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After some discussion in another thread I want to start one on possible Archetypes that people would love to see. I feel from personal experience that some classes/ races don’t get the love that others do.
I will start for me I would love to see an archetype for the ranger that is a spell-less ranger something that can make them more versatile without losing their feel. I know that kobold did a version of this and it is cool but I don’t think they are exactly what one should be. I always viewed Rangers as a spec op guy of Pathfinder able a slew of amazing feats and never be seen (in Favored terrain of course).
There are others I would love to see but the ranger is the only one i actually ever put thought behind.
So to all you out there i know I am not alone what would you like to see there are no bad responses cause its your opinion.
This is an easy one as i have mentioned my wish for this a couple times around here. A Magus archetype for two handed use. I know already spell strike can be used two handed so what we need is something at least sort of useful in place of spellcombat.
Since spellcombat is a very strong ability odds are anything given in its place wont live up to it but ohh well I am not looking for it to be the most powerful Magus ever.
How I would do it is give them weapon focus/specialization as bonus feats and replace spell combat with a special form of vital strike that scales and functions with spellstrike. I know ppl don't like vital strike as a whole but I just love the idea of one big OMG smack laced with a spell.
*cough MCA *cough
hell they could pay those guys for the work they do
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Jive bard. Proficient in firearms, bonus for shooting sideways.
Indiana Jones Inquisitor, expert in the whip, with sneak attack and trapfinding.
Paladinesque inquisitor, with channeling and alignment aura.
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*cough MCA *cough
hell they could pay those guys for the work they do
Wow these are fantastic, why have i never heard of them before?
Isn't that what the Archaeologist Bard is for?Indiana Jones Inquisitor, expert in the whip, with sneak attack and trapfinding.
Paladinesque inquisitor, with channeling and alignment aura.
But I want a divine archaeologist ^^
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I'd like to see some sort of non spell casting wild shape specialist allowing you to play a martial type shape shifter, probably based on ranger.
Also fun would be different alignment archetypes for paladins, letting you make chaotic good freedom fighters and purely lawful justicars.
For the mutagenless alchemist they could make a tinkerer with a clockwork companion instead of their mutagen.
I'd also like to see a version of the rogue or ninja that fights with living shadow, or a true elemental monk so people can play the benders they keep asking about on the advise forum.
Also the MCAs are awesome, they should pay those guys and make them core.
A cleric archetype that completely eschews channel and their charisma dependency and nothing else for something nice.
A druid archetype that totally gets rid of wild shaping.
A cleric archetype that completely eschews channel and their charisma dependency and nothing else for something nice.
A druid archetype that totally gets rid of wild shaping.
Wild child does.
Wild child does.A cleric archetype that completely eschews channel and their charisma dependency and nothing else for something nice.
A druid archetype that totally gets rid of wild shaping.
Its also human specific, illiterate and never gains druidic as a language, and loses proficiency with shields. It trades it out to be something flavorful, not something mechanically useful. Its very different from a normal druid. As with the above one, I'd rather see small archetypes rather than ones that require me to play a completely different class. There is also a dwarf specific cleric that gets rid of channel, but it also gives up freedom of domains, and in some campaigns that means freedom to choose deities.
Its also human specific, illiterate and never gains druidic as a language, and loses proficiency with shields. It trades it out to be something flavorful, not something mechanically useful. Its very different from a normal druid. As with the above one, I'd rather see small archetypes rather than ones that require me to play a completely different class. There is also a dwarf specific cleric that gets rid of channel, but it also gives up freedom of domains, and in some campaigns that means freedom to choose deities.Wild child does.A cleric archetype that completely eschews channel and their charisma dependency and nothing else for something nice.
A druid archetype that totally gets rid of wild shaping.
Never said it was good.
Never said it was good.
That's sort of my problem! I would like to see a skilled cleric too, but the PF cloistered cleric is also pretty awful.
A cleric archetype that completely eschews channel and their charisma dependency and nothing else for something nice.
There's the Forgemaster archetype for Dwarves.
There's the Forgemaster archetype for Dwarves.A cleric archetype that completely eschews channel and their charisma dependency and nothing else for something nice.
Which is great! If I want to be a dwarf and give up my choice of domains, oh! And if I want to craft. The class happens to be big on crafting. Brought that up 10 minutes earlier. Should probably put the word good in front of my thoughts.
*cough MCA *cough
hell they could pay those guys for the work they do
This is incredibly well done. Thank you for sharing this. :O
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I'd like to see an official sorcerer version of the magus, with the option of trading out some of your arcana to pick up bloodline powers.
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I will start for me I would love to see an archetype for the ranger that is a spell-less ranger something that can make them more versatile without losing their feel.
Are you familiar with the Skirmisher? It fits your description perfectly.
Oracles that can pick a bloodline, and Sorcerers that can pick a Mystery.
destruction of the Sorcerer bloodline schtick and hand it out to all characters, and no I don't think eldrtich heritage was enough to rectify since that favors charisma based characters.
Warshaper!
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LE Antipaladin
Cthulhu inspired summoner/witch
a spontaneous caster built around something other then CHA. Don't get me wrong I like charisma casters but I'm really wishing we didn't have to have all spontaneous casters be powered by raw charisma.
