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I've been having a blast theorycrafting with some of the weapons in SF2e, and I was wondering what sort of things people wish were in the game, either trait or flavour wise.
For me I definetly wish there was an automatic 1-handed weapon. I would very much accept low damage for the fun of spraying bullets/fire/godknowswhat everywhere from both hands.
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I want flexible line and double line traits to return from Armory. Barathu don't have a ancestral weapon feat, so I guess we won't get the shockcaster as a specifically barathu trait advanced weapon. But maybe Galactic Ancestries can add that when they fill out core ancestry feats.
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Seconding Flexible Line. The idea of that as a weapon blew my mind back in SF1e.
More Railguns could be neat. A high tech repeating crossbow. If they ever exist, Biohackers will appreciate some more Injection weapons. Goblin weapons.
I brought it up elsewhere, but a Sniper with a larger magazine (and appropriately reduced damage traits) is my dearest wish right now. Energy variants as well.
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A d12 solarian two hand. D10 is just bad for taking up two traits.
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Attachments for guns like a bayonet, or a chainsaw. I want the gun from Gears of War.
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My beloved apocalypse beam and singularity cannon. I would love to see them come back in some capacity, they were such fun weapon ideas that were on the outer edge of what the system was built to do.
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Multi-amored cultural weapons that require 3 or more hands to use. If you use them with fewer hands, it takes an extra action to use for each hand short of the minimum required.
Null chamber magazines.
Helium grenade. Causes anyone in a 10-foot burst to sound like a chipmunk. Anyone sounding like a chipmunk that tries to use intimidation, critical fails.
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Bow and Shuriken, as it would answer a few questions for me.
That's what a shuriken drone is, no?
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An area weapon that can shoot farther than you can throw things by hand.
An area weapon that can shoot farther than you can throw things by hand.
Come on, be realistic
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Attachments for guns like a bayonet, or a chainsaw. I want the gun from Gears of War.
Seconded. I've wanted to play an Operative who dual-wields pistols with attached knives for close-quarters combat since 1e, like a sci-fi version of the gal in this picture!
I would like to see my nova lances back, please.
Double-seconded! The cryopike is nice, but it doesn't quite deliver on the lightsaber pike fantasy.
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I'm sure they're coming, but, I can't wait for some of the more whacky super-science / super-magic-science weapons from 1e. Stuff like: the black hole cannon! Man-portable rods-from-gods deliverers! The transmutation rifle that turns your enemies' kidneys into stones! The sniper rifle that doesn't fire projectiles, but instead targets bits on your enemies' insides, and teleports them to their outsides! And like others have pointed out, stormcaller, my beloved <3 Can you imagine a 2e Soldier with the flexible line?
(I would like to take this opportunity to say, maybe that could be better named projected line, rather than flexible line? To me, "flexible" implies, like, bendy or curved lines. The actual mechanical effect is still a straight line from Point A to Point B; it's just projected away from the attacker, rather than starting at the attacker, as with a regular Line Attack.)
I've said it before, but, I'm also excited to get some of the crazier weapon descriptions back, too. Like, a really wild super-science "reverse E=mc²" write-up is what made the energy converter so, so, flavourful and cool. At its base it's just a zero cannon; but making it a boxy nerd science project that converts energy into matter gave it style beyond compare.
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More finesse weapons, body augment style weapons, and more themed weapons like the singing spear and singing coil. I want it to be possible to have a cross between the Silverhawks and Josie and the Pussycats.
After someone brought up RWBY in another thread, I'd like to see some Combination weapons. Let us bring upon the age of sniperscythe.
Yeah, give us back the maze-cores! (I had some fun in 1e with a biohacker running a maze-cored injection gun, where one mode was longer range and chip damage, for shooting friendlies, and the other was big damage.)
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Nano-Form weapon. Basically a device using nano-machines that can transform with a single action into any weapon HOWEVER! You must pay a Licensing fee (half the cost of the weapon it is to mimic) and the difference between halved costs to upgrade. It cannot accept accessories, and if the weapons use different ammo-types you must immediately re-load.
kind of a boring answer but... pistols? There are like three martial 1h ranged weapons in player core that doesn't feel like nearly enough.
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I'm hoping the GM Core will include some of the following:
More:
- one-handed guns
- finesse weapons
- professional weapons (LOVE the idea that skills could be used in place of weapon proficiencies!!!)
- Free-hand weapons (maybe some kind of hardlight generating gauntlet, allowing for versatile and creating a temporary shield?)[*}Caster weapons! Be it ranged or melee!
- Simple & Advanced melee weapons!
- More staff/baton-based weapons (baton and shock truncheon were nice starts, Paizo, but you can do more!!!!)
Some:
1) Electrostaff (in case of Nobody's Padawan)
2) Remote controlled weapons (maybe as a balance, they'll be breakable and striking with one would count as a manipulate actions?)
3) High-Tech Power Bows (my little bro loves bows far more than guns)
After someone brought up RWBY in another thread, I'd like to see some Combination weapons. Let us bring upon the age of sniperscythe.
It was I! I was the one who brought up RWBY!
More finesse weapons, body augment style weapons, and more themed weapons like the singing spear and singing coil. I want it to be possible to have a cross between the Silverhawks and Josie and the Pussycats.
"Wings of silver! Nerves of steel! Silverhawks! Partially metal! Partially real! Silverhawks!"
