The advantages of having magic and not revealing to others that you have it seem to far out weigh any advantages that might be had by revealing such ability to others.
I'm reminded of the movie Next. In that movie the protagonist discovers he can manipulate the flow of time and uses it to make a living as a mediocre stage magician. If anything he works really hard to convince people that his abilities are fake. He ends up with a lot of unwanted attention once he gets found out. A person with actual magical ability would likely end up the same.
Edit: If for some reason you did want to prove to others that you have magical ability. It should be done the same way science is proven. In a way that is testable and repeatable and stands up to all forms of scrutiny.
Summons monster IX: the ability to summons a Balor or an astral diva it's lake ppl say " it's a messenger of god/evil"
Create demiplane: one of your party member say: when did you find this plane I travel to all the plane and never come to this one
Yo say: I created
If you are going to be the only magical act in town, you want to be a cleric. Once you can cast Cure Disease you're set for life, assuming you can keep yourself from being kidnapped and enslaved by every powerful organization on Earth.
Also Miracle is hands down better than Wish. You don't need a 25k diamond just to ask for a lower level spell.
If you were a twentieth level cleric with ten mythic ranks who the heck is going to manage to kidnap and enslave you????
If you were a twentieth level cleric with ten mythic ranks who the heck is going to manage to kidnap and enslave you????If you are going to be the only magical act in town, you want to be a cleric. Once you can cast Cure Disease you're set for life, assuming you can keep yourself from being kidnapped and enslaved by every powerful organization on Earth.
Also Miracle is hands down better than Wish. You don't need a 25k diamond just to ask for a lower level spell.
Any god
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I don't know how I would even prove that to myself.
I wake up in the morning to my alarm going off, do I feel the same as every other morning?
I reach to shut off my alarm, does it require me to move my arm? Or does Mage Hand just go ahead and do that for me... save me the effort? Did I make a conscious decision to cast Mage Hand, or do I have the ability to recognize that I casted Mage Hand to shut off my alarm?
Ok, that was weird. The alarm is off, however it may have happened. Time for a shower. Are showers the same for Wizards? I am not sure. This particular shower seemed normal enough.
Done with the shower, put the towel back on the rack. I usually shave my face and comb my hair about now, is that still a thing I do? Or do I just snap my fingers, another cantrip, Prestidigitation, done.
Before I get dressed, I like to smoke a bowl... I find my lighter has died, drats! Do I have knowledge of my magic and just use Spark? Or do I have to dig for a lighter that works in my junk drawer?
Did I prepare any of these Cantrips beforehand? What is going on today? What is a Cantrip? And why would I have to prepare them?
Given that I have never used magic before, I don't know how I would recognize that I am suddenly magical... because I would never use it. Never have. I literally don't know what I would use it for, or when I would ever become aware that it existed in me. I don't use magic to solve my problems, and I don't just randomly try to use magic to see if it's there or not.
Maybe there's a fire, and I have to save it from a baby... in this moment of desperation I find myself, what, casting a spell? Did I prepare it before? Where did this little book come from? Have I been holding this the whole time? Is this book even mine?
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Assuming you have the knowledge you are actually magical (as mentioned above unless your suddenly using it for everything without meaning to) I'd be on the better not to be found out just use it quietly to benefit your life. Create demiplane = extra storage space and a place to retreat to if you do get found out. Clean to clean the apartment behind closed blinds but weed the visible plants yourself. Maybe a few quiet detection spells and a trip to pick up some gemstones you can sell for money and being able to point "I found them there doing this." but keep it quiet and hidden afterall how do you know your the only one maybe out there is another max level/mythic power that got given to a serial killer/warlord who'd want to make sure any competition is dead, religious fanatics who'd try to kill you as a demon or failing that your family.
If you were trying to prove it do it in front of scientists and do something that's not fakeable e.g. regrow a limb, open a portal to another dimension, take them to the moon and let them gather samples, transmit radio messages. Then be prepared for people to say you faked it anyway.
I prefer wizard over cleric myself no ties to a divine power you are a CLERIC and I'm pretty sure gods are going to want a word with one as powerful as you. As for material components one mythic ability takes that away entirely as you can ignore any one of V, S, M, F and if you take that ability multiple times you can ignore multiple of them.
