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I don't think prestidigitation allows permanently altering creatures (or yourself), but if I were the GM in this situation, I'd allow an overwhelming garlic odor for number of minutes equal to your caster level.
I'd give the vamp a will save to realize the garlic isn't real.
Prestidigitation isn't an Illusion spell, it's Universal. The flavor would be real...
...If you could flavor yourself, which you can't, because you're alive.
Though amusingly if you were also a vampire, THEN you could make yourself taste of garlic.
So, what happens if you cast Prestidigitation to make the Vampire's nose smell of garlic?
I'd give the vamp a will save to realize the garlic isn't real.Prestidigitation isn't an Illusion spell, it's Universal. The flavor would be real...
...If you could flavor yourself, which you can't, because you're alive.
Though amusingly if you were also a vampire, THEN you could make yourself taste of garlic.
For clarification this is the part of the spell's description Rynjin is referring to and why this trick explicitly does not work:
It can chill, warm, or flavor 1 pound of nonliving material.
How much does a small collar or scarf weigh?
What about major image? That creates smells.
I'd give the vamp a will save to realize the garlic isn't real.Prestidigitation isn't an Illusion spell, it's Universal. The flavor would be real...
...If you could flavor yourself, which you can't, because you're alive.
Though amusingly if you were also a vampire, THEN you could make yourself taste of garlic.
For clarification this is the part of the spell's description Rynjin is referring to and why this trick explicitly does not work:
It can chill, warm, or flavor 1 pound of nonliving material.
I can't remember. Are teeth considered to be alive? It would be under the wight limit.
Though amusingly if you were also a vampire, THEN you could make yourself taste of garlic.
I'd forgotten the "nonliving" clause.
Yes, that is an amusing loophole, Rynjin.
Wellll..... the outermost layer of anyone's skin is composed of dead cells, so technically...
A. Non-livingand
B. Even all the dead cells together probably weigh less than 1 pound.
But either way, I'd have to give any player coming up with this an 'A' for effort!
This thread has some good ideas, but keep in mind vampires can make Will saves against garlic:
Weaknesses: Vampires cannot tolerate the strong odor of garlic and will not enter an area laced with it. Similarly, they recoil from mirrors or strongly presented holy symbols. These things don't harm the vampire—they merely keep it at bay. A recoiling vampire must stay at least 5 feet away from the mirror or holy symbol and cannot touch or make melee attacks against that creature. Holding a vampire at bay takes a standard action. After 1 round, a vampire can overcome its revulsion of the object and function normally each round it makes a DC 25 Will save.
And even if they fail, they can throw / shoot things at you, use their summons or dominate you. Garlic against vampires is like fire immunity against a red dragon - it helps, but doesn't guarantee victory.
I just had a thought: Vampires "cannot tolerate the strong odor of garlic and will not enter an area laced with it."
Could you protect yourself from a vampire attack by using prestidigitation to flavor yourself like garlic? I don't see why not!
Nope. Making "you" smell like garlic is not lacing an area with garlic. At best you might be able to stop them from attacking you for a limited time most likely if a GM was generous.
Nope. Making "you" smell like garlic is not lacing an area with garlic. At best you might be able to stop them from attacking you for a limited time most likely if a GM was generous.I just had a thought: Vampires "cannot tolerate the strong odor of garlic and will not enter an area laced with it."
Could you protect yourself from a vampire attack by using prestidigitation to flavor yourself like garlic? I don't see why not!
But if you're GM was a fan of the silly...
That depends on the way you look at it.
1. Should you be able to ward of a vampire with a cantrip?
2. Should you be able to use a cantrip as a substitute for a vegetable?I'm guessing no on the first, yes on the second. It might depend on the GM and if he wants to run a resources based game or not.
Well, they let pizza serve as a substitute for a vegetable, and both of that and the cantrip mostly just add 'real flavoring TM' onto cardboard.
But if you're GM was a fan of the silly...Nope. Making "you" smell like garlic is not lacing an area with garlic. At best you might be able to stop them from attacking you for a limited time most likely if a GM was generous.I just had a thought: Vampires "cannot tolerate the strong odor of garlic and will not enter an area laced with it."
