Since the create demiplane line of spells aren't instantaneous duration they seem to be free game for Spell Sunder, which means that the barbarian can destroy an entire plane of existence simply by hitting it hard enough. And people wonder why I love barbarians.
With that being said, how does one target a demiplane with Spell Sunder and more importantly, what happens to the wizard currently inside the demiplane?
The same thing that happens to anyone in a demiplane when its duration ends.
It should count as an ejection. Read below.
As a standard action, you may eject a creature from your demiplane. The creature may resist with a Will saving throw. An ejected creature goes to the closest plane to your demiplane (usually the Astral Plane or the Ethereal Plane, but if you cast this spell on the Material Plane, the creature is sent to the Material Plane). When the spell ends, the plane dissolves, and all creatures in the plane are ejected in this manner with no saving throw. The plane cannot be dispelled, but a creature on the plane can destroy it by using limited wish, mage’s disjunction, miracle, or wish and making a successful dispel check.
When the plane is created the caster decides if it is on the Astral or Ethereal plane.
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A Spell caster starts to cry?
I'm pretty sure nothing, considering the spell can't be dispelled.
As I am currently playing a barbarian that can spell sunder at +40, I am quite entertained by this notion. MUHAHAHA! But yeah, I do wonder if the spell can actually be dispelled...
Spell Sunder states that '...the effect is dispelled.'
Create Demiplane, Lesser states that 'The plane cannot be dispelled'
that makes the Demiplane an invalid target for your spell sunder.
Spell Sunder states that '...the effect is dispelled.'
Create Demiplane, Lesser states that 'The plane cannot be dispelled'
that makes the Demiplane an invalid target for your spell sunder.
Spellcasters rejoice.
Unfortunately, it does not appear you can.
The plane cannot be dispelled, but a creature on the plane can destroy it by using limited wish, mage's disjunction, miracle, or wish and making a successful dispel check.
Spell Sunder is not a listed method, so it does not seem you can. Of course, your DM could rule otherwise, but RAW you can't.
Unfortunately, it does not appear you can.
The plane cannot be dispelled, but a creature on the plane can destroy it by using limited wish, mage's disjunction, miracle, or wish and making a successful dispel check.Spell Sunder is not a listed method, so it does not seem you can. Of course, your DM could rule otherwise, but RAW you can't.
Add to that any greater demiplane creator who does not use the subjective magic trait wherein making himself the only one who can cast the three spells that can dispel his demiplane deserves what he gets.
Unfortunately, it does not appear you can.
The plane cannot be dispelled, but a creature on the plane can destroy it by using limited wish, mage's disjunction, miracle, or wish and making a successful dispel check.Spell Sunder is not a listed method, so it does not seem you can. Of course, your DM could rule otherwise, but RAW you can't.Add to that any greater demiplane creator who does not use the subjective magic trait wherein making himself the only one who can cast the three spells that can dispel his demiplane deserves what he gets.
That's actually not a trait on demiplanes. You can't do that. The closest you can get is a complete dead magic zone.
That's actually not a trait on demiplanes. You can't do that. The closest you can get is a complete dead magic zone.Unfortunately, it does not appear you can.
The plane cannot be dispelled, but a creature on the plane can destroy it by using limited wish, mage's disjunction, miracle, or wish and making a successful dispel check.Spell Sunder is not a listed method, so it does not seem you can. Of course, your DM could rule otherwise, but RAW you can't.Add to that any greater demiplane creator who does not use the subjective magic trait wherein making himself the only one who can cast the three spells that can dispel his demiplane deserves what he gets.
You're right. Oops. My bad. Well, you'll have to get creative with the timeless trait then.
You're right. Oops. My bad. Well, you'll have to get creative with the timeless trait then.That's actually not a trait on demiplanes. You can't do that. The closest you can get is a complete dead magic zone.Unfortunately, it does not appear you can.
The plane cannot be dispelled, but a creature on the plane can destroy it by using limited wish, mage's disjunction, miracle, or wish and making a successful dispel check.Spell Sunder is not a listed method, so it does not seem you can. Of course, your DM could rule otherwise, but RAW you can't.Add to that any greater demiplane creator who does not use the subjective magic trait wherein making himself the only one who can cast the three spells that can dispel his demiplane deserves what he gets.
Seems like something that should be possible, but I think it would also be too powerful. Every (player) wizard would decide to become a lich and would just decide to make a timeless demiplane where only they could cast magic to perform their magical research. Until they leave after completing their research to enslave the multiverse.
Trying to defeat a wizard in a place where his magic works and others doesn't is going to go very poorly.
Yeah, but then they just become the target of the next parties adventuring.. :-)
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Seems like something that should be possible, but I think it would also be too powerful. Every (player) wizard would decide to become a lich and would just decide to make a timeless demiplane where only they could cast magic to perform their magical research. Until they leave after completing their research to enslave the multiverse.
Trying to defeat a wizard in a place where his magic works and others doesn't is going to go very poorly.
If they get too uppity I'm sure a deity would step in with a quick dispel.
On a related note isnt there a spell that creates an area of magic where you're enhanced and others are harmed? I cant think of the name.
Perhaps a carefully worded wish would accomplish the "I can cast and you can't" goal of the demiplane creator.
The closest thing I can think of is Aroden's Spellbane. It allows you to be immune to certain spells, such as antimagic field. Though I don't think this would function against a dead magic zone, which is decidely different from an antimagic zone and is not a spell.
Also, there is the question of how one would obtain access to that spell. As I don't think it should be common knowledge. Mostly because it's too damn powerful.
Slightly off topic, but this reminds me of back in First Edition days, when my chemical-engineer-major friend had the firm belief that the Ethereal Plane was actually filled with ether, you know, diethyl ether, the flammable chemical.
He lived in deadly fear of setting the entire plane on fire.
First an old man appears on a giant screen...
"You've destroyed so much... but tell me, what have you created?"
Seriously though, RAW, spell sunder can't do that as others have pointed out.