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I'm gonna go against the grain and say that you might genuinely be better off being open about your powers, at least after you've established yourself contingencies and ways to survive.
Make yourself a secret hideout somewhere deep underground (transform into an earth elemental and swim down there, clear it out with disintegration.) Then create a good old fashioned clone bunker. If you have craft wonderous items, create items to preserve clones, and circulate the air.
Now, return to the world, and announce to the world who you are, and start taking payments. You cannot be stopped. As a mythic rank 10 archangel you can cast wish silently and still-ly. And now that you have the bunker of clones, there's nothing any mortal can do to stop you, and anyone who crosses you. You make an example of. You then start demanding payment from governments in exchange for you magical items and wish granting.
Grow extremely rich, become beloved or feared, and just go hog wild. Just make sure you give yourself a few spell tattoos of wish/teleportation/whatever and have plenty of copies of your spell books in your clone bunker.
Edit Or even better. Forget the bunker, forget clones. Steal enough money to make a demiplane, then just Astral Projection forever baby. Immortal, omnipresent, wizard.
I'm with VoodistMonk. Unless you also magically gain the knowledge of the magic words/gestures/etc you wouldn't know how to cast said spells. Even if they were all spell-like abilities I assume you have to do SOMETHING to activate them, if they have the same casting time as the real thing (which could just be concentrating really, hard but I'm not sure.)
Now, return to the world, and announce to the world who you are, and start taking payments. You cannot be stopped. As a mythic rank 10 archangel you can cast wish silently and still-ly. And now that you have the bunker of clones, there's nothing any mortal can do to stop you, and anyone who crosses you. You make an example of. You then start demanding payment from governments in exchange for you magical items and wish granting.
That's vaguely worrying.
Maybe there's a fire, and I have to save it from a baby...
I think you may have just proven yourself a sorcerer with that mindset
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You have a point about the words/geastures you would going by the original post wake up with those so you can cast spells (though you'd be short on magical components) and that would be a good indicator. Better than dying and coming back (default mythic abilities at higher levels) or having some other obvious tell like no longer sleeping. So you wake up with all this magical knowledge in your head and if your not a wizard (fire and forget) you would probably test it somehow to prove to yourself first its real.
Me I'd experiment with shapeshifting since I like that mythic ability and its a nice easy way to tell. Look down "ok i'm a guy test 1, yep I'm a girl test 2, yep I'm a pony. Ok so this seems like its real what next . . . wait ok that's better no more fur and hooves now what's next?" Followed by using rainment or similar to give me appropriate womens clothing and going for a walk to see if people respond to me as a girl or guy as a partial test of if it's real.
I imagine those with other abilities would similarly test it with non losing abiltiies or cast wish then kick themselves because they didn't scribe it to a spellbook to relearn it first :)
The real problem is you have to not only prove it to others but first prove it to yourself that you do indeed have magical abilities and it wasn't just a dream or a hallucination. Ok I appear to be a young woman does the storekeep refer to me as miss or mister and if they do say miss did they acutally say miss or did I just think they did and they actually said "sir our bra's wont fit you." Testing reality from the inside is a pain in the neck.
Just find a bunch of famous scientist and debunkers and cast charm person on them a few times. When Neil deGrasse Tyson says this guy can do real magic, most of the English speaking world will believe you. Repeat with other cultures.
Cast Wish.Just one? why not several?
Had to Wish for more diamonds. Lol.
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The advantages of having magic and not revealing to others that you have it seem to far out weigh any advantages that might be had by revealing such ability to others.Can you elaborate your thoughts on the matter further? would like to hear you out...after all as mythic caster, who could stop you?
How do I know that I am unique in the powers I wield?
Even if my power is unrivaled my thoughts remain the same. What does revealing my powers get me that I couldn't get keeping them secret?
If I want things, magic provides many avenues to riches. The fabricate spell alone would allow me to become a one man factory. Wherein I take raw materials and turn them into finished products that could be sold. Of course magic could also facilitate any number of illegal means of producing wealth as well. None of which requires me to reveal much less prove to anyone that I have magical abilities.
Do I want fame? use of the transmutation spells would allow me to create an alternative persona that is of whatever race, gender, overall appearance and physical skill set that I want. If I want all of the benefits of a famous person without any of the downsides I could literally become any famous person I want to be for as long as I want. It brings a whole new meaning to "identity theft".