And speaking of Silverhawks as well as Pussycats...
A ranged Sonic Guitar Professional (Performance) weapon would be awesome!
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To manage your expectations, people have already started getting their copies of GM Core and are saying that its strictly GM facing, with no new player options beyond variant rules and vehicles.
I guess that helps explain why it's such a tiny book.
I'd describe it as Gamemastery Guide sized myself but you do you.
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To manage your expectations, people have already started getting their copies of GM Core and are saying that its strictly GM facing, with no new player options beyond variant rules and vehicles.
Fair enough.
Honestly, I regret mentioning the GM Core in my post. After all, a GM book is going to have options for the GM, not necessarily players.
==Edit==
Also, wow, already?
I figured that would still be a week or two.
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An electrostaff definitely seems awesome and wouldn't feel out of place in whatever Tech Core is called.
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I'd describe it as Gamemastery Guide sized myself but you do you.
It's a 70 pages shorter than the last GM Core and 200 shorter than the identically priced Player Core we got a few weeks ago. It's not really a matter of 'you do you', it just is what it is.
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Actually, I think a lot of videogames would be great wells of ideas for Starfinder weapons...
*Starts to imagine gunblades, God Eaters, vibro-katanas, and the X-baton...*
An electrostaff definitely seems awesome and wouldn't feel out of place in whatever Tech Core is called.
I feel like, in general, staff/baton/rod based weaponry is undervalued and has great potential for deeper exploration.
To manage your expectations, people have already started getting their copies of GM Core and are saying that its strictly GM facing, with no new player options beyond variant rules and vehicles.
Also, any chance you (or someone you know who has their copy of GM Core), would be willing to share how the PF2e <--> SF2e conversion rules look in a separate thread?
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We have to see some integrated weapons eventually (weapons that are installed in an armor upgrade slot or 2 and don't need to be held to fire-- damage is usually less than a regular gun but can be a nice option for a character with less arms than a skittermander).
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Actually, I think a lot of videogames would be great wells of ideas for Starfinder weapons...
*Starts to imagine gunblades, God Eaters, vibro-katanas, and the X-baton...*
An electrostaff definitely seems awesome and wouldn't feel out of place in whatever Tech Core is called.I feel like, in general, staff/baton/rod based weaponry is undervalued and has great potential for deeper exploration.
To manage your expectations, people have already started getting their copies of GM Core and are saying that its strictly GM facing, with no new player options beyond variant rules and vehicles.Also, any chance you (or someone you know who has their copy of GM Core), would be willing to share how the PF2e <--> SF2e conversion rules look in a separate thread?
That was the first section I went to as soon as I opened the PDF!
The short and sweet version is that it has loads of advice on how to port classes, feats and abilities between the two games with specific advice on things that may not work well.It does not give a breakdown for every class, feat or ability.
I’m going to port everything from Pathfinder to Starfinder and call it a day.
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Actually, I think a lot of videogames would be great wells of ideas for Starfinder weapons...
*Starts to imagine gunblades, God Eaters, vibro-katanas, and the X-baton...*
An electrostaff definitely seems awesome and wouldn't feel out of place in whatever Tech Core is called.I feel like, in general, staff/baton/rod based weaponry is undervalued and has great potential for deeper exploration.
To manage your expectations, people have already started getting their copies of GM Core and are saying that its strictly GM facing, with no new player options beyond variant rules and vehicles.Also, any chance you (or someone you know who has their copy of GM Core), would be willing to share how the PF2e <--> SF2e conversion rules look in a separate thread?That was the first section I went to as soon as I opened the PDF!
The short and sweet version is that it has loads of advice on how to port classes, feats and abilities between the two games with specific advice on things that may not work well.
It does not give a breakdown for every class, feat or ability.I’m going to port everything from Pathfinder to Starfinder and call it a day.
Thank you very much for sharing, StarMartyr365.
And fair enough. I'm sure a detailed breakdown for every class, feat, and ability would require an entirely separate book. Just knowing there's loads of advice for converting between both games is good to hear.
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More open handed weapons, like a energy blasting gauntlet or a shoulder mounted cannon. obviously low damage, and probably needing a manipulate or concentrate trait to be balanced, but yeah, something like that just screams future tech to me.My kingdom for a wrist-mounted shotgun.
Yang... is that you?
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Yang... is that you?More open handed weapons, like a energy blasting gauntlet or a shoulder mounted cannon. obviously low damage, and probably needing a manipulate or concentrate trait to be balanced, but yeah, something like that just screams future tech to me.My kingdom for a wrist-mounted shotgun.
...You know, the Soldier class would love a Warhammer that can turn into a grenade launcher...
There are surprisingly few weapons with an ancestry trait (I think just the two for the Vesk) so it's especially unclear what the "unconventional weaponry" ancestry feat does. Like in Pathfinder terms the umabiguous use case is "grab a weapon that a different ancestry can get with its weapon familiarity feat" but then we're left with the other case where we're wondering "Is there another culture in which Plasma Cannons are common?"
...You know, the Soldier class would love a Warhammer that can turn into a grenade launcher...Yang... is that you?More open handed weapons, like a energy blasting gauntlet or a shoulder mounted cannon. obviously low damage, and probably needing a manipulate or concentrate trait to be balanced, but yeah, something like that just screams future tech to me.My kingdom for a wrist-mounted shotgun.
Or better a HAMMER LAUNCHER! They will never expect it.