Casual Viking |
Matrim Caouthon is a caster now? he would hate that... Also, he doesn't mostly fight noobs, he mostly drinks, games and tries to avoid fights.
Matrim Cauthon is a fine example of a character that only makes sense to build as a caster. In his case, some kind of Staff Magus. He has magical powers, he knows he has them, he actively uses them, but because they're some kind of fate/luck power, instead of channeling the One Power like all the other casters in the setting (except for all the ones that also don't use the One Power) he gets to pretend to hate "magic".
Imbicatus |
Torbyne wrote:Matrim Caouthon is a caster now? he would hate that... Also, he doesn't mostly fight noobs, he mostly drinks, games and tries to avoid fights.Matrim Cauthon is a fine example of a character that only makes sense to build as a caster. In his case, some kind of Staff Magus. He has magical powers, he knows he has them, he actively uses them, but because they're some kind of fate/luck power, instead of channeling the One Power like all the other casters in the setting (except for all the ones that also don't use the One Power) he gets to pretend to hate "magic".
I'd make Matrim Cauthon as slayer with TWF ranger combat style, Quarterstaff Mastery, and Spear Dancing style. You could also do well with a Sohei monk.
Either way, nothing he does would be a spell effect.
Create Mr. Pitt |
Stannis Baratheon would be very hard to model in PF. As one of my favorite fantisyish characters his power is mostly about resources and allies. Which is why it's very difficult for any role playing game to model ASOIAF.
And Yossarian from Catch-22, well I don't try to roleplay my favorite literary characters. Though I think Don Quixote paladin would be fun, but it would be an odd build.
Rhedyn |
I'm.... not sure Pathfinder can accurately describe Saitama.
He's just a commoner with improved unarmored strike that put all ability score increases into STR, CON, and DEX. His one skill point per level (dumped int) goes into acrobatics.
He has unlimited levels and the fleet feat over and over again. He can't kill mosquitoes because they don't have stats. He does not auto fail on nat ones.
VargrBoartusk |
John McClane is an investigator that trades his extracts for a d12 hit die and a +10 on swearing checks..
Hudson Hawk is an unchained rogue with the bard VMC
Sparhawk is.. some paladin variant which had its alignment requirement changed from lawful good to not-exactly-chaotic Dick and a monte haul railroading GM
And all of the gentlemen bastards are just thieves... Locke Lamora might be a bard.
Nigrescence |
Although he's not my favorite character, he's liked by many, including myself, and I'm sure he's someone's favorite. Guts from Berserk is absolutely not a caster and pretty much unarmored for the majority of the current series (trying to avoid spoilers).
There are many more examples. Your thread is bad and you should feel bad.
Chemlak |
Sparhawk is.. some paladin variant which had its alignment requirement changed from lawful good to not-exactly-chaotic Dick and a monte haul railroading GM
I'm firmly of the opinion that all four of the Orders are actually Paladins, who just happen to be not Lawful Stupid, but more... Pragmatic Good.
Darn tootin' about the Monte Haul railroading GM, though. What is it about Eddings and blue rock/gems, anyway?
Torbyne |
In fact the non magic and unarmored stereotype, usually some kind of "blademaster" is my favorite character concept that Pathfinder cant do any justice to. The Unchained monk with a Nine-ring Broadsword is as close as i've seen at that is an extremely niche build. So i'd say my favorite characters, in Pathfinder terms, cant be built in Pathfinder.
Torbyne |
Torbyne wrote:Matrim Caouthon is a caster now? he would hate that... Also, he doesn't mostly fight noobs, he mostly drinks, games and tries to avoid fights.Matrim Cauthon is a fine example of a character that only makes sense to build as a caster. In his case, some kind of Staff Magus. He has magical powers, he knows he has them, he actively uses them, but because they're some kind of fate/luck power, instead of channeling the One Power like all the other casters in the setting (except for all the ones that also don't use the One Power) he gets to pretend to hate "magic".
His luck is probably better represented as the GM fudging rolls or deus ex machina-ing information to the player for the sake of the story. aside from that its his martial skills and ability to out drink most other living entities in the setting.
BigNorseWolf |
Casual Viking wrote:His luck is probably better represented as the GM fudging rolls or deus ex machina-ing information to the player for the sake of the story. aside from that its his martial skills and ability to out drink most other living entities in the setting.Torbyne wrote:Matrim Caouthon is a caster now? he would hate that... Also, he doesn't mostly fight noobs, he mostly drinks, games and tries to avoid fights.Matrim Cauthon is a fine example of a character that only makes sense to build as a caster. In his case, some kind of Staff Magus. He has magical powers, he knows he has them, he actively uses them, but because they're some kind of fate/luck power, instead of channeling the One Power like all the other casters in the setting (except for all the ones that also don't use the One Power) he gets to pretend to hate "magic".
Archeologist bard
The Sword |
Matt Cauthorn is a fighter with hero points and extra knowledge & professions skills. Maybe a slayer, but I can't think of a time he has used a sneak attack or hunted someone. No way is he a caster, even a bard. Disgraceful sugggestion!
I would say Moiraine Damodred Sedai is closes to a Druid with the Community Domain - who has forgotten how to wildshape.
I would say Ned Stark is a ranger worshiping the trees with the Two-handed Weapon style.
Doctor Byron Orpheus is a Necromancer or possibly an Occultist.
Cult of Vorg |
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I would guess that the OP means unarmored or non-casting inspirations are often a product of a world where those things are the norm, or in a conversion sense they'd be non-optimal characters being cool against low CR encounters..
So, when converting them to PF, instead of focusing on that part, emphasize other parts of their inspiration and don't worry about the armor or spells they use to stay viable..
That said, if those are the parts that are inspiring, I say go ahead and either jump through optimization hoops, or work with the GM so your underpowered character still feels cool.
Kalindlara Contributor |
The sword wrote:No way is he a caster, even a bard. Disgraceful sugggestion!Archtype the casting out. I thought archaeologist did that..
Nope. It removes performance but leaves casting intact. The only archetype I know of that removes casting from a non-full BAB class is the sleuth archetype for investigators.
Rosc |
Baval |
Yes, Lucien is a Drow Necromancer who prefers to fight in melee with the support of his undead.
However, my second favorite Reginald McGalacod is a scientist who detests magic to the point he refuses to use any magic items, and he wears no armor at all.
And my third favorite is a cyborg.
And my fourth favorite is my Monster Hunter who uses a Lance and Shield...so i guess you got me on heavy armored here.
And my fifth favorite is Dr Insano.....
So....1.5 out of 5?
Oh, and my group likes to play campaigns at least starting at level 10-ish
edit: you meant favorite character in general....
yeah i still stand by my list. I like my own characters =P
BigNorseWolf |
Matrim would be a good candidate for investigator, inspiration would be ideal. Archaeologist bard is a good personality fit, but less good as fulfilling the abilities. He was also a great battle commander, so maybe investigator does work.
Inspire courage/competence is amazing when you've got a few thousand people in earshot to use that +2/+2
Kalindlara Contributor |