Do I want Power? The enchantment/charm spells would make me the defacto ruler of the planet. No need to strongarm or blackmail anyone. Liberal use of the dominate and charm person spells means I can make anyone do whatever I want and they won't even get upset about it. I just have to meet with the person in charge and after a short meeting we are now best buds. I don't need to convince anyone that I'm magical or that I have cosmic powers. They like me and will do whatever I want them to do.
Who would stop me? it doesn't really matter. If no one knows I have magical abilities, much less a clue of how extensive they are. Then there won't be any effort made to try and figure out some way to stop me.
I get along just fine in my normal daily life without proving I have magical abilities. If I've figured out a way to cheat the universe what advantage is there to letting other people in on the secret?
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Load up on divination spells. Knowledge is power,
Load up on divination spells. Knowledge is power,
Step 1, to get your initial nest egg, divine winning lotto numbers.
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Y'all are forgetting mass charm person. Everyone believes you and is your friend.
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The advantages of having magic and not revealing to others that you have it seem to far out weigh any advantages that might be had by revealing such ability to others.Can you elaborate your thoughts on the matter further? would like to hear you out...after all as mythic caster, who could stop you?How do I know that I am unique in the powers I wield?
Even if my power is unrivaled my thoughts remain the same. What does revealing my powers get me that I couldn't get keeping them secret?
If I want things, magic provides many avenues to riches. The fabricate spell alone would allow me to become a one man factory. Wherein I take raw materials and turn them into finished products that could be sold. Of course magic could also facilitate any number of illegal means of producing wealth as well. None of which requires me to reveal much less prove to anyone that I have magical abilities.
Do I want fame? use of the transmutation spells would allow me to create an alternative persona that is of whatever race, gender, overall appearance and physical skill set that I want. If I want all of the benefits of a famous person without any of the downsides I could literally become any famous person I want to be for as long as I want. It brings a whole new meaning to "identity theft".
Do I want Power? The enchantment/charm spells would make me the defacto ruler of the planet. No need to strongarm or blackmail anyone. Liberal use of the dominate and charm person spells means I can make anyone do whatever I want and they won't even get upset about it. I just have to meet with the person in charge and after a short meeting we are now best buds. I don't need to convince anyone that I'm magical or that I have cosmic powers. They like me and will do whatever I want them to do.
Who would stop me? it doesn't really matter. If no one knows I have magical abilities, much less a clue of how extensive they are. Then there won't be any effort made to try and...
Or in my case why do I WANT that attention? I have proven I have magic powers what comes next? Fame, fortune, hordes of people showing up and pestering me to "raise my dead relative, cast a love spelll on girl X, regenerate my severed arm, turn my bully into a frog, make celebrity x do horrible things to themselves because they're a horrible person and deserve it." and so on every minute of the day.
The simple fact is in today's world as said above you can pretty much get anything you want with magic without needing to prove it and if you do prove it you then have hordes of people convinced your the solution to a slew of problems from the petty to the genuine only you can save X person's life. Real life celebrities and wealthy people deal with that based on just their social influence and money. When you can literally rewrite reality you'd never be left alone. Do you want to deal with all those people showing up, photographing you, trying to get you to help them? They may not even want any help but merely believe your in love with them as they are with you they just have to get into your bed so you can show it. Walk down the street papparazi and fans constantly coming up asking for a photo or signature, scammers asking for a signature in the hopes it'll work on your bank accounts.
Then you say something like "I don't like game x" and now your getting bunch's of death threats because "how dare you not like this game." Sure your going to come back in the remote chance they find a way to kill you (mythic powers in pathfinder have not to my knowledge been tested against a nuke to the face and you better have taken the mythic powers making you immune to non-mythic disease and poison because if not that anthrax will make the next little while unpleasant) but how about those around you? How many times do you want to raise someone from the dead? How many times till they ask you to just let them stay that way?
All of which doesn't address the question of why you have these powers in the first place. I wake up with the power of a arcanist 20/archmage 10 once I've determined their real and I'm probably not hallucinating the question of where and why I have these powers becomes rather pressing. Is it some cosmic god just doing inscrutable things as part of some ineffable plan? Is it forgotten memories returning in which case why now? Is it a gift from a demon as part of some evil plan? If it is a gift then whatever gave them to me is presumably more powerful than I am (unless your looking at a good witch comic scenario where they determined you are a suitable inheritor, hand over their powers and kill themself) and can take them away if I do something not in line with whatever reason they have for giving me them in the first place.
