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Kevin Mack wrote:
Out of curiosity where is the current placeholder art from?

The background art is the opener from the Brutal Slavers chapter of the villain codex. I couldn't find the foreground piece.

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logic_poet wrote:
Is this the issue with Chonax in the Codex of Worlds entry, or Echidea?

By inference, it's Chonax.

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Thanks James in the other issues' threads! For completeness, this issue has Morta Valaskin and Kellen Carondil. Also, there is a new downtime action, but it is not for the Citadel Altaerein.

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Which Suskillon system planet appears in this issue's Codex of Worlds?

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For the benefit of GMs running the campaign as issues appear, which Breachhill NPCs will be detailed on the inside back cover of this issue?

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Which NPCs will be detailed on the inside back cover of this?

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Can someone with their pdf copy post who are the NPCs on the inside back cover? It might be useful to GMs running this AP before all the issues are out to know which Breachhill NPCs make an appearance.

Are there any more downtime actions for PC, like for their citadel?

Thanks!

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I'd like part of the discussion to key on the success of the Second Darkness AP. Like how has the world reacted to learning about the drow, how is the elf/drow conflict going, has Telandia Edasseril married, what has happened to the Winter Council and the Lanternbears, have the drow reversed engineered the spell from Endless Night and infiltrated the surface further, if so where exactly, did Allevrah Azrinae's failure spark more than the usual political churn in Zirnakaynin, etc. Also, if there was darklands unrest sparked by that AP, how is it related to the Shensen & the other Silver Ravens being out of town in Tomorrow Must Burn?

Some minor questions:
So, who's the new management at The Rusty Dragon?

Westcrown has seen a lot of unrest; what's Amaya Kaijitsu up to these days?

How's Anastasia Romanova working out in Irrisen?

Any big developments in the non-Minkai parts of Tian Xia since the last time the setting looked in on it?

Assuming the Year of the Stolen Storm happened in the default Golarion, what efforts are underway to free the three still-trapped Elemental Lords of Good? In my head, the guardians of Marudshar were corrupted minions of Ranginori, and that valley might now be ripe for a visit! (That red-toned illustration on p54 of 9020 is still one of my all time favorites for being so evocative.)

Since certain of the orbs of dragonkind and runelords' swords and polearms have appeared lately, what other major artifacts have surfaced in the past ten campaign years? In general, do the artifacts of Golarion appear clustered in time, like how it was done in Age of Worms? By the same token, so DMs can avoid homebrewing something that will soon conflict with forthcoming material, are there any heretofore obscure artifacts from Artifacts & Legends that will soon appear in Paizo products?

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At last, final art. Alas, thumbnail size only. Looking good though.

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Yes, that was all episode 20 from last week.

Predictions for the ep 21 this Thursday:
Will the knights want to know about the old badge? Maybe! I suppose it depends on if that gets mentioned.

Will the party meet the left-behind squire? Maybe! But I kind of hope he's chilling in Absalom by now.

Will the party meet a possibly Varisian fortune-teller who has enough Occultism to give them useful intelligence on the key? Maybe!

Will they meet some druids who wonder just what they think they're doing with the owlbear cub? Maybe! Depends on how far downstream they manage to get, I think.

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Is this the issue with Chonax in the Codex of Worlds entry, or Echidea?

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On reflection, I think Extinction Curse, Agents of Edgewatch, and the yet-unamed AP could make a trilogy of sorts.
1. Trying to get to Absalom in EC.
2. In Absalom in AOE.
3. Leaving Absalom?

So maybe another AP where they are Pathfinders, like in Shattered Star. Pai-shay Wonderseeker keeps a chapterhouse in Absalom. The Firebrands are big in Absalom and the LO Character Guide text mentions they will have material in that book, so maybe they could be a patron. Or maybe they work for the Arcanamirium. Diplomats or knights of Lastwall going around the Inner Sea trying to rally opposition to Tar-Baphon might be viable.

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What's Barsala's alignment?

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Not quite the full Council of Elrond, but deciding mostly to go downstream towards Absalom was about as expected for a party that likes to go with the flow. Perhaps Omesta and Tar Kazmukh will appear in other Paizo products.

Is the bard Serrina joining the trip to Absalom, staying in Tymon, heading for Erages to see if her brother reaches the far shore safely in this life, or what, exactly? I got that she wasn't going with Zel, but not whether she was parting from all the party, now that she's free of Razmir.

