I also have an issue with Deadly Aim, mainly the name. Think about it. a penalty to attack from something called Deadly Aim. So, what, aiming makes things harder to hit? I would have called it burst fire or an overcharge shot for energy weapons or something.
You aim at a vulnerable spot on the enemy. Hitting the enemy on that spot is harder (thus the penalty), but nets you more damage if you hit.
I agree that the Medicine skill could be... better.
I think most of these became feats because according to the designers they tried to have less "must have" feats and whole build feat trees. That opens up a lot of feats for "special actions" like the ones you pointed out.
Also, putting Kip Up into Acrobatics would probably just lead to everyone putting skill ranks int Acrobatics... I find it nicer to take a feat once and be able to do it, than to feel pressured into having Acrobatics ranks.
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Just to point out,
A) Barricade lets you get cover anywhere, not just if a table is nearby.
B) Harrassing/Covering Fire are actions anyone can do. The Suppresive Fire Feat just makes you a lot better at them.
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There's minimal to no overlap with Profession and Engineering. The former is your job. The latter means your good with machines. Profession has always overlapped with other skills depending on what exactly your Profession is.
Rysky, I don't see any "Normal: " on suppressive fire, so the feat asserts that no, you have to have the feat to do it.
Suppesive Fire says pick Covering Fire or Harrying Fire as an action.
Are there rules for covering fire and harrying fire in the Feat?
No.
The rules for those combat options are on p. 246-247. You do not need the Feat to do them, it just makes you better at them.
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why are the DC for Stunts and crew actions all
15 + 2 x tier
or
10 + 2 x tier
or
20 + 2 x tier
????
would that not just be 17,12,and 22 x tier??
or am i missing some information that alters the DC some how??
Nope, basic order of operations from high school math says that if there are no parenthesis, you multiply before you add. If we add parenthesis to explain this,
15 + 2 x tier = 15 + (2 x tier)
Those additions of 2 x tier and 3 x tier are enough of an issue when multiplying first, as there seems to be no reliable way to get per level skill bonus increases of those magnitudes reliably.
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I love when people make new threads about things that are already being discussed on other threads. double post. It's awesome.
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uii8?Feats-that-should-not-be-feats
If you don't like something don't use it.
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Without the gratuitous sarcasm, here's the actual link to the relevant thread
Oh and by the way...
Sky Jockey. Again, no. Stop it. Let this just be a higher DC in the piloting skill. There is no reason for this to be a feat.
I am actually getting this feat! I made a Bounty Hunter Soldier that uses JetPacks. I have seen a lot of people on the boards sh*t on things they don't find useful but this is a big book. If you don't like something someone else might.
I'll admit Barricade would just be a skill check in any game I play but chill on the negativity.
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My issues:
1) No mechs: They don't present a humanoid-shaped starship frame. HOWEVER, considering that damage scaling with size has been either changed or removed, they... might be keeping it for a separate booklet in order to compile mech-exclusive weapons. Hey, your lvl20 weapon might be no match for a mech's lvl20 weapon if it's 10 times its normal size.
2) Weapon level: I get the idea, but I can't get over the minimal amount of low-level weapons. I feel like the game should add an "upgrade" crafting system that increases a weapon's level and its attribute, in order to elevate the level gap between weapons.
3) Two-Weapon Fighting being gone: You can make a full attack for 2 attack rolls... with either the same weapon or 2 different weapons... Yeah... kinda pointless... What's annoying is that the kasathas BARELY have options to make 4 attacks during a full attack. Call it OP it was available, but still... I get that iterative attacks are gone, but they should have kept the ability to make one attack per wield weapon.
4) The solarian's attunement takes longer to get as you level up: I would revampt the attunement mecanic that you would gain a point per round you stay attuned and that each revelation costs points to use. Since you also "have to" select revelations from both photon and graviton, you need one more round per opposed revelation to become attuned.
4) The solarian's attunement takes longer to get as you level up: I would revampt the attunement mecanic that you would gain a point per round you stay attuned and that each revelation costs points to use. Since you also "have to" select revelations from both photon and graviton, you need one more round per opposed revelation to become attuned.
No it doesn't.
You're attuned at 1 point and fully attuned at 3. The number for full atonement only increases to 4 if you have 2 more of one type of Revelation than the other.
So having 4 Photon/3 Graviton Revelations and you are fine, but having 5 Photon/3 Graviton Revelations means you need 4 points for full atonement.
4) The solarian's attunement takes longer to get as you level up: I would revampt the attunement mecanic that you would gain a point per round you stay attuned and that each revelation costs points to use. Since you also "have to" select revelations from both photon and graviton, you need one more round per opposed revelation to become attuned.No it doesn't.
