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Everybody remember the errata retraining rules:
If a feat is changed, you keep the new version, ignoring any new prerequisites, or replace the feat for free.
Also:
If a class, prestige class, or a class feature-dependent ability score is altered: You may rebuild your character to its current XP, maintaining the same equipment.
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My psychic searcher oracle, Bobbi, got a boost! She now gets to base her inspiration pool off her charisma instead of her wisdom. I had resigned myself to having an inspiration pool of 1 for most of my career, so this is a happy change for me.
I also got happy news for my Spirit Guide Oracle as far as the life link off of the life spirit. The life link change is a good one.
BTW, this change could make a wisdom-based Oradin (someone who self-heals and automatically heals others while still getting to fight in melee) possible by multi-classing Inquisitor or Warpriest with Shaman.
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Venture-Captain, Minnesota
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Everybody remember the errata retraining rules:
If a feat is changed, you keep the new version, ignoring any new prerequisites, or replace the feat for free.
Also:
If a class, prestige class, or a class feature-dependent ability score is altered: You may rebuild your character to its current XP, maintaining the same equipment.
So my friend has an arcanist archetype he can no longer use because his charisma isn't high enough.
Does this mean he can retrain the archetype for free?
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Everybody remember the errata retraining rules:
If a feat is changed, you keep the new version, ignoring any new prerequisites, or replace the feat for free.
Also:
If a class, prestige class, or a class feature-dependent ability score is altered: You may rebuild your character to its current XP, maintaining the same equipment.So my friend has an arcanist archetype he can no longer use because his charisma isn't high enough.
Does this mean he can retrain the archetype for free?
What arcanist archetype has a charisma requirement?
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Watching the movies and reading the comics a certain hero who fights unarmed with a shield and throws the shield, doesn't throw the shield every time. He uses it as a melee weapon most of the time. Also, in the movies it takes him 6 - 10 seconds for him to reset the shield after he throws it.Making no comments on their actions (though I tend to agree) just simply mentioning that they actually have proficiency now.Shield Champion Brawlers are actually proficient with shields as weapons now.ExcellentAction-economy stuff
Yea I know no one was commenting about the action economy. I'm just grumpy that they only fixed the most easy-to-fix issue about the archetype.
Movie and comic Cap mostly uses unarmed (in "Captain Andoran: The Winter Rider" anyways) which I appreciate. Only shield bashing occasionally as it seems slower than his fists or kicks. Him releasing to throw shield or catching and restrapping it was way faster than 6 seconds though.
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RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16
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Everybody remember the errata retraining rules:
If a feat is changed, you keep the new version, ignoring any new prerequisites, or replace the feat for free.
Also:
If a class, prestige class, or a class feature-dependent ability score is altered: You may rebuild your character to its current XP, maintaining the same equipment.So my friend has an arcanist archetype he can no longer use because his charisma isn't high enough.
Does this mean he can retrain the archetype for free?
I don't know about archetypes, but if you're talking about the exploits that now require Charisma where they didn't before, then he can retrain the character in full (not just the archetype), except for equipment. So that includes rejiggering stats or even race to get more Charisma, or abandoning the concept entirely and going for something else (again, with the same equipment).
Making no comments on their actions (though I tend to agree) just simply mentioning that they actually have proficiency now.Shield Champion Brawlers are actually proficient with shields as weapons now.ExcellentAction-economy stuff
The thing is that if you aren't going to throw the shield, the archetype now has very little point. The base brawler is now very adequate at fighting with shields on his own.
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Sidenote:
In the Steadfast Personality entry, change the
Benefits entry to “Use your Charisma modifier on saves
against mind-affecting effects”.
In the Steadfast Personality feat, change
the Benefit section to “Benefit: Add your Charisma
modifier instead of your Wisdom bonus on Will saves.
If you have a Wisdom penalty, you must apply both your
Wisdom penalty and your Charisma modifier.”
Will saves, or Will saves against Mind-affecting effects?
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Sidenote:
In the Steadfast Personality entry, change the
Benefits entry to “Use your Charisma modifier on saves
against mind-affecting effects”.Will saves, or Will saves against Mind-affecting effects?In the Steadfast Personality feat, change
the Benefit section to “Benefit: Add your Charisma
modifier instead of your Wisdom bonus on Will saves.
