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Any monster based on mythology is safe.
Any monster created by WotC is out.
Corollary: If the mythology-based monster's adaptation was created by WotC, it's probably out. This is the really important part, and the part people are struggling with a lot.
This is why "[material] golem", immune to all magic with certain exceptions, is probably out. It's why "unique, caramel-shelled unkillable four-legged beige Godzilla double-r capital-the The Tarrasque" is largely on its way out, too.
Yes, folklore exists about fairies that were sometimes called "drow". Yes, depictions of green-, blue- or metallic-colored dragons were published before D&D. Yes, "balors" exist in mythology. Yes, stories about creatures sometimes called "genies" are in the public domain. Yes, the word "beholder" is a non-copyrightable word in the English language. The important question is, are these names being used the exact same way WotC used them?
This is why simply renaming, say, the drow to "dark spooky spider-elves" is not likely to pass the smell test. The name really isn't the problem.
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I wonder what will be the new face of the Armageddon Engine post OGL removal?
Will it still be most normal looking of rovagug spawn or will it enter the category of "horrible insectile flesh horrors"?
(funniest plot twist would be if it was mythology accurate Tarrasque)
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I wonder what will be the new face of the Armageddon Engine post OGL removal?
At a guess, the next Spawn of Rovagug we see won't be that one. It's probably safe to leave Tarrasque in the cavern it's trapped in for the foreseeable future.
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I think James Jacobs has indicated that Tarrasque will go unreplaced as everyone's favorite Armageddon Engine, but probably won't be used much in the future.
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Gelanitorious Ooze
If the qlippoth are shoved out because of OGL entanglement, I really hope paizo just pull a kyton/velstrac and simply change the name of the whole monster type while keeping the actual creatures around.
We still need a 2e version of the Iatavos, and a cythnigot specific familiar would be really cool too.
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Also mind James' own comments about qlippoth pre dating the obyriths. Qlippoth aren't generic obyriths, obyriths are brand name qlippoth. The entanglements are unrelated to the obyrith in my understanding
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Qlippoth are from from real world religion/myth, I don't know what specific ones are from Book of Fiends so we might lose those specific ones, but we're not gonna lose Qlippoth, the same way we're not gonna lose Demons or Devils as a whole.
From Bestairy 2, the ones from Book of Fiends are the shoggti, the nyogoth, and the chernobue.
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I've always been partial to Gelatinous Tubes over cubes anyway.There's really no reason an amorphous thing should have 90 degree angles anyway. If you wanted a "caustic automated dungeon cleaning ooze" you'd really want it to be low-slung like a Roomba, so it's not dissolving the frescoes and torch sconces too.It should also be able to stick to walls, and possibly ceilings, so it can clean those as necessary. Clear when hungry and "hunting," but looking more like a haze or cloud when it's recently fed on dungeon detritus.
And thus, the Janitor Jelly was born.
If I were a mad wizard designing oozes for cleaning my dungeon of the remains of ill-fated adventurers or w/e, I think you'd want more than one kind of ooze for this.
Like you want the really caustic ooze (that can dissolve bodies) to stick to the floor. So you can get rid of bones and any gear that's not magic. Since when something dies it's probably going to end up on the floor.
But in terms of the ceiling and the walls, for that you're mostly looking at nicks, bloodstains, scorch marks, etc. So you want a lighter touch (some sort of caustic mist, say) for that. I suppose you could make it so the janitor jelly emits some sort of vapor for "steam cleaning" the walls and ceiling.
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Qlippoth are from from real world religion/myth, I don't know what specific ones are from Book of Fiends so we might lose those specific ones, but we're not gonna lose Qlippoth, the same way we're not gonna lose Demons or Devils as a whole.From Bestairy 2, the ones from Book of Fiends are the shoggti, the nyogoth, and the chernobue.
Aww man I like chernobue, but either way all of them were adapted to 2e already so yay xD
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Actually Blizzard is the $2 billion a year company. Hasbro is closer to $6 billion a year. So...