You're attuned at 1 point and fully attuned at 3. The number for full atonement only increases to 4 if you have 2 more of one type of Revelation than the other.
So having 4 Photon/3 Graviton Revelations and you are fine, but having 5 Photon/3 Graviton Revelations means you need 4 points for full atonement.
Yeah... kinda misread that :P
Kinda weird that a solarian has to pick both sides. Ok, fine, there isn't many revelations per side, but still...
4) The solarian's attunement takes longer to get as you level up: I would revampt the attunement mecanic that you would gain a point per round you stay attuned and that each revelation costs points to use. Since you also "have to" select revelations from both photon and graviton, you need one more round per opposed revelation to become attuned.No it doesn't.
You're attuned at 1 point and fully attuned at 3. The number for full atonement only increases to 4 if you have 2 more of one type of Revelation than the other.
So having 4 Photon/3 Graviton Revelations and you are fine, but having 5 Photon/3 Graviton Revelations means you need 4 points for full atonement.
Yeah... kinda misread that :P
Kinda weird that a solarian has to pick both sides. Ok, fine, there isn't many revelations per side, but still...
They all about Balance and stuff.
Space stuff.
My issues:
1) No mechs: They don't present a humanoid-shaped starship frame. HOWEVER, considering that damage scaling with size has been either changed or removed, they... might be keeping it for a separate booklet in order to compile mech-exclusive weapons. Hey, your lvl20 weapon might be no match for a mech's lvl20 weapon if it's 10 times its normal size.
The book is already 524 pages. They have talked about expansions.
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my question with Barricade is :
it's got hit points and hardness, but if it (or an adjacent creature) is just "hit" by an attack, it collapses in 1d4 turns?
so... if you deal 1 point of damage to a barricade with 5 + X HP - or to someone standing next to the barricade... it collapses in 1d4 turns no matter what?
Yep.
Yep.so... why go through the problem of writing out that it has hit points?
The difference between going down this round or 1d4 rounds later.
Edit: ninjaed.
My issues:
1) No mechs: They don't present a humanoid-shaped starship frame. HOWEVER, considering that damage scaling with size has been either changed or removed, they... might be keeping it for a separate booklet in order to compile mech-exclusive weapons. Hey, your lvl20 weapon might be no match for a mech's lvl20 weapon if it's 10 times its normal size.
The book is already 524 pages. They have talked about expansions.
I was hoping for at least one starship frame based on a mech, until I noticed that the damage scaling for weapons isn't in Starfinder. I basically retracted that idea.
Yeah, good luck being menacing with a Huge mech with a 1d4 pistol XD
My issues:
1) No mechs: They don't present a humanoid-shaped starship frame. HOWEVER, considering that damage scaling with size has been either changed or removed, they... might be keeping it for a separate booklet in order to compile mech-exclusive weapons. Hey, your lvl20 weapon might be no match for a mech's lvl20 weapon if it's 10 times its normal size.
The book is already 524 pages. They have talked about expansions.
I was hoping for at least one starship frame based on a mech, until I noticed that the damage scaling for weapons isn't in Starfinder. I basically retracted that idea.
Yeah, good luck being menacing with a Huge mech with a 1d4 pistol XD
Well how often are you going to be chased by a ship with it shooting at you? Just figure one shot from a spaceship is instadeath. I have listened to most of the interviews with the devs and they talk about the reason they left it out. Again, if you want to put it in you can but it would be explaining something they thought would be broken and not fun.
If you want a mech just make a tiny ship with arms and legs.
My issues:
1) No mechs: They don't present a humanoid-shaped starship frame. HOWEVER, considering that damage scaling with size has been either changed or removed, they... might be keeping it for a separate booklet in order to compile mech-exclusive weapons. Hey, your lvl20 weapon might be no match for a mech's lvl20 weapon if it's 10 times its normal size.
The book is already 524 pages. They have talked about expansions.
I was hoping for at least one starship frame based on a mech, until I noticed that the damage scaling for weapons isn't in Starfinder. I basically retracted that idea.
Yeah, good luck being menacing with a Huge mech with a 1d4 pistol XD
Well how often are you going to be chased by a ship with it shooting at you? Just figure one shot from a spaceship is instadeath. I have listened to most of the interviews with the devs and they talk about the reason they left it out. Again, if you want to put it in you can but it would be explaining something they thought would be broken and not fun.
If you want a mech just make a tiny ship with arms and legs.
The Powered Armors... are the closest thing to mechs right now ;)
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Just to point out,
A) Barricade lets you get cover anywhere, not just if a table is nearby.
B) Harrassing/Covering Fire are actions anyone can do. The Suppresive Fire Feat just makes you a lot better at them.
