shadow-jump, and is a LOT of fun to play. Dealing 6 or 7d6 per attack (two-weapon fighting, of course) + Dex with two shortswords is a LOT of fun, especially if I can get 4 to 5 attacks per turn. Plus my DM has allowed 3.5 Skill Tricks, which getting me into position and deal SA a bit easier.
A friend of mine and I are doing some test builds, so she can get more experienced with character building. We are doing them at 1, 7, and 12.
My level 1 is a Halfling Druid (Goliath Druid,) with a T-Rex AC.
7 is a Merfolk Samurai (Sword Saint,) just because I think it's funny.
12 is going to be a Drow Magus (Eldritch Archer) 9/Arcane Archer 3. Nothing too ground breaking. I am looking most forward to the Druid, though.
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The infamous crocodile thrower. Skinwalker, crocodile person. Take levels of barbarian until you have foe hammer and hurler greater. Then levels of packlord druid. As many crocadiles as possible.
Then you may walk around a battlefield throwing crocodiles at people or hitting them in the face with them.
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Not all that effective against some foes, and it'd be annoying for a long campaign - I call him Garland (I will knock you all down!)
Maneuver Master/Undefoot Adept/Qinggong Monk
Vicious Stomp
Bullied Trait
Improved Trip
Combat Reflexes
Greater Trip
etc.
So MANY AOOs.
Note: Does it amuse anyone else that this thread was brought back by a necromancer build? :P
