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DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:JJ has said they avoid doing the same iconics two APs in a row on purpose.zimmerwald1915 wrote:There's no reason she can't appear in two APs in a row, the important thing is the thematics. I think traps will be a big element of this campaign so we'll see Merisiel again.DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:This is a dungeon heavy adventure we'll see Merisiel.Merisiel appeared in Wrath of the Righteous, and I believe this is a McCreary rather than a Jacobs AP.
Dudemeister's right, though. That's a tendency, not an absolute rule, and a tendency to which Merisiel is already one of two exceptions.

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zimmerwald1915 wrote:They also tend to want to include all the iconics at least once, and the iconic Gunslinger, Summoner, Ninja and Antipaladin have yet to appear in an AP (is there an iconic Antipaladin?).Lirianne was in Rasputin Must Die in RoW. One of the coolest pieces of artwork, too.
Well, if you're including all the artwork put into an AP, then Alain, Merisiel, Seoni and Seelah were in there too. I'm talking about the artwork that showcases the party that stands in for the PCs in the AP artwork, and for RoW that's clearly Lini, Feiya, Imrijka, and Valeros.

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The AP iconics are restricted to the adventuyre only. The support articles can have other iconics in them.
They've said that Balazar is unlikely to turn up as an AP iconic, as unlike Lini it's quite difficult to include him but not his Eidolon, which makes art more difficult and crowded, and also might lead to some artists presuming that this monstrous thing they've been given to draw is an opponent of the adventurers.
There is no Iconic Antipaladin.

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They've said that Balazar is unlikely to turn up as an AP iconic, as unlike Lini it's quite difficult to include him but not his Eidolon, which makes art more difficult and crowded, and also might lead to some artists presuming that this monstrous thing they've been given to draw is an opponent of the adventurers.
I've started noticing that there is rarely more than two iconics at once in the recent APs' artwork. It makes me wonder if that was to cut down on overcrowding as I have to think it's a design choice and not a coincidence.

The Block Knight |

Just got back from vacation and caught up on the thread. I just want to apologize to the staff (and others) for participating in the big derail. My tangential nature got the better of me.
So, I know a lot of the talk at GenCon was about Iron Gods (woohoo!) but was there anymore discussion about Mummy's Mask as well?

Prophet of Doom |
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In case you haven't seen it, this is the release schedule of the Mummy's Mask from the 2013-14 catalog.
Osirion: Legacy of the Pharaohs and People of the Sands in December should give us some good clues as to what is going to happen. They did Osirion Land of Pharaohs in 2008. I wonder if it is going to be the same stuff as last time.
I really wish they could release the pawn collection sooner.
Mummy’s Mask 1: The Half-Dead City (February 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 2: Empty Graves (March 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 3: Shifting Sands (April 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 4: Secrets of the Sphinx (May 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 5: The Slave Trenches of Hakotep (June 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 6: Pyramid of the Sky Pharaoh (July 2014)
ASSOCIATED PRODUCTS
Osirion: Legacy of Pharaohs (December 2013)
People of the Sands (December 2013)
Mummy’s Mask Item Cards (February 2014)
Mummy’s Mask Poster Map Folio (July 2014)
Mummy’s Mask Pawn Collection (September 2014)
Mummy’s Mask Face Cards (October 2014)

Gancanagh |

In case you haven't seen it, this is the release schedule of the Mummy's Mask from the 2013-14 catalog.
Osirion: Legacy of the Pharaohs and People of the Sands in December should give us some good clues as to what is going to happen. They did Osirion Land of Pharaohs in 2008. I wonder if it is going to be the same stuff as last time.
I really wish they could release the pawn collection sooner.
Mummy’s Mask 1: The Half-Dead City (February 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 2: Empty Graves (March 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 3: Shifting Sands (April 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 4: Secrets of the Sphinx (May 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 5: The Slave Trenches of Hakotep (June 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 6: Pyramid of the Sky Pharaoh (July 2014)
Thanks for that info! Very cool!!
Too bad this AP is kinda shoved under the Desert Sands when Iron Gods was announced.

Riggler |

I'll let the others have their little party over in the Iron Gods thread. Not going to rain on all those excited for that AP's parade. Myself, this is the AP I'll be buying next year.
Legacy of Fire
Skulls and Shackles
Mummy's Mask
That's the 4.5 year plan I have now that I'm halfway through with. Should be ready to start running Mummy's Mask just as the final volume is coming out.

