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I've got another easter egg question for anyone sharp eyed enough.

GentleGiant |

Article with lots of comments and observations on the movie, including various easter eggs.
All the Secrets and References in Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
Obviously it's full of spoilers!

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A fun one I didn't see mentioned yet in this thread is when Fury first presents the three super aircrafts to the Cap. When CA sees the new levitating engines, he asks is Stark Industries have something to do with them, and Fury says that "after taking a close look at our old turbines, Stark decided to help", or something like that.
The aforementioned "close look" is when he caught in them during the air battle in The Avengers.

Dazylar |

Kthulhu wrote:nah, they conveniently fell from 8000 ft right into their hangar. Now all they have to no is clean-up the probably very hazardous residual chemical and/or radioactivity that will otherwise pollute the whole east coast...Laurefindel wrote:Impressive amount of destruction without leveling yet another city of the US...I dunno, we may not have seen the full extent of the damage, but I can't imagine that three aircraft carriers falling out of the sky into a metropolitan area (in addition to all the previous damage they did), didn't seriously f%~% that city up.
I thought the energy they used was clean, due to the Stark involvement.

MeanDM |

Article with lots of comments and observations on the movie, including various easter eggs.
All the Secrets and References in Captain America: The Winter Soldier.Obviously it's full of spoilers!
Wow that's a cool site! Thanks for linking it!

Laurefindel |

Laurefindel wrote:I thought the energy they used was clean, due to the Stark involvement.Kthulhu wrote:nah, they conveniently fell from 8000 ft right into their hangar. Now all they have to no is clean-up the probably very hazardous residual chemical and/or radioactivity that will otherwise pollute the whole east coast...Laurefindel wrote:Impressive amount of destruction without leveling yet another city of the US...I dunno, we may not have seen the full extent of the damage, but I can't imagine that three aircraft carriers falling out of the sky into a metropolitan area (in addition to all the previous damage they did), didn't seriously f%~% that city up.
Comment was partially sarcastic due to how conveniently the carrier fell down into their hangar...
That being said, Stark's technology might be clean and sustainable as long as its runs smoothly, but not much is said about when it's damaged. Technically, a nuclear reactor runs perfectly clean... as long as all radioactive components are contained.

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Probably the best of the franchise since Iron Man I, I love all the little in jokes.
I saw a few more cool easter eggs
Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson) relates a story of his grandfather being an elevator operator. In real life, Samuel L. Jackson father was an elevator operator.
Nick Fury's grave bears the epitaph - "The path of the righteous man. Ezekiel 25:17." This is a favourite line of Jules Winnifield (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction.
First film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe to reveal Nick Fury's blind eye.
Tommy Lee Jones's portrait in the secret SHIELD office.
There is a brief mention of a Canadian agency called Department H by Natasha Romanoff, which was the organization that experimented on Wolverine and gave him his Adamantium-bonded skeleton in the Marvel comics.
Sitwell mentions specific persons of interest to HYDRA, did you catch the Dr. Strange mention?
In the distant shots of DC, it is noticeable that SHIELD headquarters is built ironically next to the Watergate complex.
When the helicarriers are being launched and the program is selecting targets for elimination, the name Tony Stark can be seen as well as Bruce Banner.
When Helicarriers look for their targets on one of the monitors there is a wire-frame model of formerly Stark Tower in New York now sporting the Avengers Sign.
Agent 13's true identity is Sharon Carter, Peggy Carter's niece.
The big bad at the end credits.
The two subjects in the HYDRA base in the last credit scene are the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
Garry Shandling is part of Hydra. I KNEW IT!

Dazylar |

Probably the best of the franchise since Iron Man I, I love all the little in jokes.
I saw a few more cool easter eggs
** spoiler omitted **...
Now, this might be my bias, but I thought he had crossed out Wars because he was told Trek was better, or just didn't like Space Opera. But as I said, I'm kinda biased... :-)

Jaelithe |
Spoiler:baron arem heshvaun wrote:Star Wars/Trek (with Star Wars crossed out, indicating that he had seen it)...I thought he had crossed out Wars because he was told Trek was better, or just didn't like Space Opera.