Zel managed to remember to get some potions, but I wonder who has the old badge now. Maybe some future time will reveal that he managed to sleight of hand it into Mykah's pocket as a parting gift. Or maybe he plans to keep it in case he needs to present a fraudulent credential someday.

On a lighter note, hurrah for the family reunification. And also for the kids managing to go a day feeding a dangerous beast by hand while retaining all their fingers! I feel like the over/under on just how long that continues should be a chat pool or poll.

Lastly, this long voyage down the Sellen looks like a good place to show off downtime and exploration mode.

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Three adventures into Age of Ashes, I'm liking it. The exploration so far seems to be a good mix of being about the location, and about the inhabitants. I am also finding it somewhat reminiscent of Reign of Winter, like an echo or reflection. Having a magic transportation mcguffin really takes the travail out of the travel, for better and for worse. From the description of Extinction Curse and Agents of Edgewatch, I want the next AP to be less local and have more of a feel where the voyage is the adventure, like Jade Regent, but warmer, ideally. Some possible road trip suggestions:

1. The change to Taldor's succession law interests Qadira and the Padishah empire decides not to just delegate the diplomacy. The PCs somehow distinguish themselves in the capital of one empire in adventure 1, the middle of the AP is escorting a diplomatic mission with a caravan subsystem, and the final adventure is all about making a good impression on the host nation, and justifying their decisions in the earlier adventures, with consequences like at the end of War for the Crown depending on how they behaved. In particular, adventure 6 is kind of like the now-canon diplomatic outcome of Vault of the Onyx Citadel, but with plenty of expectation management along the way to make clear that the diplomatic outcome is the correct end goal. Don't really care if the trip is east-bound or west-bound.

2. An NPC patron in Azir questions the Laws of Man and decides to go on a spiritual pilgrimage, or maybe has been a heretic for some time and is found out. Maybe they have to disguise themselves as merchants until clear of Rahadoum, or maybe they are the chosen family of an NPC cast out for theism. The adventures are as much about an arduous journey as they are about an interior striving for a connection to the divine. Don't really care if the final scene is attending the patron's joymaking in Pangolais, lighting candles at Iomedae's temple in Absalom after seeing the sites of all the Acts, donating Zen and the Art of Broomstick Maintenance to a grand temple to Nethys, or drinking in a random tavern where they all kick back and celebrate hitting the best Caydenite bars in the Inner Sea.

3. Somewhat less like Jade Regent and more like Age of Ashes but an inversion of Skull & Shackles. In adventure 1, the PCs are clutch help in a relatively cosmopolitan port such as Absalom, Katapesh, Niswan, Quantium, or Mechitar. Convinced they are just the freaks the ship needs, they join on to a ship that looks like a sailing vessel, but once out of sight of land is revealed actually to be an airship. The plan is to explore places like the Impossible Lands, Holomog, Murraseth, and other parts of southern Garund. In any case, the PCs are always the A-Team Away Team. Don't really care if the PCs return to their point of origin or make Anthusis or Senghor their destination, but at the end of the AP, I'm left with a feeling like I was just part of a blend of something new, Sinbad, Dragon Magazine's The Voyage of the Princess Ark, and Gail Carriger's The Custard Protocol.

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1. Age of Worms is heavy on the Greyhawk nostalgia. Depending on where you set RTOEE, that may matter to you. The other two magazine APs start on the edge of the Flanaess map, and are therefore easier to transplant. The first adventure in all three magazine APs each have fairly large dungeons, while Runelords has several smaller dungeons (the final dungeon I would say is more medium size, but YMMV). So which is easier to prep depends on whether you need to spend your time on the setting, or lining up the stats to monsters and NPCs. Unlike the others, Runelords is the start of a trilogy, is set in Golarion, and is pretty tied into an important part of the history of Golarion, so if you do not play in that setting, transplanting it out of there could be a major prep challenge.

2. I would say that the overarching plot of the entire AP is most obvious from the beginning in Savage Tide, though it is not too obvious until adventure two or three, and just who is the ultimate villain takes even longer to become clear. Shackled City has a quest giver for the first few adventures, but the main villain and driving force/plot of the AP is the most obscure and difficult to discern, so the last few adventures may be one long instance of "who are these people, and why am I fighting them?" This weakness was noticed at the time and is still present even in the hardcover. AOW is about saving Oerth from the end of the world, but will likely appear initially to be about reassembling the rod of seven parts, if anything. Also, in AOW there is an adventure that almost certainly can not work as well as intended with only one player, though to say more would be to spoil it. As part of the Greyhawk cranked to 11, AOW also has a few call-backs to various adventures that appeared in Dungeon magazine around the same time, which might go over your player's head completely.