Perhaps its all above board and you've been given the powers/knowledge as a gift, your the only one in the world and good or bad the being who gave them to you is going to leave you to find your own way in the multiverse. How do you know though even if there's a note saying "Congratulations you have won our interdimensional loterry where we select some random commoner in a dimension with no magic and give them god like powers. Have fun." they could easily be lying.
For me I'd be inclined more towards wandering and learning as much as I can with my now likely millenia of life and little fear of death. Just stay in the shadows, experience history, visit fictional universes you loved growing up (always been a fan of that old Netheril spell) and if you must nudge things here and there if your in the area to help make things better.
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I like how all this hypothetical power also is leading to hypothetical corruption.
Its easy to see it happening especially when your this powerful. If no one can stand against you then the only check on your actions is yourself.
Its something I've often felt is the reason for the whole aloof, isolated elf stereotype. Its not that they always think they are better than you (though that may be the case) its if your immortal or effectively so and you associate with those who aren't sooner or later you have to ask yourself what kind of immortal are you? Are you the mage in an isolated tower avoiding contact with others because they'll be gone in the blink of an eye and you don't want that pain or are you the type to take delight and pleasure in all the little moments. Just because you've seen it oh so many times before doesn't make the accomplishments of those around any less special this time. You stand and admire the beauty in a tree or take joy in a student making a new friend because if you don't you will become slowly care less and less. The little things matter so much because if you don't love them then the big things eventually wont matter any more either.
Today you dismiss a students pride in achieving something new, 50 years from now you dismiss the misery of that students children and grandchildren at losing their parent to old age a hundred years after that you watch a city burn and feel nothing because they were little more than walking dead anyway here and gone in a moment. Or you praise and embrace the pride in your students achievement, 50 years from now you grieve the loss of a friend alongside their family holding a little childs hand as they watch their grandparent be buried, a hundred years later a city stands because you cared enough to stop the enemy who would have burnt it to the ground and grieve those who fell against you knowing they had friends and family too.
In this case how long do you think what matters to you now will matter to you in the future if you don't fight to hold onto it. . .
Wealth? You can literally create mounds of diamonds or precious metals.
Fine art? You can have every painting or artwork at your fingertips and a duplicate or the original still in place.
Friends/Family? Your immortal and their not, if you keep them alive what about their friends and their friends and their friends? How long till they tire of the passing centuries and want to rest forever?
Fame? After centuries of adoration will it wear thin?
Power? At what point does it just become a matter of keeping score?
It is so easy for these things to stop mattering to you as time passes and every time you decide to let a friend or loved one pass on to their ultimate fate it will become harder to make a new one knowing what is to come but if you don't then how long till you have none left?
Are you strong enough to face a future knowing everyone you love, every friend you have will eventually die leaving you alone to continue on and make new friends, new loved ones? To hold that little childs hand as they take their first tottering steps knowing that in time you will hold an old man/woman's hand as they take their last? Will you shy away from that pain, away from all these bright smiling faces that don't understand to you their ineveitable deaths are not decades away and not worth a thought but a real and ever present shadow drawing closer with every breath?
Will you accept that pain and be their friend, laughing as you dive off the cliff into the ocean, praising their new born child, smile as that child opens their first christmas presents, share their joy as their child gets into that good university, comfort that child as they bury their parents and then repeat it all again with their children? Will you stand shoulder to shoulder with those protesting for equal rights even as you remember the last time you did this a millenium ago, new rights, new people but the events so familiar to you?
To visit the hot springs you used to bathe in with your spouse on the anniversary of their death. As around them is built an onsen then a village, then a town the springs only remaining because you own them and have refused to let them be bulldozed in the name of progress and finally be contacted by those wishing to nake them a historical landmark as history now matters again only to watch the world attenpt to deny unconfortable elements of the past ever happened, events you remember being there for, some you regret participating in because that was what you believed all those years ago?
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Easy just enter in the city and shout: I'm mage
And ppl will turn to you and say: who care
Exactly as the tin says, if you right now, were suddenly max level (along with mythic ranks to boot!) Wizard (or other caster class of your choice), how would you go along proving it, definitively?
