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I'm guessing that the trailer leaned heavily into the beginning of the movie, so seeing him be a kid using the powers fits there. I'm just fine with it essentially being a mash up of Big and a superhero movie though. A Tom Hanks cameo would be a fun Easter egg (even if unlikely).
We'll see.
As a devotee of the Big Red Cheese, I've seen all sorts of takes on him, so my only concerns at present are aesthetic...
Looks like I might actually like this one.
For a DCEU offering ... this looks like it might be fun.
It has the benefit of being a little like the New 52 Shazam...
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Why didn't they get an actor with actual muscle tone instead of just padding his suit?
Why didn't they get an actor with actual muscle tone instead of just padding his suit?
Maybe the actor submitted the lowest bid for the role? ;)
Yeah I guess thats as good a reason as ever. I will just throw this out for DC since marvel has figured it out but the eye candy does bring in the ladies.
Lol no I say that because I took a girl to see Thor 2 and she said right after the scene where he is dis-armoring and oiling up his muscles or whatever that "ok were good we can go now I saw all I needed."
Not going to argue with 'sex sells' marketing regardless of preferences. :)
Good to see Zachary Levi getting some work. He can do the light-hearted hero pretty well.
So who is the villain in this one?
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The fact is he is kid that becomes a full grown man is what makes him stand apart from the current super hero movies.
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My boy and I were each excited by this movie's trailer. I just hope they don't overdue the comedy aspect of it.
Also, while I think Zachary Levi will be decent as Captain Marvel, I'm more pleased to see Djimon Hounsou as The Wizard. I've enjoyed him as an actor since his very small role in Stargate, although it was Gladiator that really put him on my radar. The dude is gifted.
I like this! This Comic Con actually now makes me feel pretty hopeful about DC (well not the Titans show, but I wasn't likely to watch that anyway)
Good to see Zachary Levi getting some work. He can do the light-hearted hero pretty well.
I'm in the middle of rewatching Chuck right now, and I had forgotten how good he is in that show. The show has it's lulls and blindspots, and he isn't brilliant all the time, but on the whole Levi does a really good job of selling his role.
Chuck was overall good, though it probably needed to end a season earlier. Levi came on to my radar with that and I've paid attention to his career since.
The key take away for me watching it right now is that at least with a similar character (goofy, good natured, heroic), Levi has the charm to anchor a movie like this, and to do it fairly well.
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I am sure the movie will be entertaining but this is Shazam after all so anyone that is expecting master piece theater or a dark gritty comic book movie will(and should) be disappointed:)
That didn't actually excite me. The take that Shazams superhero identity keeps being a child feels off, but than I am not too familiar with him. Maybe this is just what the kids need today.The fact is he is kid that becomes a full grown man is what makes him stand apart from the current super hero movies.That is the basic premise. Still I don't remember it usually being the "child in an adult (superpowered) body" thing they seem to be going with here, but of being more mature in the Captain Marvel form. "Wisdom of Solomon" and all that.
The Billy Batson form being a kid and the Captain Marvel form being more of an adult version of Billy Batson than we seem to be seeing here. It might well be that it won't be emphasized as much as it was in this trailer.
A lot of writers have had a really tough time finding that 'hero with a child's mind/mentality/morals' and 'Wisdom of Solomon'. Anytime they lean too far in either direction they lose something special.
Cap needs to have that 'Holey Moley' attitude and awe of a child with god-like powers just to separate him from Superman.
I'm not 100% sure they'll nail it here... but I'm loving the trailer so far. With the way DCEU has been going, if they need to overcompensate towards fun and silly than more power to them.
I haven't follwed the various iterations of Captain Marvel/Billy Batson closely, but it's always been my impression that the comics were consistent about making them the same person, unlike another Captain Marvel who would swap places with Rick Jones.
In pre-52 JSA Billy had a thing for Stargirl, even when in "adult" form. Jay Garrick -- not knowing about Billy's actual age -- found that inappropriate and confronted Captain M about it. Marvel left the JSA and stopped seeing Courtney rather than reveal his secret. Always thought that was a mistake.
Not a shazam fan, always found him a bit...ridiculous. Glad fans are getting a movie though.
I haven't follwed the various iterations of Captain Marvel/Billy Batson closely, but it's always been my impression that the comics were consistent about making them the same person, unlike another Captain Marvel who would swap places with Rick Jones.
In pre-52 JSA Billy had a thing for Stargirl, even when in "adult" form. Jay Garrick -- not knowing about Billy's actual age -- found that inappropriate and confronted Captain M about it. Marvel left the JSA and stopped seeing Courtney rather than reveal his secret. Always thought that was a mistake.
I'm currently rereading the Power of Shazam from the 90's and that's pretty much how it's done. Captain Marvel's name was pulled from Billy's subconscious... His form is an idealized version of Billy's dead father... his mind is 100% Billy with the occassional 'whispering' of Solomon's wisdom.
In fact I never really read any golden/slver age SHAZAM stuff, but post-Crisis they've been really consistent about Billy and Cap having the same mind. I never even heard about them 'switching places', before Frank Miller brought it up in Dark Knight Strikes Back....
Hell, Kingdom Come got some excellent mileage out of the fact that a grown-up Billy Batson and the Captain were indistinguishable.
What this trailer doesn't reflect is that for most of his career, Billy's been a pretty serious guy...
The posters were rather nice with one being Marvel visiting some sick kids and playing tic-tac-toe. A little down to earth stuff is great
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Yep, it’s not pig-headedness, DC cannot legally use the name.
