How do Shizuru and Sarenrae regard eachother?


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


I noticed they are only one alignment step apart (LG vs NG) and have very similar portfolios, so, are they friends? Or at least Allies?


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They go on dates and stuff, it's super cute.


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Yqatuba wrote:
I noticed they are only one alignment step apart (LG vs NG) and have very similar portfolios, so, are they friends? Or at least Allies?

I always thought shizuru and Iomedae as the interesting ones.

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Shiziru and Sarenrae respect each other but as of so far we've not really said much more than that.

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The-Magic-Sword wrote:
They go on dates and stuff, it's super cute.

Sarenrae is in a committed relationship with Shelyn and Desna, while Shizuru is likewise in a committed relationship with Tsukiyo, so this is probably not the case.

It's possible both of those are open relationships, but it doesn't seem at all likely (in particular in regards to Shizuru and Tsukiyo), and even were that true there's no evidence of these two being interested in each other.


I'm pretty sure Magic Sword was just joking around.

Though if you serious about the Shelyn, Desna, Sarenrae thing that is new information to me.


Deadmanwalking wrote:
The-Magic-Sword wrote:
They go on dates and stuff, it's super cute.

Sarenrae is in a committed relationship with Shelyn and Desna, while Shizuru is likewise in a committed relationship with Tsukiyo, so this is probably not the case.

It's possible both of those are open relationships, but it doesn't seem at all likely (in particular in regards to Shizuru and Tsukiyo), and even were that true there's no evidence of these two being interested in each other.

Claxon wrote:

I'm pretty sure Magic Sword was just joking around.

Though if you serious about the Shelyn, Desna, Sarenrae thing that is new information to me.

It is true.

Gods and Magic, p. 21 wrote:
Desna encourages her followers to chase their bliss, find what impassions them, and explore. She recognizes love in all its forms and remains committed to her lovers Sarenrae and Shelyn. She also shares a close relationship with Cayden Cailean and has no reservations about taking on new lovers.

So this relationship is both committed and open.


I feel like the universe is going to have lots of sun gods. For the most part they're probably going to be largely uninterested in what the entities with similar priorities are up to and more interested in what the entities with conflicting goals are up to.


Given that Shizuru isn't listed as an ally or enemy of Sarenrae, she's presumably indifferent to her. They have no real need to compete with each other and less overlap in terms of motivations and goals than you'd expect. Shizuru is closer to Iomedae in terms of mentality, and Iomedae is her ally.

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PossibleCabbage wrote:
I feel like the universe is going to have lots of sun gods. For the most part they're probably going to be largely uninterested in what the entities with similar priorities are up to and more interested in what the entities with conflicting goals are up to.

Speaking of which, I wonder how Nurgal fits into all this?

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Claxon wrote:
I'm pretty sure Magic Sword was just joking around.

Probably, but sometimes people assume statements like that are true, so I find it useful to clarify.

Claxon wrote:
Though if you serious about the Shelyn, Desna, Sarenrae thing that is new information to me.

Oh yeah, as Gisher notes this relationship is totally canonical. They seem happy together, which is nice for them. :)

Gisher wrote:
So this relationship is both committed and open.

Yeah, it's the Shizuru/Tsukiyo one I was more skeptical about being open.

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NECR0G1ANT wrote:
PossibleCabbage wrote:
I feel like the universe is going to have lots of sun gods. For the most part they're probably going to be largely uninterested in what the entities with similar priorities are up to and more interested in what the entities with conflicting goals are up to.
Speaking of which, I wonder how Nurgal fits into all this?

As an enemy who knows better than to shake the proverbial bee's nest by being too much of a jerk about it. He's just a demigod, after all. He has stats that full deities can push around with impunity if he gets too big for his britches.


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I dunno, full deities going to punch demon lords in the abyss doesn't seem to have the best track record ranging from the deity getting merced to almost causing the abyss to unite with all the general bad things that happen with that.

Maybe if they sponsor some plucky mortals to do britch adjusting instead, that seemed to work out fairly okay.

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James Jacobs wrote:
NECR0G1ANT wrote:
PossibleCabbage wrote:
I feel like the universe is going to have lots of sun gods. For the most part they're probably going to be largely uninterested in what the entities with similar priorities are up to and more interested in what the entities with conflicting goals are up to.
Speaking of which, I wonder how Nurgal fits into all this?
As an enemy who knows better than to shake the proverbial bee's nest by being too much of a jerk about it. He's just a demigod, after all. He has stats that full deities can push around with impunity if he gets too big for his britches.

Also they can distract him with laser pointers.


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Rysky wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
NECR0G1ANT wrote:
PossibleCabbage wrote:
I feel like the universe is going to have lots of sun gods. For the most part they're probably going to be largely uninterested in what the entities with similar priorities are up to and more interested in what the entities with conflicting goals are up to.
Speaking of which, I wonder how Nurgal fits into all this?
As an enemy who knows better than to shake the proverbial bee's nest by being too much of a jerk about it. He's just a demigod, after all. He has stats that full deities can push around with impunity if he gets too big for his britches.
Also they can distract him with laser pointers.

I heard Woolballs work too^^.

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We do need to make deity relationship gossip thread one day :P

I mean, if nothing else, mortals keep shipping Pharasma and Desna together for some reason :P (though i still think Pharasma is asexual/aromantic)


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CorvusMask wrote:

We do need to make deity relationship gossip thread one day :P

I mean, if nothing else, mortals keep shipping Pharasma and Desna together for some reason :P (though i still think Pharasma is asexual/aromantic)

Neat idea!

Re_Pharasma:
While I can see her being asexual, I'm not so sure about her necessarily being aromantic, particularly if you take into account the entry on the Psychopomp Usher Mrtyu (Death's Consort) in Concordance of Rivals (p.12).
(One can still be romantically attracted to another even if one's ace, so...)

Carry on!

--C.

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Also she has a thing for elven Songstresses.

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