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The Interwebs are saying that the Doc Strange movie will introduce a lot of magic elements in the MCU... (i.e. they have somewhat held off with anything related to the paranormal so far)
I'm thinking the movie usher in additional spellcasters / magic beasts such as Doctor Voodoo, Satana, Baron Mordo, Ghost Rider, Captain Britain, etc.

Jaelithe |
The Interwebs are saying that the Doc Strange movie will introduce a lot of magic elements in the MCU... (i.e. they have somewhat held off with anything related to the paranormal so far)
I'm thinking the movie usher in additional spellcasters / magic beasts such as Doctor Voodoo, Satana, Baron Mordo, Ghost Rider, Captain Britain, etc.
It's annoying, in that Thor is now stuck as super science, when he's clearly a mystical character.

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Yes, they have written off the Asgardians as beings from another dimension with different body density, strength, etc. i.e. explained by tech/science.
Although Loki / Enchantress / Lorelei could definitely have sorcery. Actually MAoS had Sif confirm that Lorelei uses sorcery...
I'm not 100% sure they won't explain away Doc Strange's powers with the super science / sorcery angle as well... in the very recent Iron Man comics, Malekith gets of hold of one of the Mandarin rings, and totally overpowers it with his mind. When the ring's AI tries to resist, Malekith laughs and makes the following statement:
"Insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology"
In effect, Marvel seems to be doing a shift both in their TV/Movie MCU world and comics world that technology is a primitive form of magic (which means that ultimately, in the Marvel universe, magic beings are probably several power notches above the most advanced users of technology)

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I saw Cap2 Monday night. Loved it. Best Marvel movie yet, IMO, in terms of story and the action was pretty awesome too.
I really need to see it again.

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Spoiler:Star Wars/Trek (with Star Wars crossed out, indicating that he had seen it)Now, this might be my bias, but I thought he had crossed out Wars because he was told Trek was better, or just didn't like Space Opera. But as I said, I'm kinda biased... :-)
That's a fair assumption until you realize, oh wait Disney owns both Star Wars and most of none X Men and Spiderman Marvel now so of course he's seen it.
Resistance is futile.
:)

Caineach |

So, overall I really liked the movie, but did anyone else have an issue with the fact that all of the intelligence they had came from a bad guy deciding he would tell Captain A his evil plot just before he was killed?
I hate when plot critical elements rely on intelligent characters being insanely dumb, like villains gloating.

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So, overall I really liked the movie, but did anyone else have an issue with the fact that all of the intelligence they had came from a bad guy deciding he would tell Captain A his evil plot just before he was killed? ** spoiler omitted **
I hate when plot critical elements rely on intelligent characters being insanely dumb, like villains gloating.
Although, for future reference, if you're stalling someone, you shouldn't tell them you're stalling, especially when they still have juuuust enough time to get to safety.

Caineach |

Caineach wrote:** spoiler omitted **So, overall I really liked the movie, but did anyone else have an issue with the fact that all of the intelligence they had came from a bad guy deciding he would tell Captain A his evil plot just before he was killed? ** spoiler omitted **
I hate when plot critical elements rely on intelligent characters being insanely dumb, like villains gloating.

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Bill Dunn |

So, overall I really liked the movie, but did anyone else have an issue with the fact that all of the intelligence they had came from a bad guy deciding he would tell Captain A his evil plot just before he was killed?
I hate when plot critical elements rely on intelligent characters being insanely dumb, like villains gloating.
Uh, you may have already noticed this, but there are whole genres of movies that you are unsuited to viewing if this is really the case.

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Plus, this is HYDRA, and Zola's one of the original crew. When bad guys mention doing something to avoid an action on the Evil Overlord list, it's probably on that list because HYDRA made that mistake first. There's not a bit of scenery around them that doesn't have their teeth marks on it.
So, yeah, Zola was gloating about how well his plan went. That's HYDRA. He probably should have just kept talking, but where would be the fun of killing your nemesis if he didn't see the shot coming?
Also, I'm pretty sure Zola's not dead. In order for the missile to be fired, Zola had to send out a message to let HYDRA know where Rogers & Romanov are at. If he can contact the outside world, then he can download his consciousness somewhere else.
Zola lives! Hail HYDRA!