A barbarian or fighter archetype that focuses on thrown objects
hobgoblin gunslinger arch
Ohh also totally with the above guy who said mountless cavalier that focuses on tactician.
After some discussion in another thread I want to start one on possible Archetypes that people would love to see. I feel from personal experience that some classes/ races don’t get the love that others do.
I will start for me I would love to see an archetype for the ranger that is a spell-less ranger something that can make them more versatile without losing their feel. I know that kobold did a version of this and it is cool but I don’t think they are exactly what one should be. I always viewed Rangers as a spec op guy of Pathfinder able a slew of amazing feats and never be seen (in Favored terrain of course).
What about the Skirmisher and Trapper archetypes? One replaces spells with hunter's tricks, while the other replaces them with trap abilities. The Skirmisher appears to be exactly what you are asking for, especially since no other class features are modified or replaced.
A wizard that specializes in metamagic. I don't want Incantatrix broken, but an archetype that actually inspires me to use the feats rather than the rods would be nice.
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Definitely a trapper archtype, because I Really wanted to play a gunslinger class, but I also wanted trapfinding. So. I made an Archaeologist Goblin gunslinger! Boom--Bang--lots of noise!
shhh...fancy tools!
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Bard Archetype: Mime
free/spontaneous silent spell and use performance rounds to make small walls of force and other invisible effects.
I like the Gun Bard too, but more along the lines of Archeologist and Gunslinger (but not Mysterious Stranger). I'm not a fan of Grit, so some other form of points like luck points. I had a name like Gambler.
A charisma-based Witch.
The witch should have been Charisma-based anyway, or at least Wisdom.
I vote for some form of Wild Magic, probably as a Sorcerer Archetype taht removes the Bloodline abilities and replaces it with a wild magic/life magic/'stripping your own soul/body/patten for magic' mechanic perhaps taking damage based on the level of the spell (with cantrips doing 1 non-lethal, as even small amount of magic tax the body.) allowing you to cast more spells per day by burning yourself out...?
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For those wanting spont magus/sorcerer magus, I strongly recommend SGG's Vanguard. I'd love to see Paizo do with some of the 3PP classes like they've done with the OGL monsters and 'adopt' them.
Heck, I'd give one of the girls' kidneys for a PFS Vanguard.
Agreed on the Wis-witch.
I'd love to see the Battle Dancer, I think it was called, that Paizo made in the Dragon Compendium. It was essentially a Monk that had a few bardic style abilities and ran on Charisma rather than Wisdom. I figure it's probably too similar to be a separate class now, but it would be a nice archetype.
A Force Mage, a mage based around the use of force spells... along with a compliment of new force spells.
FWIW, I've designed exactly that, spells and all, and the results were a lot of fun and perfectly in line with other classes power-wise.
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Paizo has at least two versions of Rangers without spells. One of them is the Trapster. The other is the Skirmisher. In addition the KQ people have put out a third. So that's three archetypes off the bat that replaces what I call the Ranger's hobby magic.After some discussion in another thread I want to start one on possible Archetypes that people would love to see. I feel from personal experience that some classes/ races don’t get the love that others do.
I will start for me I would love to see an archetype for the ranger that is a spell-less ranger something that can make them more versatile without losing their feel. I know that kobold did a version of this and it is cool but I don’t think they are exactly what one should be. I always viewed Rangers as a spec op guy of Pathfinder able a slew of amazing feats and never be seen (in Favored terrain of course).
There are others I would love to see but the ranger is the only one i actually ever put thought behind.
So to all you out there i know I am not alone what would you like to see there are no bad responses cause its your opinion.
Yep, I like the two spell-less rangers that Paizo has made. I'm actually writing a mini-guide to the Trapper archetype which will be published in next month's Open Gaming Monthly from Fat Goblin Games, so check it out when it's released!
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Honestly, the problem with a Cha based monk or witch is that they are both front loaded in many ways, so you will see even more splashing than you already get with Cha classes. As much as you might want it, it would be unbalanced (Trust me, I would like it, too, as I love Cha characters).
I would love to see non-LG Paladins like the Paladin of Freedom from UA. I know that the Inquisitor sort of fits the role, but it is too much caster vs. martial.
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Honestly, the problem with a Cha based monk or witch is that they are both front loaded in many ways, so you will see even more splashing than you already get with Cha classes. As much as you might want it, it would be unbalanced (Trust me, I would like it, too, as I love Cha characters).
I have a very hard time seeing how a splash of Cha-based Monk is more unbalanced than a splash of Wis-based Monk, especially when you consider that Wisdom is a mechanically superior stat (even though Charisma may better fit your concept).
Honestly, the problem with a Cha based monk or witch is that they are both front loaded in many ways, so you will see even more splashing than you already get with Cha classes. As much as you might want it, it would be unbalanced (Trust me, I would like it, too, as I love Cha characters).I have a very hard time seeing how a splash of Cha-based Monk is more unbalanced than a splash of Wis-based Monk, especially when you consider that Wisdom is a mechanically superior stat (even though Charisma may better fit your concept).
it's not what it does for the monk, but what it does for classes dipping the monk. see my half-hearted attempt to make it work before rainzax came in and saved the day