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Prophet of Doom wrote:In case you haven't seen it, this is the release schedule of the Mummy's Mask from the 2013-14 catalog.
Osirion: Legacy of the Pharaohs and People of the Sands in December should give us some good clues as to what is going to happen. They did Osirion Land of Pharaohs in 2008. I wonder if it is going to be the same stuff as last time.
I really wish they could release the pawn collection sooner.
Mummy’s Mask 1: The Half-Dead City (February 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 2: Empty Graves (March 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 3: Shifting Sands (April 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 4: Secrets of the Sphinx (May 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 5: The Slave Trenches of Hakotep (June 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 6: Pyramid of the Sky Pharaoh (July 2014)Thanks for that info! Very cool!!
Too bad this AP is kinda shoved under the Desert Sands when Iron Gods was announced.
not for me:) I. CAN'T. WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Just got back from vacation and caught up on the thread. I just want to apologize to the staff (and others) for participating in the big derail. My tangential nature got the better of me.
So, I know a lot of the talk at GenCon was about Iron Gods (woohoo!) but was there anymore discussion about Mummy's Mask as well?
YES.
There will likely be material about how certain Egyptian gods fit into Osirioni belief.
Also, they didn't come right out and say it IIRC, but...

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Prophet of Doom wrote:In case you haven't seen it, this is the release schedule of the Mummy's Mask from the 2013-14 catalog.
Osirion: Legacy of the Pharaohs and People of the Sands in December should give us some good clues as to what is going to happen. They did Osirion Land of Pharaohs in 2008. I wonder if it is going to be the same stuff as last time.
I really wish they could release the pawn collection sooner.
Mummy’s Mask 1: The Half-Dead City (February 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 2: Empty Graves (March 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 3: Shifting Sands (April 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 4: Secrets of the Sphinx (May 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 5: The Slave Trenches of Hakotep (June 2014)
Mummy’s Mask 6: Pyramid of the Sky Pharaoh (July 2014)Thanks for that info! Very cool!!
Too bad this AP is kinda shoved under the Desert Sands when Iron Gods was announced.
Every year when Paizo announces makes the GenCon AP announcement, the AP that was announced at PaizoCon stops being talked about for a while as people assimilate the information and excitement of the newest announcement. By the end of the Month I believe that things will have balanced and Mummy's Mask will again be the 2014 AP people are focusing most on. As Iron Gods approaches people will start swinging toward that and then the PaizoCon announcement of the next AP will hit and people will be going berserk over that.
Strangely, assuming PFS continues the trend of aligning the Season with one of the APs that comes out in the same year. I hope Season 6 of PFS is more pointed at Osirion, and Mummy's Mask, than at Numeria, despite my joy at the Iron Gods AP.
Also I have no doubt that Paizo will still put just as much quality, effort, and brilliance into Mummy's Mask as they have into each of their previous APs.

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It's not an iconic character though for one reason. The art was not done by Wayne Reynolds. James Jacobs has said as much. It's a representation of an Anti-Paladin, but because WAR didn't do the original art it will never be the iconic.

Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal |

Enlight_Bystand wrote:The handsome fellow on page 123 of the Advanced Player's Guide disagrees with you. With his sword.
There is no Iconic Antipaladin.
That is a Antipaladin. That is not the Iconic Antipaladin. Paizo staff members are on record as having said the only Iconics are the characters they have commissioned Wayne Reynolds to make full-figure portraits of for a specific Player Class. Paizo has not commissioned Wayne Reynolds for such a picture of that guy, therefore he is not the iconic. At some point they may, but until that point, no.
They may also decide they want Wayne Reynolds to do a different individual as the Antipaladin Iconic.edit: Ninja'd by Corie Marie. Also, way off-topic. I wanna talk about Mummy's Mask stuff in this thread.

