Alchemy Bombs in relation to Primal Magic


Rules Questions


Hello all!
I am going to be running the Wardens of the Reborn Forge module for my group on Saturday and I had a rules question. One of my players wishes to be an Alchemist and I would like to know if the bombs are treated as a magical item for the purposes of Primal Magic.

According to the Alchemist Bomb description: "In addition to magical extracts, alchemists are adept at swiftly mixing various volatile chemicals and infusing them with their magical reserves to create powerful bombs that they can hurl at their enemies."

Because the Alchemists are infusing them with their magical reserves, would it be considered a magical item and thus be subject to the Primal Magic rules?

Thanks for any and all advice or thoughts!


No. They're a Su ability, not a magic item.


But according to the Core Book: Supernatural Abilities (Su): Supernatural abilities are magical attacks, defenses, and qualities. These abilities can be always active or they can require a specific action to utilize. The supernatural ability's description includes information on how it is used and its effects.

That's the main reason I'm asking. I was wondering if anybody else has encountered this and what they did.


Yes, that is what Su abilities are. Nothing in that says they are magic items, you may notice.

A +1 sword is a magic item. Boots of Speed are a magic item.

Bombs are a Su ability.


Okay. That helps a little bit. I just looked at the Primal magic rules again and it only says activating a magic item, spells and spell-like abilities trigger the wild magic effects. So I can safely assume that the Alchemist Bomb ability won't trigger that. Thanks for your help Rynjin!

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