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Play an elf. Put the 2 in Con.
Or screw it and put the 2 in Int. Roleplay THAT.
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Do you get to roll a new character if this one is killed?
@Little Skylark - For me specifically no, I don't get to re-roll. Everyone else does if they die. -____-
Your not welcome, your not treated well, and they force you to play a character who's gimped. You may need to talk about this because that's a mess you shouldn't have to deal with. Its mistreating you and no one deserves it.
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You don't get to re-roll if your character dies? Does that mean you must re-use the same stats, or you are out of the game if this one dies?
Either way, your DM is telling you (in a rather passive aggressive way) that he doesn't want you in the game. I would walk away.
Wow that is harsh. You've already stated that the DM has a problem with you for some past event, so he is holding a grudge.
I'd do one of two things:
1) I'd put that 2 in Con and roll up a wizard who has basically no hit points and kill him off to re-roll a new character.
OR
2) I'd seriously consider not playing with that DM if he didn't allow a re-roll all the stats (not just the one 2) because if you put that 2 in one of your ability scores and face off against a beast who can make that 2 a 0, you are either Dead, Comatose, Unconscious, or Immobile.
Diseases, poisons, spells, and other abilities can all deal damage directly to your ability scores. This damage does not actually reduce an ability, but it does apply a penalty to the skills and statistics that are based on that ability.
For every 2 points of damage you take to a single ability, apply a –1 penalty to skills and statistics listed with the relevant ability. If the amount of ability damage you have taken equals or exceeds your ability score, you immediately fall unconscious until the damage is less than your ability score. The only exception to this is your Constitution score. If the damage to your Constitution is equal to or greater than your Constitution score, you die. Unless otherwise noted, damage to your ability scores is healed at the rate of 1 per day to each ability score that has been damaged. Ability damage can be healed through the use of spells, such as lesser restoration.
Strength: Damage to your Strength score causes you to take penalties on Strength-based skill checks, melee attack rolls, and weapon damage rolls (if they rely on Strength). The penalty also applies to your Combat Maneuver Bonus (if you are Small or larger) and your Combat Maneuver Defense. A character with a Strength score of 0 is too weak to move in any way and is unconscious. Some creatures do not possess a Strength score and have no modifier at all to Strength-based skills or checks.
Dexterity: Damage to your Dexterity score causes you to take penalties on Dexterity-based skill checks, ranged attack rolls, initiative checks, and Reflex saving throws. The penalty also applies to your Armor Class, your Combat Maneuver Bonus (if you are Tiny or smaller), and to your Combat Maneuver Defense. A character with a Dexterity score of 0 is incapable of moving and is effectively immobile (but not unconscious).
Constitution: Damage to your Constitution score causes you to take penalties on your Fortitude saving throws. In addition, multiply your total Hit Dice by this penalty and subtract that amount from your current and total hit points. Lost hit points are restored when the damage to your Constitution is healed. A character with a Constitution score of 0 is dead.
Intelligence: Damage to your Intelligence score causes you to take penalties on Intelligence-based skill checks. This penalty also applies to any spell DCs based on Intelligence. A character with an Intelligence score of 0 is comatose.
Wisdom: Damage to your Wisdom score causes you to take penalties on Wisdom-based skill checks and Will saving throws. This penalty also applies to any spell DCs based on Wisdom. A character with a Wisdom score of 0 is incapable of rational thought and is unconscious.
Charisma: Damage to your Charisma score causes you to take penalties on Charisma-based skill checks. This penalty also applies to any spell DCs based off Charisma and the DC to resist your channeled energy. A character with a Charisma score of 0 is not able to exert himself in any way and is unconscious.
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Technically the gimped part is my fault. I could've had a 10 to the stat, but instead I took it upon myself to roll and my bad luck never fails and I obtained a 2. In addition, sometimes its about principle. I understand the DM wants to give me harsh enviornments to play in, and that's fine. I want to play in this campaign, and arguing or talking this out is pointless. Especially when he actively avoids me.@Little Skylark - For me specifically no, I don't get to re-roll. Everyone else does if they die. -____-Your not welcome, your not treated well, and they force you to play a character who's gimped. You may need to talk about this because that's a mess you shouldn't have to deal with. Its mistreating you and no one deserves it.