EDIT: I should note, annual revenues for both have down year after year for the last two years...
Hasbro 2022: net revenue $5.86b, operating income $0.408b
Activision Blizzard 2022: $7.53b, operating income $1.67b
Looks to me that even though Blizzard is in a slump atm they are both earning more and have a higher profit margin.
I do think that it's also worth considering this from the perspective of Paizo, rather than Blizzard. Sure, Blizzard might be able to ride out a lawsuit, but Paizo is a very different company that has to make its own business decisions about the kinds of risks it wants to take on.
Just my two cents on the issue.
Sure, I wasn't saying anything about that. Just that I can't see evidence to suggest that blizzard is so much smaller than hasbro.
But to weigh in on blizzard v hasbro; blizzard isn't competing with hasbro, aren't championing a competing license and have a huge fanbase crossover who hasbro would rather not turn on them. Meanwhile Paizo is small next to WotC let alone blizzard, is competing and is a major voice and contributor to a competing license to the OGL.
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I really dont think it is the legal question that is guiding Paizo's current work for the remastery. I think they are being far more compassionate and respectful than the law requires, in that they are honestly trying to figure out what ideas they have developed on their own, or in response to ideas from deep folklore, and what ideas were mostly developed by someone else, and they just don't feel right claiming as their own work, even where (in the case of James Jacobs) some of that work for another company was work they literally did themselves.
It is rather remarkable and I really hope fans support this choice rather than trying to punish them for trying to follow the intention of the law instead of the consequence.
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So I know the great beyond is sticking around - does anyone know anything about the energy planes? I have a soft spot for sceaduinars but wasn't sure if their home was being removed with rage of elements or the remaster.
That is a fascinating question. I would never have thought to question whether the energy planes are going to be kept in the transition. My gut instinct is that they'll have to change their names (thank goodness, "Positive Energy Plane" has never once sounded like a natural thing that a person in the universe might say). Beyond that, I feel like if they were going to shake up the cosmology that badly, we would have heard about it by now, so I expect either they're not going anywhere, or they didn't have any news ready for us in the last press release.
I've said before, simply changing the name of a thing is not actually sufficient to escape copyright, but in this case I have to wonder if 'realm of pure bursting life' and 'empty void of entropy' could possibly fall under copyright without using 'positive' and 'negative' labels for them?
In any case, I believe the sceaduinar are Paizo originals, so they'll probably stay in some kind of void at the centre of the shadow world even if a few of the details have to change. ... Actually, speaking of details there's supposed to be a giant picture of the cosmos in Rage of Elements, isn't there? Somebody go find a screen cap of a .5 second book flash and confirm if there's a black and white pair of dots on it.
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Not having positive and negative energy for damage and healing would change far more than what the Remastered books will cover.
So, I think the energies will stay. And likely the planes too if maybe renamed (Oblivion and Effervescence for example).
They host so much creativity that is full Paizo that I do not want them gone.
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(Incidentally I found that image I was mentioning and it doesn't dig past the elemental shell, but one of the diagrams appears to demonstrate a series of elemental disks and how they interact with the Void and the [PEP]. It's just now up to finding a name as iconic and satisfying for the PEP as Void is for the NEP. So far none of the names in Planar Adventures have quite hit the spot for me like the Void did for NEP.)
PS I find it particularly unlikely that WotC can claim anything on the concept of life energy, though the +/- interaction between those energies and undead is a little closer to the edge, since while Final Fantasy also does the healing kills undead bit, it seems to have gotten that largely because it was originally based on D&D. Even so, I expect very little to need to change about vital energies and the planes that host them.
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(Incidentally I found that image I was mentioning and it doesn't dig past the elemental shell, but one of the diagrams appears to demonstrate a series of elemental disks and how they interact with the Void and the [PEP]. It's just now up to finding a name as iconic and satisfying for the PEP as Void is for the NEP. So far none of the names in Planar Adventures have quite hit the spot for me like the Void did for NEP.)
