Does anyone take Diverse Weapon Expert?


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


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Fighter Archtype and level 12 needed to gain.

Diverse Weapon Expert wrote:


Your proficiency ranks for simple weapons and martial weapons increase to expert, and your proficiency rank for advanced weapons increases to trained.

If you are playing a martial and have the fighter archtype getting advanced weapon training lets you get to master with a full weapon group and that includes all the advanced weapons in that group.

If your not playing a martial is seems kind of pointless as well and certainly not worth using a level 12 feat on it.
Am I wrong? Has anyone made good use of it?


I wouldn't say its good, but a bow on a caster is a good third action. If you can't get it from your ancestry, and your classes level 12 feats suck, its not a terrible pick.


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Pronate11 wrote:
I wouldn't say its good, but a bow on a caster is a good third action. If you can't get it from your ancestry, and your classes level 12 feats suck, its not a terrible pick.

maybe for me its because I like playing elves and aiuvaran but getting elf weapon familiarity just seems like a much easier way of being expert in bows and you get the crit spec.

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Yeah it seems a bit pointless considering the weapon training general feat gives you expert in martial weapons at 11 and at 12, you could take advanced weapon training


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Powers128 wrote:
Yeah it seems a bit pointless considering the weapon training general feat gives you expert in martial weapons at 11 and at 12, you could take advanced weapon training

Seconded.

Honestly, I think Fighter archetype among others is in urgent need of a reworking with the change to the general feats.
Non scaling proficiencies through class feats seem to be not worth it anymore.


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One advantage of Diverse Weapon Expert is that, as it is a Fighter Archetype feat, it applies to Fighter Resiliency. It's not a lot, but it's something.


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It's a feat that was copy and pasted from legacy without any rebalance and needs a rebalance due remaster improvements into Weapon Proficiency general feat and ancestries weapon familiarity feats. It's in the same situation of Unconventional Weaponry that needed to loose its restriction of "with a trait corresponding to an ancestry (such as dwarf, goblin, or orc) or that is common in another culture" to become more competitive and to lose this undefined concept of "common in another culture".

Diverse Weapon Expert need to be completely rewriten or change to a completely different feat IMO. It's part of the a failed concept of fighter dedication giving weapon proficiency that no one needs and need a revision.

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There was a Gnome feat that, when Remastered, consolidated two feats into one.

Probably I imagine that will happen here, because Class feats are supposed to outrank General feats.

=)


I'd argue a similar thing happened with Warpriest’s Armor in that we have a class feat being effectively as powerful as a general feat.

(I still don't know why they just didn't give warpriests heavy armor proficiency.)

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