So, NOW you have my curiosity -- why would the GM actively avoid you?
One thing I'm curious about? How, if you are rolling dice for stats, did you come up with a two? Even the most harsh method of rolling dice I've ever seen is roll 3d6 and put the score in the ability from the top down.
After that, it seems like your GM isn't just being "harsh" he's being a d!ck. If you don't want to walk, for whatever reason, and you've already talked to the GM about it, I'd be putting that 2 into CON and playing a Tengu. That, of course, drops your Con to 0 which means you are dead. Then have the rest of the party drag your dead corpse around and while you're at the table constantly say things like, " ", or " ", or you could even go with, " ." Then see how your GM/Party enjoy things.
I realize that's retaliation, but I have to say, in the situation your in, I would condone retaliation not only as a player, but also as a GM.
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The GM is actively avoiding you? I see no way in which this will turn put well.
Seriously -- Do you really want to play with a DM who is afraid to confront you outside of the group? There is a much bigger issue here than a mere game.
If I had to use those rolls, I'd probably put the 2 in Dex, the 16 in Cha, and go with a Nature mystery Oracle with the Nature's Whispers revelation (to use Cha insted of Dex for AC and Reflex saves). Maybe a nagaji.
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Best option. Don't play in the campaign.
2nd best: synthestist put the 2 in dex or str.
3rd best: put the two in con and play an undead ratfolk. (The sorceror's undead right?)
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@MendedWall - It's complicated, but a fair rolling system. Like I said, I could've just taken a 10. I decided to test my own luck, so essentially my two is my fault.
So, we have time. Complicated or no, how did you get a “2” when rolling three or four dice?
@MendedWall - It's complicated, but a fair rolling system. Like I said, I could've just taken a 10. I decided to test my own luck, so essentially my two is my fault.So, we have time. Complicated or no, how did you get a “2” when rolling three or four dice?
Yes, I've got plenty of time. Please enlighten me as to this complicated, yet fair, rolling system in which you ended up with a two.
Ouch. Sounds like a sucky situation. Or a great oppertunity for a challenge.
Quick side question, how the heck did an undead sorcerer get past the dm? Cha for hps, immune to fort saves, epic dump stat ect. That should have been shot down at character creation.
Anyways bad stats suck but you actually have options. You could be a buffer or support character or summoner as none of those rely on dcs or stats to much. A summoner could focus on buffing while living vicariously through his eidolon, a synthesist could put that 2 in a physical score and be fine, a master summoner can flood the battlefield when needed. Summoners only really need 1 stat and you got that at least.
You could play a gunslinger and put that 2 in str then pick up muleback cords to have a reasonable carrying capacity.
Play something undead! The sorcerer is already doing it so you might be able to as well.
Play a pet character and focus almost exclusivly on the pet. An assamir oracle of nature is a good idea because of the favored class bonus makes your pet high level.
Anyways there are other threads out there that had the same problems. Take a look.
Effective low stat character.
Joe shmoe and his epic horse.
Edit. Wow a lot got posted quick. I feel redundant -_-
Since you really want to play in this campaign with this DM and if you die you are out, I'd also suggest you check out the synthesist summoner and wear your eidolon, buff that sucker up and tear up his campaign.
There are plenty of guides to builds on the forums on how to best do up a summoner of this kind and then you won't be the weakest link in your group.
I definitely was not suggesting that you tell us your personal problems with the DM -- but your comment to Cross is very revealing. "He's only weird outside of D&D." Actually, he is being a bit weird within D&D/Pathfinder as well. I would give some serious thought as to whether it is a good idea for you to be involved in a game with him as DM. He seems to be the type who avoids unpleasant confrontations -- so you can expect any unresolved bad feeling he has towards you to come out in the game in various ways. If I were in your place, I would walk away from the game.