3. Without more information, it's hard to answer this question. With 1 player / multiple PCs, I'd guess SC or ST are the best options of the four you offered. The ideal choice may be one of the other 3.5 Pathfinder APs. Curse of the Crimson Throne, Second Darkness, and Legacy of Fire may be worth considering, as each is both self-contained and much less tied to the Golarion setting than ROTR. SD needs a bit of work particularly in adventure 5, and some expectation management in the early adventures, but this is actually easier with only 1 player. ("Hey, you with the heroes: This AP is about saving the world, not the small time scam you started with in the starting town" might be enough.) All six volumes of SD are still available for $5 each here. SD may be easiest if the player is willing to try an all-elf party.

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4. How many new themes appear?
5. Are there finally any themes that grant Acrobatics and Stealth as class skills via their theme knowledges? I can't wait to play a goblin that flew away to join the space circus!
6. What is the organizing conceit for the new themes? (For instance, n per ability score, or x per class.)
7. What's Barsala's theme, or whatever her name is?
8. What else can you say about the new iconic's backstory?
9. When will the new iconics join the pregenerated character pdf?

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I was using Google and paizo.com search feature to try and find out if the three new classes' iconics had been previewed yet, and that fragment turned up identically under both Tags / Witchwarpers and Tags / Zemir in the Paizo search.

Now that I try another tab to repeat the technique, I suspect Barsala is the biohacker. Vanguard is too common a word for it to pop out.

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From Thursday, September 26, 2019:
Iconic Encounter: The Scientific Method ... Thursday, September 26, 2019 ... It was well after midnight when Barsala had her breakthrough. ... She was in the temporary laboratory structure built for her by Iratha Incorporated deep in the swamps of Zulypsindo, a Near Space world known for its extensive marshlands and the site of the latest episode of “Dr. B’s Science Jubilee.” The windowless,...

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Somehow, I found this evidence in support of this thread title.:
Pushing aside his fear, Zemir leaned back in his chair and cleared his mind. In an instant he sorted through a thousand iterations of this crash landing and clung to just one—the one where everyone survived. ... “Hard to starboard!” Zemir boomed. “Aim for that plateau—it’s our only shot!” ... “You heard him!” Navasi shouted, cutting in the ship’s retro-thrusters to try to slow its

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So when do we get to read the iconic encounter with this tag? And what theme is Zemir, the iconic witchwarper? Ar the three new classes going to use up the themes in the core rulebook? What alignments are they? What are their names? Will they be added to the pregens pdf?

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Rysky wrote:
... Owlbears are animals, they're not innately evil.

Those two orphans-in-waiting look like they have a bleak future. I hope Cheapy ends up fulfilling his animal nature in the pit of Tymon, after being exchanged to redeem someone capable of moral reasoning. I guess I should have said "eat" instead "murder". But then, I've never been a pet person, and have always preferred playing clerics to druids. Hopefully this week will see the players reach a similar conclusion, but if not, that storyline could be interesting too.

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vagrant-poet wrote:
Wow. Can't wait to find out who that's a quote from.

It's from Winston Churchill to the House of Commons, in the speech "The Locust Years," 1936-11-12, where he was complaining that the Baldwin government was spending too little on defense.

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A stupid, nameless owlbear cub, which in due course will surely murder the party if given the chance, somehow merits more compassion than the family of 3 people? Pharasma weeps.

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Thanks, I looked at one of my subscription items and it now says that I purchased it today, like the usual pending message. The regular pending email now shows up with the items in a new order number (Order 8154208). Thanks!

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“The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays is coming to its close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences.”

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I have some subscription and one-off items which have been stuck in sidecart purgatory. I think the problem may be the now-unavailable QWSSPATD20SF (Starfinder d20), but I have no way to really tell. It may also be because last month I started a subscription. This is has been a hanging problem that has persisted with a bunch of pins I ordered back in August not shipping. Since some of the items are limited run, like Skitter Crash and We Be Heroes, can you divide the order into things that are actually available, and things that are not, so that the subscriptions and such ship during the subscription shipping window?

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Thanks for kicking loose the pdfs!

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I talked to Sam about this earlier today, but so far, nothing seems to have shipped. What's the status with the items that are not out of stock?

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What a hoot dinner with their new gracious host will surely be!

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Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:

... I just realized there’s an exclamation point at the end of Swarm.

That’s gonna bug me.