Right or wrong, I’m just saying this thread is about the trailer for the Shazam movie, so using the name Captain Marvel is bound to confuse folks. Shazam is not a main stream character by any shot, so most people don’t know that much about him (heck, I’ll bet many people only vaugely remember the 70’s TV show ... which also never used Captain Marvel, did they?)
Most people DO know there is a major Captain Marvel movie coming out very soon however, so it seems worth while to avoid ‘incorrectly’ saying Captain Marvel’ in this thread ...
Just an observation
And since there is another movie being released around the same with the name Captain Marvel, it's not a good marketing strategy to confuse viewers as to whether or not your movie is part of a more prolific franchise (or worse, have them think you trying to cash in on that franchise...).
<shrug>
Will most likely watch it!
:p
--C.
Hmm...
It should read "...around the same time with the name..." & "...have them think you are trying to cash in..." in the post above.
Oh, well.
Carry on, I guess,
--C.
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One of the weirdest things I read about Shazam was that his time as Captain Marvel doesn't count toward's Billy's physical age.
Weird little details like that I always find neat
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I know about the legal reasons. It's still wrong. Seriously, if I founded Super Comics and somehow managed to outsell Marvel and DC and wrangled my own Superman to be the only legally acceptable character of that name, it would be wrong.
The only Captain Marvel worth speaking of is Billy Batson.Which this movie doesn't seem to be able to manage properly.
1. There is no way you can possibly know that from 2 2 minute trailers.
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Agreed. If this Shazam movie, or Marvel's Captain Marvel, already irritate you this much and they haven't even premiered, maybe it would be best to entirely avoid discussions about both of them.
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I am a bit (but only a bit) baffled as to why suddenly a bunch of folks are up in arms about rights that were lost decades ago--many of whom weren't even born when all this stuff happened. Fawcett's Captain Marvel goes back to 1939, and ceased publication in 1953 due, in part, to the copyright strike. It was mostly forgotten when Marvel began publishing comics with Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell) in 1967 (Carol Danvers as a character appeared in 1968, but didn't get her powers until later and of course didn't take on the mantle until the 21st Century, but there have been many Captain Marvels before her in Marvel comics). DC Comics didn't acquire the license to the Fawcett Captain Marvel and the Shazam family until a few years later in 1972; and they published his stories in a comic book called "Shazam!" They didn't get the full rights until 1991. And so for many fans of the Shazam family, they never were even introduced to them or heard of them until after Marvel's Captain Marvel was well established. It's a shame it gets so confusing, but it's an issue that is literally older than I am and probably most people in this forum. Was there huge "that's not Billy Batson!" fallout when Monica Rambeau became Marvel's Captain Marvel in 1982?
But Bjorn, I don't wanna make you feel sat on or anything. I got a question for you: since you're a big Billy Batson fan, can you please recommend some good recent comics with him and the Shazam family in it (Mary, Freddy, etc.)? I've picked up a few things with them in it from time to time, but I don't think I've read a lengthy storyline involving Billy since War of the Gods way back in the early 90s (which now that I think of it must have come out to celebrate/landmark DC's full acquisition of the rights).
Would be cool to catch up on what they've been up to in the comics before seeing the film when it comes out. Thanks in advance.
I am a bit (but only a bit) baffled as to why suddenly a bunch of folks are up in arms about rights that were lost decades ago--many of whom weren't even born when all this stuff happened. Fawcett's Captain Marvel goes back to 1939, and ceased publication in 1953 due, in part, to the copyright strike. It was mostly forgotten when Marvel began publishing comics with Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell) in 1967 (Carol Danvers as a character appeared in 1968, but didn't get her powers until later and of course didn't take on the mantle until the 21st Century, but there have been many Captain Marvels before her in Marvel comics). DC Comics didn't acquire the license to the Fawcett Captain Marvel and the Shazam family until a few years later in 1972; and they published his stories in a comic book called "Shazam!" They didn't get the full rights until 1991. And so for many fans of the Shazam family, they never were even introduced to them or heard of them until after Marvel's Captain Marvel was well established. It's a shame it gets so confusing, but it's an issue that is literally older than I am and probably most people in this forum. Was there huge "that's not Billy Batson!" fallout when Monica Rambeau became Marvel's Captain Marvel in 1982?
But Bjorn, I don't wanna make you feel sat on or anything. I got a question for you: since you're a big Billy Batson fan, can you please recommend some good recent comics with him and the Shazam family in it (Mary, Freddy, etc.)? I've picked up a few things with them in it from time to time, but I don't think I've read a lengthy storyline involving Billy since War of the Gods way back in the early 90s (which now that I think of it must have come out to celebrate/landmark DC's full acquisition of the rights).
Would be cool to catch up on what they've been up to in the comics before seeing the film when it comes out. Thanks in advance.
as I mentioned in another thread, there are some people who are STILL fighting this old battle, and have very strong feelings on the issue. Not sure as to why, but as a native brooklynite, both companies have become a part of local lore with respect to how awful they can be in court.
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For me, the real tragedy of the whole Captain marvel name dispute... is that I generally like the characters that end up with the name, irrespective of which company. I'll admit I regard Billy as a personal favorite (I also like him better than Superman on just about every level), and he'll always be Captain Marvel to me, but... the ship on the exclusivity of the name has long, long since sailed.
Billy Batson
Mar-Vell
Monica Rambeau
Genis-Vell
Phyla-Vell
Khn'nr - My least favorite. Also the one with the shortest lifespan.
Noh-Varr
Carol Danvers
All have their moments... I even like the knockoffs, like Michael Moran (Marvelman/Miracleman) once he got all postmodern and 1980s Alan Moore-d.