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So, overall I really liked the movie, but did anyone else have an issue with the fact that all of the intelligence they had came from a bad guy deciding he would tell Captain A his evil plot just before he was killed? ** spoiler omitted **
I hate when plot critical elements rely on intelligent characters being insanely dumb, like villains gloating.
Well, consider that Captain America is directly responsible for Zola's defeat in the previous round - and Zole had about 70 years to brood over that fact as a computer. Remember, he is a brilliant scientist, which isn't the same as a good operative. He could have easily lost his cool at the sight of his old nemesis.
But, yeah, that was annoying in the movie. I would have preferred it if the characters would have figured out the evil plot by themselves.

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Armin Zola also may have just not given a huge crap if he revealed Hydra's plans. I can't imagine getting mostly abandoned in an old military base is exactly the sort of thing that endears you to an organization.
Pierce seemed to believe that Zola was dead due to missile strike, so if Zola did download himself elsewhere, he obviously wasn't sharing that info with Shield-Hydra

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I hate when plot critical elements rely on intelligent characters being insanely dumb, like villains gloating.
The genius that makes you a master super-villain walks in lockstep with the ego that requires an opportunity to satisfy a gloating quotient. If you don't like that, you may want to consider frequenting another genre.

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"Since I decided to stop gloating to my enemies, all these pathetic heroes who come to stop me, I am finally being successful. I had never thought it. Budgets in my organizations is up 15.000%. I have strong influence in every arena of politics and finance. In every way but the formal, I own the world.
But oh... What is the point?"

Jaelithe |
"Since I decided to stop gloating to my enemies, all these pathetic heroes who come to stop me, I am finally being successful. I had never thought it. Budgets in my organizations is up 15.000%. I have strong influence in every arena of politics and finance. In every way but the formal, I own the world.
But oh... What is the point?"
Is it more important to be eminently successful, or happy doing what you do? :)

Matthew Koelbl |
So, overall I really liked the movie, but did anyone else have an issue with the fact that all of the intelligence they had came from a bad guy deciding he would tell Captain A his evil plot just before he was killed?
It bothered me for a moment, but once I considered it, I realized it wasn't really a problem.
Once Cap recognizes who they are dealing with, he suddenly knows that:
1) A member of HYDRA survived; and
2) Was in some way connected with an early version of SHIELD.
Sure, it might not reveal the specifics of their plans for INSIGHT, but it would still be enough for them to figure out the general gist of what is going on, and that leads them to go after suspicous members of SHIELD, which leads them to Sitwell, who then confesses everything anyway.
So I think the real key was simply finding the facility itself - once they've uncovered that, and have confirmation that something is very wrong with the House of SHIELD, everything else flows naturally from there, regardless of how much Zola blabs to them.

Caineach |

Caineach wrote:So, overall I really liked the movie, but did anyone else have an issue with the fact that all of the intelligence they had came from a bad guy deciding he would tell Captain A his evil plot just before he was killed?It bothered me for a moment, but once I considered it, I realized it wasn't really a problem.
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Superspy, yes. Information gatherer, yes. But she's not the "big picture" person. Natasha's job is to go out and acquire intel, usually as quietly as possible. Her job is not analysis. You usually don't have the same assets that acquire intel analyze it because they usually don't have both skill sets. Even then, once the analysis has been done, that analyst doesn't make any judgment calls on his work, he just passes it on through the channels, and top brass makes their decisions based on that. In this case, Director Fury. Fury is one of the only people in SHIELD that saw everything, and he was the only one to put together the HYDRA conspiracy.
In general, why would you expect a soldier and an assassin, two people who don't see the big picture, to put together a flaw hidden within SHIELD for as long as the organization has been around when the people who do hadn't seen it either?

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Saw it. Mind got blown. Action was amazing. I noted that there were no slo-mo shots. I loved that. Story was good. Acting was great. Characters got developed.
Should have had more Coby Smulders.