If you have a Wisdom penalty, you must apply both your
Wisdom penalty and your Charisma modifier.”
It seems to be just Will Saves. Looks to me like this was a compromise with the complete nerf of Divine Protection to make Steadfast Personality better, but not tremendously overpowered by forcing the Wisdom penalty to still apply.
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The change to the Bolt Ace archetype for the Gunslinger includes starting with a masterwork crossbow of the player's choice, and they start out proficient with all crossbows now. Also, there is no language specifying that you can't sell the free masterwork crossbow so theoretically, you could start with a masterwork repeating hand crossbow, which costs 1100 gp, and sell it for 550 gp.
Seems like this probably wasn't intended to work this way, but as written in the errata, this appears to be the case.
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Free items from class features or prestige are worth 0 gold for purposes of reselling.
Ah, okay. It was weird because there was specific language about the starting gun for the gunslinger being worthless if sold since it was battered, etc. Didn't realize there was a general rule about it since it hasn't come up for me before.
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Venture-Lieutenant, Minnesota—Minneapolis
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What arcanist archetype has a charisma requirement?Everybody remember the errata retraining rules:
If a feat is changed, you keep the new version, ignoring any new prerequisites, or replace the feat for free.
Also:
If a class, prestige class, or a class feature-dependent ability score is altered: You may rebuild your character to its current XP, maintaining the same equipment.So my friend has an arcanist archetype he can no longer use because his charisma isn't high enough.
Does this mean he can retrain the archetype for free?
Occultist has an indirect one.
It isn't a case of no longer being able to use it. It is a matter of there being significantly less ways to refill the Arcane Pool.
At the start everything looks alright. It is as you climb levels that things start falling apart.
Occultist 7 can use Summon Monster 4, using 4 points from their Arcane Spell Reserve. Assuming a 10 Charisma, their starting reserve for the day would be 3 + 7 = 10, but they only fill it to 3 + 7/2 = 6, missing 4 points when they start the day. At 7th level, their highest spell level is 3. Consuming one of their highest spell slots is not enough to fill the reserve. With the errata, they only get to do this a number of times equal to their Charisma Mod (min 1), so they need a 14 Charisma to be able to completely fill their reserve.
I really wish it had been something like 3 + Charisma Mod rather than Charisma Mod (min 1) since at least that way there would be a difference in this between an Arcanist with a 7 Charisma and a 12 Charisma.
Extra Reservoir might partially fix this if you interpret is as adding to both the maximum and the amount gained daily when spells are prepared.
Consume Magic Item used to be a way to fix this, but now it also can only be used a number of times equal to their Charisma Mod (min 1) which really hampers things.
I still have to digest exactly what this errata means for my character.
Occultist has an indirect one.It isn't a case of no longer being able to use it. It is a matter of there being significantly less ways to refill the Arcane Pool.
At the start everything looks alright. It is as you climb levels that things start falling apart.
Occultist 7 can use Summon Monster 4, using 4 points from their Arcane Spell Reserve. Assuming a 10 Charisma, their starting reserve for the day would be 3 + 7 = 10, but they only fill it to 3 + 7/2 = 6, missing 4 points when they start the day. At 7th level, their highest spell level is 3. Consuming one of their highest spell slots is not enough to fill the reserve. With the errata, they only get to do this a number of times equal to their Charisma Mod (min 1), so they need a 14 Charisma to be able to completely fill their reserve.
I really wish it had been something like 3 + Charisma Mod rather than Charisma Mod (min 1) since at least that way there would be a difference in this between an Arcanist with a 7 Charisma and a 12 Charisma.
Extra Reservoir might partially fix this if you interpret is as adding to both the maximum and the amount gained daily when spells are prepared.
Consume Magic Item used to be a way to fix this, but now it also can only be used a number of times equal to their Charisma Mod (min 1) which really hampers things.
I still have to digest exactly what this errata means for my character.
I just created an Arcanist myself. But have the archetype that allows me to specialize in a Wizards school. I believe I am ok with this change as my Charisma is relatively high (18).
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Free items from class features or prestige are worth 0 gold for purposes of reselling.
Really? Where is that specified?