I find that it's much less annoying and much more ominous if you parse it as a clicking sound.

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I disapprove of dropping the issue numbers, and hope that's soon corrected.

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Steve Geddes wrote:
NielsenE wrote:
When should we start worrying about our August subscription sitting in Pending? Got the email that my subscriptions were processing/etc 8 days ago. Saw the post that shipping was delayed until this week due to needing more time for Customer Service to catch up on post-GenCon backlog of requests. I know it takes time to process and usually I don't mind waiting, but so excited for so many things in this shipment that its getting difficult. When's it appropriate to ping CS asking about a particular order? I'm guessing we're not at that point yet, but was hopping to know when it would be :)

August 28th.

If you check the first post in this thread it shows when all orders should be shipped out. Each month, the CS team are pretty good at updating the OP if things shift around (so at this stage, August 28th is the best date we have). The order in which subscription orders are spawned is not necessarily the same as the order in which they ship out. Those emails with their estimated shipping windows are not very reliable, in my experience.

It's a pain when one's shipment is held up past the window (since you feel like you've wasted a week or two by not asking about it earlier). Nonetheless, most of the time checking on a subscription during the shipping process will just tie up CS resources and probably result in a "everything looks fine" response.

Does this also apply if the subscription items' pages say they are in the sidecart, but there is no pending order email?

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I added a subscription to these two orders, and I think it triggered a bug. I haven't seen a pending email for my existing subscriptions, though a visit to those pages says they're in my side cart. Also, the link to Order History under My Account goes to a golem placeholder page that looks leftover from a playtest.

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Should the system say that my subscription items are in my sidecart if the order is pending? Or should it say something else? I haven't seen my usual pending order email.

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Create a Forgery is a trained Society skill use. Is anyone in the party trained in it?

I guess Tymon is wiser than trying for Caliphas. And the River Kingdoms are probably the nearest plausible exit, so it's more practical than the 5 Kings or Kyonin options. Depending on how close Dead Goat and Thronestep are, it looks like 100 miles to the West Sellen, which would be 5-6 days in exploration mode travel. Not sure how it will be any use for their long-term problem though. Probably punting on the issue was the best option. But don't tarry in Tymon long, for fear the curse triggers while in town. With their luck, it would be right when they're attempting skullduggery under the arena.

I wonder if they'll bother with new fake names.

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Just want to repeat what I said in another thread, but it would be super great if the Pathfinder-Rulebooks-Downloads link had the character sheets from the blog post. That link already has the first edition character sheet and the errata, so it would be the logical place. Hope this helps somebody using the search someday.

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It would be super fantastic if the pdf files get links on the Downloads link from the Pathfinder-Rulebooks-Downloads dropdown in the top ribbon, because in a month, I'll never find them again, I fear.

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Any word on if the character sheet will be its own download like in PF1? My chapterwise download has it in the Appendix, but I was hoping for just the 4 pages of it.

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I get that the rest of Isger is not of too much importance to this campaign, but I found the lack of labels on the roads out of town a little confusing.

Given what I read about secret passages and such, I'm assuming that since Citadel Altaerein is NE of town, it is on the north side of the river, and that the way to reach it is to take the road running NW out of town, because it climbs the rise labelled on the western edge. Is that right? I'm assuming yes and inferring that the described road to the keep is a spur off of this road, which goes somewhere important enough to be traveled.

Most of the descriptions imply the keep is 1 mile away, but page 63 has it as 10 miles.

Also, where do the three roads going out of town lead, in general? Does the road running to the eastern edge of the map go to Andoran, Druma, or the mountainous spit of Cheliax on the Inner Sea Primer map? For the road going northwest, does that go to Cheliax, deeper into Isger, or Molthune? How is it different from the road running west on the southern bank of the Breach Creek?

To be clear, which direction is Breach Creek's downstream? Does it end at sea, and if so how does it drain, by which I mean Lake Encarthan in Molthune, LE in Druma, direct to the Inner Sea via a river in Andoran, or via Cheliax? Or does it just empty into some smaller lake somewhere?

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Hoping that this caravan brings the table back up to standard strength.

Maybe no one wants to plan because nobody took Society?

Has anybody other than Bulmanh counted the days between the times when the key activates? That might be worth trying to work out, and makes a nice reason to keep a journal.