Also, how would you deal with the drawback from such a reveal? highs, lows etc...
Proving I'm a Wizard would probably be hard, since all that cosmic power might make people think you're God(or a god) instead. Teaching people magic would definitely show that you're a wizard. Since wizardry is teachable, I would assume this would work.
Proving I'm a Wizard would probably be hard, since all that cosmic power might make people think you're God(or a god) instead. Teaching people magic would definitely show that you're a wizard. Since wizardry is teachable, I would assume this would work.Exactly as the tin says, if you right now, were suddenly max level (along with mythic ranks to boot!) Wizard (or other caster class of your choice), how would you go along proving it, definitively?
Also, how would you deal with the drawback from such a reveal? highs, lows etc...
Things i would never ever do-teach people wizardry
Things i would never ever do-teach people wizardryProving I'm a Wizard would probably be hard, since all that cosmic power might make people think you're God(or a god) instead. Teaching people magic would definitely show that you're a wizard. Since wizardry is teachable, I would assume this would work.Exactly as the tin says, if you right now, were suddenly max level (along with mythic ranks to boot!) Wizard (or other caster class of your choice), how would you go along proving it, definitively?
Also, how would you deal with the drawback from such a reveal? highs, lows etc...
Could be fun! With all your cosmic power, you could divine who would be worthy, good practitioners and teach them the rudiments for the benefit of mankind.
Could be fun! With all your cosmic power, you could divine who would be worthy, good practitioners and teach them the rudiments for the benefit of mankind.Things i would never ever do-teach people wizardryProving I'm a Wizard would probably be hard, since all that cosmic power might make people think you're God(or a god) instead. Teaching people magic would definitely show that you're a wizard. Since wizardry is teachable, I would assume this would work.Exactly as the tin says, if you right now, were suddenly max level (along with mythic ranks to boot!) Wizard (or other caster class of your choice), how would you go along proving it, definitively?
Also, how would you deal with the drawback from such a reveal? highs, lows etc...
Or they destruction example rune lords
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I like how all this hypothetical power also is leading to hypothetical corruption.Hmm what about the reverse of the situation? Let's say somebody right now says that they are a mythic caster and proves it.
How would you personally feel on the matter? take up arms and fight, drop down in worship or just carry on with your life?
Probably ask if they can do the stuff I can't (laws of reality not I don't have enough money or the like) and work out a price for it.
Could be fun! With all your cosmic power, you could divine who would be worthy, good practitioners and teach them the rudiments for the benefit of mankind.Things i would never ever do-teach people wizardryProving I'm a Wizard would probably be hard, since all that cosmic power might make people think you're God(or a god) instead. Teaching people magic would definitely show that you're a wizard. Since wizardry is teachable, I would assume this would work.Exactly as the tin says, if you right now, were suddenly max level (along with mythic ranks to boot!) Wizard (or other caster class of your choice), how would you go along proving it, definitively?
Also, how would you deal with the drawback from such a reveal? highs, lows etc...
If say, it took minimum a decade just to train the rudiments of wizardry to the people of Earth, would you still do it?
Also keep in mind, once you start or have a notion of passing down your knowledge / teaching magic, every world govt and society out there may want a piece of it...they may take drastic actions to be considered the "only" choice of apprentice
I wouldn't mainly because I'm convinced sooner or later the wrong person would learn it and I wouldn't trust humanity with it. Still this is an interesting question for the other classes/side too.
2) If you were a bloodline mage (arcanist, sorcerer, etc) would you have kids knowing they'll inherit the power?
2) If it is wizardry and they're willing to teach would you spend decades learning it knowing you'll at most get wizard 20 no mythic ranks?
I like how all this hypothetical power also is leading to hypothetical corruption.Hmm what about the reverse of the situation? Let's say somebody right now says that they are a mythic caster and proves it.
How would you personally feel on the matter? take up arms and fight, drop down in worship or just carry on with your life?
If I'm a citizen of a town it's hard for me to see a high wizard. and mythic wizard are only story tell for children.
Appart from that no 1 will say he is a archmage
The problem whit bloodline it's that only manifest during puberty so it's hard to say if you kids have or not
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Another few questions for Xarath I've been assuming knowledge/power but not items/materials. However what about . . .
