Dale McCoy Jr Jon Brazer Enterprises |
Speaker for the Dead |
Ki, I think, should be pronounced as "key", rhyming with "tree". That said, my preference is that it be spelled "chi" and pronounced as the first part of the word "cheese", simply because I don't think a Monk's mystical energy should sound like the mundane thing you put in a door.
So you prefer it sound more mystical, like cheese? ;-)
Tectorman |
Tectorman wrote:Ki, I think, should be pronounced as "key", rhyming with "tree". That said, my preference is that it be spelled "chi" and pronounced as the first part of the word "cheese", simply because I don't think a Monk's mystical energy should sound like the mundane thing you put in a door.So you prefer it sound more mystical, like cheese? ;-)
VoodistMonk |
VoodistMonk wrote:Do Monks call Ki by its name? Or is it just an abstract concept, like HP and levels?
Does the Sensei say, "focus your ki?"
Or, "focus your energy?"
"... Chakra?"Ki it's the energy that flow in the body
Chakra it's the concentration of ki in 1 point of the body
Oh. I honestly didn't know there was a difference.
Obviously I'm not a Monk. Lol.
... says, VoodistMonk...
Dale McCoy Jr Jon Brazer Enterprises |
Zepheri |
Wow, I had no idea it was 'key.'
I always pronounced ki as 'kie' (like pie or pi) and chi as 'chee' (like chee-toh). 'Cause I'm culturally clueless. :)
My native language is Spanish and it's almost compatible with all language if you use the Google traductor English to Spanish you will hear the pronunciation of the word
Claxon |
“Chi” is more like the Chinese word for ki. “Qi” is also sometimes used with Chinese, but not sure of the pronunciation. I know Japanese uses “ki”, but not sure what the other cultures use for that word.
Yeah, it depends on if it was written to imitate Chinese or Japanese.
In Chinese the correct word would be (written in pinyin) Qi, which is pronounced as mentioned above. Ki, I is the same concept, but in Japanese and pronounced as a key to your door.
Edit: For the Chinese pronunciation this is correct.
David knott 242 |
The long i sound is mostly still in Japanese. But in English it’d be spelled kai, if that were the pronunciation. I’d be shocked if Chinese didn’t have a sound similar to long i too, but I’m not very familiar with that language.
Many languages have the long i sound -- but they almost always write it as a pair of vowels, not as a sole letter i.
Claxon |
Melkiador wrote:The long i sound is mostly still in Japanese. But in English it’d be spelled kai, if that were the pronunciation. I’d be shocked if Chinese didn’t have a sound similar to long i too, but I’m not very familiar with that language.Many languages have the long i sound -- but they almost always write it as a pair of vowels, not as a sole letter i.
I don't think Japanese would write it with an "i" either.
Romaji (Japanese written with English letters) is mostly for children and non-Japanese to learn Japanese. This is similar to Pinyin which is a similar system for children or non-Chinese to learn the language.
As such it's just a convention for how it was written.
For a look at how that's really confusing, you can look at (the odler) Wades-Giles system for Chinese, which gave us written things like Tsingtao which is pronounced "Chingdao".
Melkiador |
With Japanese, there are a few different writing styles, but I think that "kai", for rhymes with sky, is a pretty good translation of the two characters that make that sound. There is one symbol for "ka" and another symbol for "i". When you put them together it sounds like "kai". "Ki" is it's own symbol that rhymes with key. き or キ are symbols for the ki sound.
Japanese also has Kanji "letters", but those are their own different thing.
Claxon |
Yeah, Japanese is extra complicated because they have 3 written systems, with some words being shared between them and others being exclusive written in one system.
It's a legacy issue, Japan took the Chinese writing system (the traditional writing, not the modern) and used it. At that time the meaning and pronunciation of some written words was kept, in other cases the kept only the meaning but used their pronunciation. This is Kanji.
Then you have hiragana and katakana. These actually make specific sounds based on how their written, while Kanji is logograms (represent the idea/thing/concept).
Written Japanese is really complicated.
Melkiador |
You guys only need to see dragon ball they use the word ki always so you can check the pronunciation
The issue is that Dragon Ball is Japanese, while most of the monk stuff is meant to be more Chinese. But the spelling of "ki" implies that we are going with the Japanese in my opinion.
Ultimately, D&D and PF are fantasy kitchen sinks, where you might grab from radically different cultures when putting together a character concept. A big downside to this is that you can never be very sure as to how something is pronounced. For instance, Is it a "mahgus" or a "maygus"?
Scavion |
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To double up on the Dragon Ball tangent, Dragon Ball is heavily inspired BY chinese martial arts(clothing, techniques, names). The titular character is an homage to Sun Wukong from Chinese myth. So "Chee" is probably more appropriate.
Also Magus is totally Mahgus. Magi being the plural makes that clear to me.
Melkiador |
To double up on the Dragon Ball tangent, Dragon Ball is heavily inspired BY chinese martial arts(clothing, techniques, names). The titular character is an homage to Sun Wukong from Chinese myth. So "Chee" is probably more appropriate.
A lot of us have seen Dragon Ball with subtitles. They pronounce it "key".
Scavion |
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Scavion wrote:To double up on the Dragon Ball tangent, Dragon Ball is heavily inspired BY chinese martial arts(clothing, techniques, names). The titular character is an homage to Sun Wukong from Chinese myth. So "Chee" is probably more appropriate.A lot of us have seen Dragon Ball with subtitles. They pronounce it "key".
So have I. Personally I think pronouncing the word with the chinese pronunciation is more appropriate considering where it originates from.