The Wherever-Kerse-Peddlegate-Tar Kazmukh option looks even better, now that I've looked at the Druma book.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
There's a relatively large amount of roleplaying in this adventure. I think Amanda did an incredible job presenting not just a really fun dungeon to explore, but coming up with a LARGE number of fun NPCs to interract with, both in the dungeon itself and in town. It's going to be serving in the background as the PCs' home town after all, and I think Breachill will do fine. We'll be putting 2 town NPC capsules in the inside cover of every volume too to continue building up the locals as well.

Thank you (and Captain Yesterday) for putting my fears to rest.

That is a great idea to flesh out the town with the 2 NPCs per book.

1. Are settlement stat blocks no longer a thing in SE?

2. Is there a map of Breechill with a good resolution?
I have forgotten, if there will be a Players Guide or not, sorry.
I know that Paizo hasn't announced yet if there will be a "Map Folio" product going forward & wouldn't expect one before march 2020 (product pages are currently created including february 20).

Thank you for your time! :-)

Player's guide has been confirmed, but there is no announced ETA as yet.

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I'll try to spawn a non-rules thread for this, since I can't watch in real time and join the chat. I like this stream, and the more I watch, the more the entertainment comes from wanting to scream advice at the screen, horror movie style.

Things that I've thought more than once:


  • The players seem determined not to have the scene where they create, present, and discuss the relative merits of various long-term plans for their tattoo situation and settle on which one they ought to pursue. Almost as if it was some secret conspiracy among them. Like each time they rest or come to a role-playing dialogue encounter, Jason's face looks like he's thinking this will be the time where they take stock and reflect in character, it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen, this time, by the tactical grace of Torag, let this be the time. But it keeps not happening. That's got to be frustrating for GMJB, but his suffering is also kind of hilarious. If I've caught on to the secret plot to torment Jason, please keep this Lucy and the football gag running! Hang in there Chuck^H^H^H^H^HBulmahn, eventually, someday your Council of Elrond will happen!

  • It's a key so old that the markings are worn faint, though once intricate. The knight's order's heraldry and badge are so old that no one recognizes it as contemporary. Before the passing of Qundle, the knight's death looked like he Chose Poorly at the grail lineup, perhaps as if his life had been magically sustained for who knows how many ages. Their homeland/point of origin was a nation founded in opposition to someone so old as to have been a contemporary of the person responsible for the PCs' calendar. (Who also just so happens to be a powerful necromancer.) If I was on that couch, I'd be arguing about what's the best angle into Kyonin and how what we're doing right now will help us get there even faster. Maybe Zel would have an antiquities connect in Erages. Or maybe Mykah has always wanted to see Omesta. Or if they think elves are icky, maybe they figure the knight was headed for Greengold to book passage to Cassomir and thence Absalom. Or maybe Carina is going to convince the group that the well-inked Blue Warders of Tar-Kazmukh have the sweet abjurations they all so desperately need.

  • Kerse and Macridi en route to the Five Kings Mountains for the tie-in to the last of the old campaign setting products seems like a marketing opportunity. Maybe Kyonin is just not in the cards.

  • I keep thinking about that squire left on the dock, and how he will eventually make his way to whatever town the knight was going, and wait. Like he's sitting in some adventurer bar somewhere because he's too ashamed or clueless to go back to Lastwall and fess up to missing the Sleepy Seacat. Did he take the very next barge and has he been waiting in Kerse wondering about the overdue boat all this time? Perhaps he fell in with a Varisian caravan going all the way to Absalom. Or maybe he made it to Caliphas and has been trying to contact the Palatine Eye for help. Each episode, I try to imagine another scene from his off-stage journey like the art in the editorials for Serpent's Skull. It's probably too close to GenCon to put together now, but maybe when the regular crew needs a break for whatever reason, another GM or group of players could do cut scenes of what he's up to, where each time he's the sole survivor of a one-shot scenario.

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Which timezone are you marking as the start of this August 1? Eastern, Pacific, UTC, other?

Scarab Sages

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Thanks, will do!

Scarab Sages

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Bump

Scarab Sages

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I only saw an empty subforum and just wanted to add the obvious thread for a first post, but this took a surprisingly dark turn.

Scarab Sages

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Will these still be a thing that happens in PF2?

Scarab Sages

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How do I return an error item? In this order, I ordered QWSSPATIM, the Pathfinder Dice: Playtest Edition (limited edition) with the red ink on the playtest plastic color scheme, but was sent a copy of PZO2100-SE, the Pathfinder Playtest Rulebook Special Edition. I don't want the fancy book, but I do want the red ink dice to complete the collection, since I already have the green-grey ink in that color scheme. Are the dice actually still available? The web store says they are.

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