Class features such as familiars and Eidolon's? Do you have the potential to bind/summon them or might you be woken up by a paw slapping your face and a grumpy cat complaining its breakfast time and if you don't get out of bed they'll use the motivational claws on you.
House rules: Could you wind up with a figment, paracosmist familiar in human form chatting in your head as she drags you out to explore this fun new world?
Because depending on those situations the decision to come out of the closet as it were might not be yours.
The problem whit bloodline it's that only manifest during puberty so it's hard to say if you kids have or not
Depends on the game, in mine bloodlines are bloodlines passed on from parent to child so if your an elemental bloodline you know 100% your kids will have it as well. They may not fully express it (lvl 20) but they will have it and the associated ability to do magic. but this is Xarath's rules so I can say for sure here. All we know is full 20/10 in the real world (don't forget you have television and worldwide communication this isn't a DND/pathfinder world).
Another few questions for Xarath I've been assuming knowledge/power but not items/materials. However what about . . .
Class features such as familiars and Eidolon's? Do you have the potential to bind/summon them or might you be woken up by a paw slapping your face and a grumpy cat complaining its breakfast time and if you don't get out of bed they'll use the motivational claws on you.
House rules: Could you wind up with a figment, paracosmist familiar in human form chatting in your head as she drags you out to explore this fun new world?
Because depending on those situations the decision to come out of the closet as it were might not be yours.
The problem whit bloodline it's that only manifest during puberty so it's hard to say if you kids have or notDepends on the game, in mine bloodlines are bloodlines passed on from parent to child so if your an elemental bloodline you know 100% your kids will have it as well. They may not fully express it (lvl 20) but they will have it and the associated ability to do magic. but this is Xarath's rules so I can say for sure here. All we know is full 20/10 in the real world (don't forget you have television and worldwide communication this isn't a DND/pathfinder world).
Yes but not always 100% some time bloodline jump in you example all your family have the silver dragon bloodline for 10 generation but you have the arcane why you ask, because 1 of your ancestors was a great mage (Arcanist, witch or sorcerer)
Could be fun! With all your cosmic power, you could divine who would be worthy, good practitioners and teach them the rudiments for the benefit of mankind.Things i would never ever do-teach people wizardryProving I'm a Wizard would probably be hard, since all that cosmic power might make people think you're God(or a god) instead. Teaching people magic would definitely show that you're a wizard. Since wizardry is teachable, I would assume this would work.Exactly as the tin says, if you right now, were suddenly max level (along with mythic ranks to boot!) Wizard (or other caster class of your choice), how would you go along proving it, definitively?
Also, how would you deal with the drawback from such a reveal? highs, lows etc...
If say, it took minimum a decade just to train the rudiments of wizardry to the people of Earth, would you still do it?
Also keep in mind, once you start or have a notion of passing down your knowledge / teaching magic, every world govt and society out there may want a piece of it...they may take drastic actions to be considered the "only" choice of apprentice
Sure, why not? What is a decade to a creature for whom time is no longer an object?
Divination is kind of overpowered for hypotheticals like this. You can suss out people who might betray you or break under duress. Plus the government won't really be my enemy when you could easily have all of them working in concert with you because...you're a freaking level 20 archmage. Like, you're functionally a demigod. There's no one you cant diplomacy, no possible threat, nothing on this earth that is a threat to a 20th level mythic wizard.
Could be fun! With all your cosmic power, you could divine who would be worthy, good practitioners and teach them the rudiments for the benefit of mankind.Things i would never ever do-teach people wizardryProving I'm a Wizard would probably be hard, since all that cosmic power might make people think you're God(or a god) instead. Teaching people magic would definitely show that you're a wizard. Since wizardry is teachable, I would assume this would work.Exactly as the tin says, if you right now, were suddenly max level (along with mythic ranks to boot!) Wizard (or other caster class of your choice), how would you go along proving it, definitively?
Also, how would you deal with the drawback from such a reveal? highs, lows etc...
If say, it took minimum a decade just to train the rudiments of wizardry to the people of Earth, would you still do it?
Also keep in mind, once you start or have a notion of passing down your knowledge / teaching magic, every world govt and society out there may want a piece of it...they may take drastic actions to be considered the "only" choice of apprentice
Sure, why not? What is a decade to a creature for whom time is no longer an object?