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Random made-up predictions;
Mummy’s Mask 1: The Half-Dead City (February 2014)
A necropolis being excavated by a tent-city worth of (mostly foreign) explorers experiences a series of terrible 'accidents' as the explorers dug too greedily and too deep and called up something they could not put down. An advisor to the Ruby Prince hires you to deal with the situation.
Mummy’s Mask 2: Empty Graves (March 2014)
The ancient horror has now sounded his clarion call and summoned his army of mummified not-terra-cotta warriors to slough off the sleep of centuries and march off into the desert to await his next command.
Mummy’s Mask 3: Shifting Sands (April 2014)
A sandstorm that moves like a living malign entity sweeps over one or more cities, as cover for the inevitable assault by the undead army of the risen pharaoh.
Mummy’s Mask 4: Secrets of the Sphinx (May 2014)
To defeat the risen pharaoh, the PCs are sent by their trusty NPC advisor to learn how he was put down and sealed + buried many centuries before, by consulting a sphinx who was said to have advised those who beat him originally! Being whacky, she requires them to pass all sorts of tests, some of which, her being crazy like a fox, involve gathering together items they will need to defeat the risen pharaoh anyway.
While there, you also have to defend the sphinx from assassins sent by the risen pharaoh to kill her before revealing his weakness!
Mummy’s Mask 5: The Slave Trenches of Hakotep (June 2014)
The angry enslaved elemental forces of the slave trenches must be harnessed to oppose the army of the risen pharaoh, freeing them from Hakotep's ancient bindings? Or perhaps Hakotep *is* the risen pharaoh, and the party must free the bound elementals before he taps their power and using them to enhance his army / himself / call down earthquakes on cities that do not recognize his claim to rulership over 'Greater Osirion' (Osirion, Thuvia and Rahadoum)?
Mummy’s Mask 6: Pyramid of the Sky Pharaoh (July 2014)
His army broken, you now take the fight to the sky pharaoh himself, in his flying pyramid. If you win, it falls from the sky and is destroyed, so you don't get to keep it.
Oh snap, the sky pharaoh is also your trusty advisor from scene 1! He's been totally playing you all along!
A giant golden scarab atop the pyramid can focus the light of the sun to burninate the dickens out of forces that engage this floating fortress during the day, making a nighttime assault (when his undead minions are at their strongest) a necessity.
Osirion: Legacy of Pharaohs (December 2013)
People of the Sands (December 2013)
I will own these. Oh yes.

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Oh please, let this be the AP where the treasure appendix includes a ring of meld into stone. I'd like to see an official cost and the Ruby Prince's elementals and large stone blocks would be thematically appropriate.

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Maybe there'll be a stone block of meld into stone, 10 ft. by 10 ft. by 10 ft., weighing approximately (does math...) 83.25 tons. Anyone who knows the command word can walk right through it into the Ruby Prince's sacred snack chamber.
To everyone else it's an impassable (Hardness 8, 1800 hp to punch a hole through) rock with a moderate aura of transmutation. :)

Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal |

I'm honestly torn on whether I want to run or play in this.
Set, your prediction post made that dilemma even worse. D:
so excited, this in between Wrath of the Righteous and Iron Gods is like the best Oreo ever
Dude, my Wallet may never recover. I used to be able to rely on every other AP being something I would comfortably sit out.
I haven't been able to do that Since Shattered Star. The Last AP I genuinely felt 'Meh' about was Skull & Shackles. Right now my only hope is that the Early 2015 AP is...At this point, I'm not certain what would manage to be mediocre enough to save me financially.

ThatEvilGuy |

Mikaze wrote:I'm honestly torn on whether I want to run or play in this.
Set, your prediction post made that dilemma even worse. D:
so excited, this in between Wrath of the Righteous and Iron Gods is like the best Oreo ever
Dude, my Wallet may never recover. I used to be able to rely on every other AP being something I would comfortably sit out.
I haven't been able to do that Since Shattered Star. The Last AP I genuinely felt 'Meh' about was Skull & Shackles. Right now my only hope is that the Early 2015 AP is...
At this point, I'm not certain what would manage to be mediocre enough to save me financially.
Behold the long awaited 2015 Adventure Path featuring the PCs as lumberjacks forced to work for the Lumber Consortium. Gasp at the levels of mundane epicness over the course of six volumes of different months chopping down trees, being threatened and dealing with paying bills, all culminating in an epic decision where the PCs must choose whether to stay part of the system, or finally break free from the oppressive drudgery and change careers to something more rewarding.
An Adventure Path that takes characters from levels 1 through... well, you may reach level 2, or 3. Maybe.
Your wallet is saved!

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Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal wrote:Mikaze wrote:I'm honestly torn on whether I want to run or play in this.
Set, your prediction post made that dilemma even worse. D:
so excited, this in between Wrath of the Righteous and Iron Gods is like the best Oreo ever
Dude, my Wallet may never recover. I used to be able to rely on every other AP being something I would comfortably sit out.
I haven't been able to do that Since Shattered Star. The Last AP I genuinely felt 'Meh' about was Skull & Shackles. Right now my only hope is that the Early 2015 AP is...
At this point, I'm not certain what would manage to be mediocre enough to save me financially.Behold the long awaited 2015 Adventure Path featuring the PCs as lumberjacks forced to work for the Lumber Consortium. Gasp at the levels of mundane epicness over the course of six volumes of different months chopping down trees, being threatened and dealing with paying bills, all culminating in an epic decision where the PCs must choose whether to stay part of the system, or finally break free from the oppressive drudgery and change careers to something more rewarding.
An Adventure Path that takes characters from levels 1 through... well, you may reach level 2, or 3. Maybe.
Your wallet is saved!
Then again....if the BBEG is Don Cheadle Captain Planet...
That wallet is screwed again. As are the PCs, actually...