Totally agree; Barricade isn't just making cover from a table; it's making cover from a couple of wicker baskets and a trashcan.
My issues:
1) No mechs: They don't present a humanoid-shaped starship frame. HOWEVER, considering that damage scaling with size has been either changed or removed, they... might be keeping it for a separate booklet in order to compile mech-exclusive weapons. Hey, your lvl20 weapon might be no match for a mech's lvl20 weapon if it's 10 times its normal size.
The book is already 524 pages. They have talked about expansions.
I was hoping for at least one starship frame based on a mech, until I noticed that the damage scaling for weapons isn't in Starfinder. I basically retracted that idea.
Yeah, good luck being menacing with a Huge mech with a 1d4 pistol XD
Well how often are you going to be chased by a ship with it shooting at you? Just figure one shot from a spaceship is instadeath. I have listened to most of the interviews with the devs and they talk about the reason they left it out. Again, if you want to put it in you can but it would be explaining something they thought would be broken and not fun.
If you want a mech just make a tiny ship with arms and legs.
I've considered a house rule that targeting a creature with a starship scale weapon is a flat d100 roll, with a "00" indicating a hit -- but then, it would likely be in my first game using it that someone gets that "00" roll, and someone dies early. :)
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Totally agree; Barricade isn't just making cover from a table; it's making cover from a couple of wicker baskets and a trashcan.Just to point out,
A) Barricade lets you get cover anywhere, not just if a table is nearby.
B) Harrassing/Covering Fire are actions anyone can do. The Suppresive Fire Feat just makes you a lot better at them.
"Dude! Why are there always conference tables for you to duck behind!"
"I took barricade, bro!"
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Totally agree; Barricade isn't just making cover from a table; it's making cover from a couple of wicker baskets and a trashcan.Just to point out,
A) Barricade lets you get cover anywhere, not just if a table is nearby.
B) Harrassing/Covering Fire are actions anyone can do. The Suppresive Fire Feat just makes you a lot better at them.
"Dude! Why are there always conference tables for you to duck behind!"
"I took barricade, bro!"
"Dude, how'd you deflect that bullet with those two datapads?"
"Barricade, bro!"
Totally agree; Barricade isn't just making cover from a table; it's making cover from a couple of wicker baskets and a trashcan.Just to point out,
A) Barricade lets you get cover anywhere, not just if a table is nearby.
B) Harrassing/Covering Fire are actions anyone can do. The Suppresive Fire Feat just makes you a lot better at them.
"Dude! Why are there always conference tables for you to duck behind!"
"I took barricade, bro!"
"Dude, how'd you deflect that bullet with those two datapads?"
"Barricade, bro!"
"Dude, why are those datapads so big?"
"... You know, I don't know, bro."
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But, but. It's pads for Big Data!
I think we'll get Mech stuff down the line; it seems like such an iconic science fiction idea that would also require quite a bit of rules work that I expect it will be a core element of which ever Starfinder RPG support books are lined up in the future.
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Not everyone is aware of all the discussions going on, man.
Not going to lie, this is a poor excuse. There is a search feature. Simply type in the thing you are looking for, an OMG something may pop that is relevant to what you searched for. So you don't have to start duplicate threads.
Also seems like on some of this stuff you didn't actually read and do the research. You saw an issue and started to complaining. Several people have already mentioned this. I think maybe next time do your research and then comeback an post.
Then they would work like every other gun, giving them Blast aka a cone attack makes them unique.
And these are really good since it also avoids concealment.
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Not everyone is aware of all the discussions going on, man.Not going to lie, this is a poor excuse. There is a search feature. Simply type in the thing you are looking for, an OMG something may pop that is relevant to what you searched for. So you don't have to start duplicate threads.
I don't know about you, but search is straight busted for me lately. I tried searching for "exocortex" earlier, then sorting it by recent, and the most recent results it can find are from July 20th.
That's what I was saying, shotguns have a tight spread and decent range IRL. In game mechanics if they worked like real life they would be just like evey other gun. Point and click basically (moreso in d20 games since everything is based off 5ft squares). By giving them the "video game" cone blast they have something that sets apart form the other guns.
And the impact scattergun does have Blast.
So it's more like a sawed off shotgun.
Basically.
I think we'll get Mech stuff down the line; it seems like such an iconic science fiction idea that would also require quite a bit of rules work that I expect it will be a core element of which ever Starfinder RPG support books are lined up in the future.
I am working on a 'Mechfinder' document that places Mechs neatly between personal and starship scale and can interact with both (but not both at once because that gets awkward). Mechs themselves can be huge, gargantuan or colossal (on the creature scale).
Mechs are 3x Personal scale.
Starships are 3x Mech scale.
That's roughly appropriate to match the 'starships are 10x personal scale' rule.