The only thing I've seen that addresses selling class-specific starting equipment is:Gunslinger: A gunslinger's starting gun (granted by the gunsmith class feature) is worth 22 gp if sold (the average of 4d10).
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Slashing Grace allows light weapons, but can only be used if other hands are unoccupied.This one has me kind of upset, because last time I played my swashbuckler (a couple of months ago) I spent 10 PP to retrain from Dervish Dance to Slashing Grace (Quick Draw to Weapon Focus to qualify) so that I could use a freaking buckler, and now even if I get a free retrain back, I don't automatically get that prestige back.
I did this exact same thing, but I also bought a Swordmaster's Flair, which is now unusable with Slashing Grace.
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Free items from class features or prestige are worth 0 gold for purposes of reselling.Really? Where is that specified?
The only thing I've seen that addresses selling class-specific starting equipment is:Gunslinger: A gunslinger's starting gun (granted by the gunsmith class feature) is worth 22 gp if sold (the average of 4d10).
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Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento
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I did this exact same thing, but I also bought a Swordmaster's Flair, which is now unusable with Slashing Grace.Slashing Grace allows light weapons, but can only be used if other hands are unoccupied.This one has me kind of upset, because last time I played my swashbuckler (a couple of months ago) I spent 10 PP to retrain from Dervish Dance to Slashing Grace (Quick Draw to Weapon Focus to qualify) so that I could use a freaking buckler, and now even if I get a free retrain back, I don't automatically get that prestige back.
It think you only have to grasp it to activate it. So Blue scarf and Green glove still work. Red sash seems problematic, and I haven't looked at the hankerchief
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HEREFree items from class features or prestige are worth 0 gold for purposes of reselling.Really? Where is that specified?
The only thing I've seen that addresses selling class-specific starting equipment is:Gunslinger: A gunslinger's starting gun (granted by the gunsmith class feature) is worth 22 gp if sold (the average of 4d10).
Random board post from 2012, that explains why I couldn't find it in the Guide...
Thanks!
-TimD
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These garish tokens usually take the form of a colorful clothing accessories. So long as a token is grasped in the user’s off hand, she can spend 1 panache point to gain the use of a specific ability associated with the token. Once per day, the bearer can use the token to gain the full benefit of the token without spending panache. Non-swashbucklers can use the tokens, but unless they have another way of gaining panache, they can use the ability only once per day. A character can benefit from only one token at a time; holding a second token provides no additional benefit. There are four types of tokens, each offering a different benefit.
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These garish tokens usually take the form of a colorful clothing accessories. So long as a token is grasped in the user’s off hand, she can spend 1 panache point to gain the use of a specific ability associated with the token. Once per day, the bearer can use the token to gain the full benefit of the token without spending panache. Non-swashbucklers can use the tokens, but unless they have another way of gaining panache, they can use the ability only once per day. A character can benefit from only one token at a time; holding a second token provides no additional benefit. There are four types of tokens, each offering a different benefit.
you have to grasp it, not wield it. So you don't have to draw it, you just have to be able to lay your hand on it and not have your hand occupied.
You only have to grasp it to activate it. It doesn't say anything about the effect ending if you release it.
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The change to Slashing Grace is going to make my wife's character a bit more awesome, actually. She's playing a catfolk 'cat burger' in a Reign of Winter AP, and she uses her claws for big sneak damage.
So - here's a question. Natural weapons (such as the catfolk claws) are considered "light" weapons. The change to Slashing Grace now adds light weapons to the feat. However, you still have to choose "one type" of weapon for the feat to work with.
My question is - is choosing "Natural Attacks" sufficient? Or must one select the specific natural attack, such as "Bite", or "Claw"?
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Also, further on it mentions that holding two has no additional benefit. The intention seems clear you must hold it for it to work, not just to activate it.
Otherwise everyone would be dropping the token as a free action the moment after it was activated.
I don't agree that that is the intention. Nor does dropping the token matter when you already have one benefit in place.
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The change to Slashing Grace is going to make my wife's character a bit more awesome, actually. She's playing a catfolk 'cat burger' in a Reign of Winter AP, and she uses her claws for big sneak damage.