Divination is kind of overpowered for hypotheticals like this. You can suss out people who might betray you or break under duress. Plus the government won't really be my enemy when you could easily have all of them working in concert with you because...you're a freaking level 20 archmage. Like, you're functionally a demigod. There's no one you cant diplomacy, no possible threat, nothing on this earth that is a threat to a 20th level mythic wizard.
A mythic red dragon?
A mythic red dragon?Could be fun! With all your cosmic power, you could divine who would be worthy, good practitioners and teach them the rudiments for the benefit of mankind.Things i would never ever do-teach people wizardryProving I'm a Wizard would probably be hard, since all that cosmic power might make people think you're God(or a god) instead. Teaching people magic would definitely show that you're a wizard. Since wizardry is teachable, I would assume this would work.Exactly as the tin says, if you right now, were suddenly max level (along with mythic ranks to boot!) Wizard (or other caster class of your choice), how would you go along proving it, definitively?
Also, how would you deal with the drawback from such a reveal? highs, lows etc...
If say, it took minimum a decade just to train the rudiments of wizardry to the people of Earth, would you still do it?
Also keep in mind, once you start or have a notion of passing down your knowledge / teaching magic, every world govt and society out there may want a piece of it...they may take drastic actions to be considered the "only" choice of apprentice
Sure, why not? What is a decade to a creature for whom time is no longer an object?
Divination is kind of overpowered for hypotheticals like this. You can suss out people who might betray you or break under duress. Plus the government won't really be my enemy when you could easily have all of them working in concert with you because...you're a freaking level 20 archmage. Like, you're functionally a demigod. There's no one you cant diplomacy, no possible threat, nothing on this earth that is a threat to a 20th level mythic wizard.
Last I checked, we weren't ruled by a mythic red dragon. I could be wrong though, it's been awhile since I've gone outside.
Ok let say not a mythic creature
The tarrasque?
Godzilla?
Pazuzu?
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Ok let say not a mythic creature
The tarrasque?
Godzilla?
Pazuzu?
Remember this is our world those things may well present a threat but they aren't here, at least not that I'm aware of. They may well tie into a hypothetical this is why your now a mythic mage campaign scenario but the question was you wake up with those powers in the real world how do you prove it (then wandered off to graze on hypothetical questions).
It deals with you the person reading this in our world (tv's, computers, mobile phones, airplanes, etc) with no tarrasques, no vampires, no dragons, no other mages (as far as I'm aware). Its not about a character in the pathfinder world waking up with those abilities.
Ok let say not a mythic creature
The tarrasque?
Godzilla?
Pazuzu?Remember this is our world those things may well present a threat but they aren't here, at least not that I'm aware of. They may well tie into a hypothetical this is why your now a mythic mage campaign scenario but the question was you wake up with those powers in the real world how do you prove it (then wandered off to graze on hypothetical questions).
It deals with you the person reading this in our world (tv's, computers, mobile phones, airplanes, etc) with no tarrasques, no vampires, no dragons, no other mages (as far as I'm aware). Its not about a character in the pathfinder world waking up with those abilities.
Easy I will tell CNN that I will use (and really use) a mythic tsunami in north corea and terraforming Sahara desert while the are filming
Oh and I opened a gate to Celestia in the Vatican City
Congratulations the world wants you to be tried for war crimes.
EEUU use 2 nuclear bomb in civilian city's and don't go to war crime
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Congratulations the world wants you to be tried for war crimes.EEUU use 2 nuclear bomb in civilian city's and don't go to war crime
I'm just thinking if you used magic to trigger a massive Tsunami on a nation that had done nothing to you directly and caused presumably large amounts of civilian damage and loss of life it'd turn the world against you pretty thoroughly. Sure North Korea is . . . verging into breach of forum rules to talk about so lets just say regardless of who you hit you've just demonstrated that your willing to use your power to harm civilians simply to prove a point. Very "I will expect 1 million dollars a month or I will destroy one capital city per hour till paid." super villain territory.
Of course this isn't how would you get the world to like you merely how would you prove you have magic and your hardly the only one in this thread who'd use magic that way, so on topic I think it'd work.
If I show good spell people will think I'm a new mesias instead of a mage. If a say to north corea to surrender or die the will launch they nuclear missile.