Could you protect yourself from a vampire attack by using prestidigitation to flavor yourself like garlic? I don't see why not!
If the GM is less of a "rules guy" then yeah I can see this working. The game is assuming real garlic, so this is really outside of the rules especially since cantrips are not supposed to be powerful, and a spell that can keep a vampire at bay would be above level 0. :)
I'd give the vamp a will save to realize the garlic isn't real.Prestidigitation isn't an Illusion spell, it's Universal. The flavor would be real...
...If you could flavor yourself, which you can't, because you're alive.
Though amusingly if you were also a vampire, THEN you could make yourself taste of garlic.
New plan: I cast it on the vampire.
I would say prestidigitation would make a weaker garlic smell—a DC 15 Will save instead of DC 25, and only protecting a single individual. Remember, guys, garlic costs about 1 cp from a typical farmers' market. Ustalavan adepts aren't gonna be half as busy as the Ustalavan vegetable peddlers. :P
I'd allow it. I like to incentivise anything other than 'can I have a pointed stick?' (which is my table's usual vampire joke).
I'd give the vamp a will save to realize the garlic isn't real.Prestidigitation isn't an Illusion spell, it's Universal. The flavor would be real...
...If you could flavor yourself, which you can't, because you're alive.
Though amusingly if you were also a vampire, THEN you could make yourself taste of garlic.
New plan: I cast it on the vampire.
I would say prestidigitation would make a weaker garlic smell—a DC 15 Will save instead of DC 25, and only protecting a single individual. Remember, guys, garlic costs about 1 cp from a typical farmers' market. Ustalavan adepts aren't gonna be half as busy as the Ustalavan vegetable peddlers. :P
Vampires weigh more than one pound, I think. Even a halfling vampire would be 25 pounds..the next size category down would be about 3? And no half-flavouring a vampire. It's just wrong.
Although this might work on a diminutive or smaller vampire. Because those are a thing, right?
Tremble at their illogical glory!
I'd allow it. I like to incentivise anything other than 'can I have a pointed stick?' (which is my table's usual vampire joke).
I think there are better ways to do that than allowing a cantrip to neutralize a CR 9 encounter, though. Casters are strong enough already, don't need to be giving them no-save turn undead for free.
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I don't think the encounter is neutralised, personally.
I think it would have limited effect beyond delaying it's entry into a protected area. I don't read it as saying he has to leave the room - nor is he really affected in any way other than not being able to melee attack the caster for a few rounds.
I'd give the vamp a will save to realize the garlic isn't real.Prestidigitation isn't an Illusion spell, it's Universal. The flavor would be real...
...If you could flavor yourself, which you can't, because you're alive.
Though amusingly if you were also a vampire, THEN you could make yourself taste of garlic.
New plan: I cast it on the vampire.
I would say prestidigitation would make a weaker garlic smell—a DC 15 Will save instead of DC 25, and only protecting a single individual. Remember, guys, garlic costs about 1 cp from a typical farmers' market. Ustalavan adepts aren't gonna be half as busy as the Ustalavan vegetable peddlers. :P
Vampires weigh more than one pound, I think. Even a halfling vampire would be 25 pounds..the next size category down would be about 3? And no half-flavouring a vampire. It's just wrong.
Although this might work on a diminutive or smaller vampire. Because those are a thing, right?
They should be a thing. A pack of diminutive vampires sounds awesome!
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They should be a thing. A pack of diminutive vampires sounds awesome!
Vampiric Rat Swarm?
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PLATYPUS VAMPIRE!!! That is all.
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I would have a chuckle at the creativity if I was on the receiving end as GM, but at the end of the day if prestidigitation could protect you from vampires then every adept in Ustalav would have a village's worth of guests every night :P
Or they could just use... garlic. It's not exactly a rare and precious commodity after all.
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In Ustalav vampires probably compare garlics the way some people compare chili peppers. Smearing garlic on yourself is for them like limping is to a wolf.