So - here's a question. Natural weapons (such as the catfolk claws) are considered "light" weapons. The change to Slashing Grace now adds light weapons to the feat. However, you still have to choose "one type" of weapon for the feat to work with.
My question is - is choosing "Natural Attacks" sufficient? Or must one select the specific natural attack, such as "Bite", or "Claw"?
It will only work with ONE of her natural attacks AT A TIME. If she selected Slashing Grace (claw), she would only benefit from that feat if she attacks with ONLY ONE claw.
I'm disappointed about the lack of clarification on the Bloodrager / Dragon Disciple interaction on bloodlines. But then that might be a more appropriate errata for the Dragon Disciple.
Given their utter lack of enthusiasm for prestige classes and the potential for abuse out of dragon disciple, I think they deliberately ignored it.
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It will only work with ONE of her natural attacks AT A TIME. If she selected Slashing Grace (claw), she would only benefit from that feat if she attacks with ONLY ONE claw.
The change to Slashing Grace is going to make my wife's character a bit more awesome, actually. She's playing a catfolk 'cat burger' in a Reign of Winter AP, and she uses her claws for big sneak damage.
So - here's a question. Natural weapons (such as the catfolk claws) are considered "light" weapons. The change to Slashing Grace now adds light weapons to the feat. However, you still have to choose "one type" of weapon for the feat to work with.
My question is - is choosing "Natural Attacks" sufficient? Or must one select the specific natural attack, such as "Bite", or "Claw"?
Whoa, what? What are you basing that on? It's certainky not the case for things like Weapon Focus, so what makes Slashing Grace different?
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Whoa, what? What are you basing that on? It's certainky not the case for things like Weapon Focus, so what makes Slashing Grace different?It will only work with ONE of her natural attacks AT A TIME. If she selected Slashing Grace (claw), she would only benefit from that feat if she attacks with ONLY ONE claw.
The change to Slashing Grace is going to make my wife's character a bit more awesome, actually. She's playing a catfolk 'cat burger' in a Reign of Winter AP, and she uses her claws for big sneak damage.
So - here's a question. Natural weapons (such as the catfolk claws) are considered "light" weapons. The change to Slashing Grace now adds light weapons to the feat. However, you still have to choose "one type" of weapon for the feat to work with.
My question is - is choosing "Natural Attacks" sufficient? Or must one select the specific natural attack, such as "Bite", or "Claw"?
Probably the text added in the errata document we're discussing. ^_^
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Whoa, what? What are you basing that on? It's certainky not the case for things like Weapon Focus, so what makes Slashing Grace different?It will only work with ONE of her natural attacks AT A TIME. If she selected Slashing Grace (claw), she would only benefit from that feat if she attacks with ONLY ONE claw.
The change to Slashing Grace is going to make my wife's character a bit more awesome, actually. She's playing a catfolk 'cat burger' in a Reign of Winter AP, and she uses her claws for big sneak damage.
So - here's a question. Natural weapons (such as the catfolk claws) are considered "light" weapons. The change to Slashing Grace now adds light weapons to the feat. However, you still have to choose "one type" of weapon for the feat to work with.
My question is - is choosing "Natural Attacks" sufficient? Or must one select the specific natural attack, such as "Bite", or "Claw"?
You do not gain this benefit while fighting with two weapons or using flurry of blows, or any time another hand is otherwise occupied.
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Kind of goofy that Slashing Grace no longer works at all for a Picaroon, since they seemed to be pretty much made for each other.
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The thing is that if you aren't going to throw the shield, the archetype now has very little point. The base brawler is now very adequate at fighting with shields on his own.Making no comments on their actions (though I tend to agree) just simply mentioning that they actually have proficiency now.Shield Champion Brawlers are actually proficient with shields as weapons now.ExcellentAction-economy stuff
True, but until the errata they were only proficient with shields as weapons (from the close weapon fighter group)
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Rapier still works - Fencing Grace isn't affected by the change.So...is it me or should we be seeing all of the swashbucklers at service at the temple of saranrae this weekend? Are we back to the rapier not being a viable swashbuckler weapon?
Fencing Grace was the clue that slashing grace was going to be changed since fencing grace's wording matches the errata to slashing grace and they both match dervish dance now. I always assumed it was going to be changed.