PS I find it particularly unlikely that WotC can claim anything on the concept of life energy, though the +/- interaction between those energies and undead is a little closer to the edge, since while Final Fantasy also does the healing kills undead bit, it seems to have gotten that largely because it was originally based on D&D. Even so, I expect very little to need to change about vital energies and the planes that host them.
Obviously, the opposite of the Void should be the Sentry. After all, it has the power of a million exploding suns.
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Obviously, the opposite of the Void should be the Sentry. After all, it has the power of a million exploding suns.(Incidentally I found that image I was mentioning and it doesn't dig past the elemental shell, but one of the diagrams appears to demonstrate a series of elemental disks and how they interact with the Void and the [PEP]. It's just now up to finding a name as iconic and satisfying for the PEP as Void is for the NEP. So far none of the names in Planar Adventures have quite hit the spot for me like the Void did for NEP.)
PS I find it particularly unlikely that WotC can claim anything on the concept of life energy, though the +/- interaction between those energies and undead is a little closer to the edge, since while Final Fantasy also does the healing kills undead bit, it seems to have gotten that largely because it was originally based on D&D. Even so, I expect very little to need to change about vital energies and the planes that host them.
...so the Positive Energy Plane should be the Negative Energy Plane as well? ;)
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...so the Positive Energy Plane should be the Negative Energy Plane as well? ;)Obviously, the opposite of the Void should be the Sentry. After all, it has the power of a million exploding suns.(Incidentally I found that image I was mentioning and it doesn't dig past the elemental shell, but one of the diagrams appears to demonstrate a series of elemental disks and how they interact with the Void and the [PEP]. It's just now up to finding a name as iconic and satisfying for the PEP as Void is for the NEP. So far none of the names in Planar Adventures have quite hit the spot for me like the Void did for NEP.)
PS I find it particularly unlikely that WotC can claim anything on the concept of life energy, though the +/- interaction between those energies and undead is a little closer to the edge, since while Final Fantasy also does the healing kills undead bit, it seems to have gotten that largely because it was originally based on D&D. Even so, I expect very little to need to change about vital energies and the planes that host them.
Stars are portals to the positive energy plane. But black holes are portals to the negative energy plane.
Dead stars make black holes.
Dead stars... Or Undead stars?
... Actually no kidding, calling a black hole an undead star is metal as heck.
As an aside, I forget, we're all stars linked to the PEP or was that only the suns of life bearing systems?
No more Worm that walks. Sad.
I still hope we can get a humanoid swarm ancestry some day.
Pretty sure that's from Cthulhu mythos stuff, so it should be good.
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Now I want an Ursadactyl that is flying dinobear.
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Speaking of THE VOID(I really am going to sad if they don't rename plane to The Void despite that being best alternate name used for plane in both pathfinder and starfinder), Darvakka are fine right because they are already changed quite lot from nightshades?Were Nightshades even part of the OGL to begin with? Either way I think they're fine, I'm just curious if they were ever an OGL property.I don't think they existed prior to 3.x? They're not in the 1e monster manual anyway.
But I don't see them listed at the end of my copy of book of the dead in the OGL section, or in pf 1e bestiary 2 where they show up. But that's mostly just tome of horrors monsters and doesn't always include stuff that's OGL courtesy of the srd.
They were in the Monster Manual v.3.5, so I guess OGL.
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It's a bit of a selfish wish, but is it possible to make an Owlcat monster to replace an Owlbear?They just should make multiple monsters that are birds of prey + land predator
Make them all subspecies of griffons. Cheetah+falcon for the speed.
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Make them all subspecies of griffons. Cheetah+falcon for the speed.It's a bit of a selfish wish, but is it possible to make an Owlcat monster to replace an Owlbear?They just should make multiple monsters that are birds of prey + land predator
Building on this idea:
Introduce the Keythong (essentially a wingless griffon) with various varieties, such as lion+eagle (regular), your cheetah+falcon (speed), wolf+corvid (smarts), and... bear+owl (strength)! Etc.
I could see nightshades being reworked into more powerful shadows... and I doubt that shadows are out XD