Definately do a synthesist summoner. You dont need to know a whole lot about a summoner, its REALLY hard to screw up. Just go quadraped, choose points, have lots attacks, rejoice in your painful dex not mattering in the least most of the time. Make sure you take the spells: Rejuvinate Eidolon (APG), and Restore Eidolon(UM) and their lesser/greater forms.
You don't get to re-roll if your character dies? Does that mean you must re-use the same stats, or you are out of the game if this one dies?
Either way, your DM is telling you (in a rather passive aggressive way) that he doesn't want you in the game. I would walk away.
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I would not play in a game with a DM who dislikes having me there. You know what he's going to do. You'll be his whipping boy. These crappy stats are only the beginning. He's made it clear that he's out to screw with you, so expect that yours will be the one character he picks on all game long in every way he can, shooting down your ideas, not bothering to provide treasure your character can use, coming up with roleplaying scenarios that punish you far more than the others, etc.
If I were you, I would never set myself for this kind of abuse. It's a game. Find a group where everyone gets to play, not just everyone-but-you.
Alright more ideas!
A pathfinder chronicler can make a great support character. Inspire action allows you to give your uber sorcerer friend an extra standard action, stupidly brokenly overpowered and you can even let your familiar/cohort/buddy do it as well for 2 extra standard actions a round. Casting 3 spells a turn plus quickened will make that gm want to melt the sorcerer quick =D
@Ciaran - I would but sadly I have to be some sort of wildkin. I am the type of player who ROleplays what I'm given, and if its a 2 CHA then I'll be the most unplesant person to be around lol
There is more than one way to play a low charisma. There's more than five, actually, that I can think of.
Honestly though I don't think a 2 in any ability score would be fun.
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Explain this "GM" that crippled player cannot have fun in this game while others aren't so very crippled. It's wrong to do that to person. I would be bloody honest enough and tell you that I don't want you in my game then to completely shut you down like that.
Honestly, what are you supposed to do with that? Make a character?
In normal circumstances, if everyone agreed on this kind of game, okay, your game, your rules. But crippling you, if I and everyone else in this topic understood it right, is wrong.
Ask him for 15 pts buy or something at least. A single Mummy Rot failed save can knock you down for days. Failing to make a valid character will only be a burden to your party.
Out of suggestions, the wizard suggestion seemed fine. He has enough escapes via spells to keep you safe.
@DM Blake - I do really appreciate the thought, and if it gets tot hat point he'll be called out. There are several people in this campaign who would just up and leave if he's abusing me or my charcater. In addition, your right its just a game, so I doubt the abuse will be that bad. His passive aggressiveness will never extend to him out right abusing hiw powers as a DM.
Fair enough, I'll take your word for that, but as a parting shot let me suggest that he already is abusing his powers as a DM. Maybe it won't go any further though.
Have you considered making yourself into a noble fop, someone with no real talent of their own but a high CHA and the Leadership feat? Put your 16 in CHA, find a race that gives that a bonus, put your level 4 and level 8 bump in CHA, and get a headband for another +4. That's 24 CHA. That gets you a leadership score of 19, allowing you a 10th level cohort, a 5th level captain, 4th level lieutenant, two 3rd level sergeants, four 2nd level corporals, and 40 1st level soldiers. A small army. Well, a small company, anyway. Load them up with missile weapons and keep them safely at range, they'll still hit on natural 20s even if you're fighting me (the Tarrasque). And your 10th level cohort might be better statted and more useful than any class you might make.
Now, with all that CHA, you might just want to be a sorcerer...
What I'd like to know is, How, precisely, did you get a 2? Wouldn't the lowest you could possibly get be a 3 on 3d6?
I THINK what the OP is saying is that you can roll 3d6 or take a 10 or take a re-roll by the DM where he rolls a D20???? So the Op rolled a 4 or something then instead of taking a ten, the Op choose the mystery roll by the DM, which was on a D20 ?!? which turned out to be a 2.
Play a Catfolk rogue , who “marks" everything, thus has a cruddy CHA. Be annoying.
I either would play a summoner (synthesist) with strength 2 only able to function with the help of a helpful spirit, or a reincarnated animal in a humanoid body with int 2(barbarian, rogue or ranger(skirmisher)).