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Mikaze wrote:I'm honestly torn on whether I want to run or play in this.
Set, your prediction post made that dilemma even worse. D:
so excited, this in between Wrath of the Righteous and Iron Gods is like the best Oreo ever
Dude, my Wallet may never recover. I used to be able to rely on every other AP being something I would comfortably sit out.
I haven't been able to do that Since Shattered Star. The Last AP I genuinely felt 'Meh' about was Skull & Shackles. Right now my only hope is that the Early 2015 AP is...
At this point, I'm not certain what would manage to be mediocre enough to save me financially.
If I'm doing my job right ( with James and Rob, of course), you're doomed.
Kinda sorry. ;)

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The Block Knight wrote:Just got back from vacation and caught up on the thread. I just want to apologize to the staff (and others) for participating in the big derail. My tangential nature got the better of me.
So, I know a lot of the talk at GenCon was about Iron Gods (woohoo!) but was there anymore discussion about Mummy's Mask as well?
YES.
There will likely be material about how certain Egyptian gods fit into Osirioni belief.
Also, they didn't come right out and say it IIRC, but...
** spoiler omitted **
Actually I watched a video of the panel... and they *did* just come right out and say that! It was Jacobs who said it, I think :D

Jim Groves Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4 |

There was video?
Adam,
Know Direction took a video. I watched it. I believe I recall them saying what Lord Snow is describing in this one.
It is a long interview and I think it was in the middle somewhere. Good luck!

Feros |

Adam Daigle wrote:There was video?Adam,
Know Direction took a video. I watched it. I believe I recall them saying what Lord Snow is describing in this one.
It is a long interview and I think it was in the middle somewhere. Good luck!
7 minutes and 45 seconds in.

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He said 'Set.' I swooned a little.
Ha. He also mentioned Isis. Talk about a PR triumph. The first necromancer who defied the finality of death by stitching together her dead husband and turning him into an abomination, and then *slept with him,* and she's all beloved and stuff. History is fickle!
Still, if they go that route, perhaps she'll (and / or Osirus and Nephthys?) be a patron for good necromancers, since she's like a prettier Urgathoa?

Black Dougal |

If we talking about flying pyramids and Aliens..
well ok..
I want the party to find a crystal skull, which is actually the phylactery of an alien Lich.
I want one of the party members to be forced to be a rogue whose mentor is this older guy NPC who once jumped into a large iron coffin to escape a abyssium charged delayed blast fireball trap..
when the other pc's ask why the NPC doesn't return the skull, he notes it because he had jumped the nuked fridge

captain yesterday |

If we talking about flying pyramids and Aliens..
well ok..
I want the party to find a crystal skull, which is actually the phylactery of an alien Lich.
I want one of the party members to be forced to be a rogue whose mentor is this older guy NPC who once jumped into a large iron coffin to escape a abyssium charged delayed blast fireball trap..
when the other pc's ask why the NPC doesn't return the skull, he notes it because he had jumped the nuked fridge
I don't get it? is that from a movie? tv show? saturday morning cartoon? sounds like it could be from any or a collage of all three:)

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Black Dougal wrote:I don't get it? is that from a movie? tv show? saturday morning cartoon? sounds like it could be from any or a collage of all three:)If we talking about flying pyramids and Aliens..
well ok..
I want the party to find a crystal skull, which is actually the phylactery of an alien Lich.
I want one of the party members to be forced to be a rogue whose mentor is this older guy NPC who once jumped into a large iron coffin to escape a abyssium charged delayed blast fireball trap..
when the other pc's ask why the NPC doesn't return the skull, he notes it because he had jumped the nuked fridge
Latest Indiana Jones movie

BigWeather |

BigWeather wrote:IJ4 was OK, not great, but certainly didn't ruin the series for me. The SW prequels, on the other hand...Interesting. While I didn't love the prequel trilogy I did appreciate the storyline minus Jar Jar Binx.
Actually I didn't mind AotC or RotS much -- the story was decent, the locations interesting enough, and ignoring the "NoooooOOOooooOO!" at the end I had a good time. tPM, though, man... I just can't get past it. That and the terrible romance scenes in II and III.
IJ4 I enjoyed except for the Tarzan scene and the double-triple-oh-I-just-don't-care-anymore betrayals of that guy. I was fine with nuking the fridge and all, he's Indy, cuh-razy stuff happens and he survives. I was even fine with the nature of the plot -- it is exactly what I'd expect of a pulp film set in the 50s -- and with Harrison Ford's age they really couldn't visit much earlier.
As for the AP, I couldn't be more excited. My favorite AD&D module was Pharaoh (have my original signed by Hickman back in the 80s, even) and I love everything Egyptian. Then to follow it up with Numeria stuff -- my second favorite module was Expedition to the Barrier Peaks. I can't wait!