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Given today is Thanksgiving, I'm quite thankful for the entertainment this thread continues to provide. So who's going to truss up the succubus like a turkey? LOL
Wouldn't she instead present herself apparently trussed up in order to engage is a little bit of forep grappling?
This way, she gets to use the bluff rules to attack against a flat-footed foe.
/cevah
Given today is Thanksgiving, I'm quite thankful for the entertainment this thread continues to provide. So who's going to truss up the succubus like a turkey? LOLWouldn't she instead present herself apparently trussed up in order to engage is a little bit of
forepgrappling?This way, she gets to use the bluff rules to attack against a flat-footed foe.
/cevah
I'm waiting to hear back from the thread's resident succubus on that one. Crimson Vixen, your input?
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I'm waiting to hear back from the thread's resident succubus on that one. Crimson Vixen, your input?Given today is Thanksgiving, I'm quite thankful for the entertainment this thread continues to provide. So who's going to truss up the succubus like a turkey? LOLWouldn't she instead present herself apparently trussed up in order to engage is a little bit of
forepgrappling?This way, she gets to use the bluff rules to attack against a flat-footed foe.
/cevah
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me. The bluff skill would be useful in most circumstances, however anyone who knows how to throw rope would get a BIG bonus or outright immunity against that bluff check. My go-to, Succubus Sorcerer 16, Animate Rope is a first level spell, it's much more interesting to truss myself up and use a Quickened Stilled Silent Animate Rope to turn the table. That gives me 96 feet of rope and 2 minutes, 18 seconds to tie you up.
You just need to ask yourself one question. You think you can handle 23 rounds tied up to a succubus?
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I'm waiting to hear back from the thread's resident succubus on that one. Crimson Vixen, your input?Given today is Thanksgiving, I'm quite thankful for the entertainment this thread continues to provide. So who's going to truss up the succubus like a turkey? LOLWouldn't she instead present herself apparently trussed up in order to engage is a little bit of
forepgrappling?This way, she gets to use the bluff rules to attack against a flat-footed foe.
/cevah
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me. The bluff skill would be useful in most circumstances, however anyone who knows how to throw rope would get a BIG bonus or outright immunity against that bluff check. My go-to, Succubus Sorcerer 16, Animate Rope is a first level spell, it's much more interesting to truss myself up and use a Quickened Stilled Silent Animate Rope to turn the table. That gives me 96 feet of rope and 2 minutes, 18 seconds to tie you up.
You just need to ask yourself one question. You think you can handle 23 rounds tied up to a succubus?
I don't know...but that's something worth finding out! I'm game if you are ;)
I don't know...but that's something worth finding out! I'm game if you are ;)
I'm game. Time and place?
I don't know...but that's something worth finding out! I'm game if you are ;)I'm game. Time and place?
Your choice. I suggest a weekend, because well, recovery time and the fact that work won't miss me till Sunday! Though why do I suspect that your CMD was higher than I thought it was? Hmm....
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Your choice. I suggest a weekend, because well, recovery time and the fact that work won't miss me till Sunday! Though why do I suspect that your CMD was higher than I thought it was? Hmm....I don't know...but that's something worth finding out! I'm game if you are ;)I'm game. Time and place?
Sunday morning, or Sunday night? We could get some paladins in here for some alignment fun. As for my CMD? Maybe? I am allowed to voluntarily fail any save/defense. Right?
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CUDDLES DA ORC TETORI ALWAYS HAPPY FOR HELPNG!
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This thread will live forever.
Sunday morning, or Sunday night? We could get some paladins in here for some alignment fun. As for my CMD? Maybe? I am allowed to voluntarily fail any save/defense. Right?Your choice. I suggest a weekend, because well, recovery time and the fact that work won't miss me till Sunday! Though why do I suspect that your CMD was higher than I thought it was? Hmm....I don't know...but that's something worth finding out! I'm game if you are ;)I'm game. Time and place?
Bring all the paladins you like. Though with this week's schedule, mid-week might open up with jury duty. For failing defenses...you have my permission to keep failing CMD, if not my hopes and blessings!
Bring all the paladins you like. Though with this week's schedule, mid-week might open up with jury duty. For failing defenses...you have my permission to keep failing CMD, if not my hopes and blessings!Sunday morning, or Sunday night? We could get some paladins in here for some alignment fun. As for my CMD? Maybe? I am allowed to voluntarily fail any save/defense. Right?Your choice. I suggest a weekend, because well, recovery time and the fact that work won't miss me till Sunday! Though why do I suspect that your CMD was higher than I thought it was? Hmm....
Corrupting the lawful-good types just seems so cliche, I mean where's the challenge? Wait? Your permission? I didn't know you still had the Shackles of Compliance laying around still, and if any kind of planar bindings are coming into play, you better have a good offering or I'm bringing 1d3 of my sisters each round to visit.
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Is this event of yours invitation-only?
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Is this event of yours invitation-only?
That depends on your Will-save.
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Corrupting the lawful-good types just seems so cliche, I mean where's the challenge? Wait? Your permission? I didn't know you still had the Shackles of Compliance laying around still, and if any kind of planar bindings are coming into play, you better have a good offering or I'm bringing 1d3 of my sisters each round to visit.
Let me assure you, the only bindings I aim to bring are physical...like those shackles of compliance, or old-school rope of entanglement, a personal fave. If you're going to bring sisters of yours, perhaps a few others should come along too? I'm not so egotistical as to think I have the stamina for a whole harem of succubi....
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Let me assure you, the only bindings I aim to bring are physical...like those shackles of compliance, or old-school rope of entanglement, a personal fave. If you're going to bring sisters of yours, perhaps a few others should come along too? I'm not so egotistical as to think I have the stamina for a whole harem of succubi....
Corrupting the lawful-good types just seems so cliche, I mean where's the challenge? Wait? Your permission? I didn't know you still had the Shackles of Compliance laying around still, and if any kind of planar bindings are coming into play, you better have a good offering or I'm bringing 1d3 of my sisters each round to visit.
Well if you're just bringing ropes and cuffs, I might not need the help. I'm not so egotistical as to think I can't handle a beautiful bladethirsty bard by myself. Thought you have to admit, what a way to go, in the middle of a combat-full of succubi?
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...a whole harem of succubi.......a combat-full of succubi...
I believe the correct term is, "A passion of succubi."
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I believe the correct term is, "A passion of succubi."...a whole harem of succubi.......a combat-full of succubi...
If it's not the correct term, it should be.
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If it's not the correct term, it should be.I believe the correct term is, "A passion of succubi."...a whole harem of succubi.......a combat-full of succubi...
There is a second, the motion is carried. The official collective noun for the Succubus is hereby known as "passion".
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There is a second, the motion is carried. The official collective noun for the Succubus is hereby known as "passion".If it's not the correct term, it should be.I believe the correct term is, "A passion of succubi."...a whole harem of succubi.......a combat-full of succubi...
I like it. "Act of Passion" now has a whole new meaning.
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Well if you're just bringing ropes and cuffs, I might not need the help. I'm not so egotistical as to think I can't handle a beautiful bladethirsty bard by myself. Thought you have to admit, what a way to go, in the middle of a combat-full of succubi?Let me assure you, the only bindings I aim to bring are physical...like those shackles of compliance, or old-school rope of entanglement, a personal fave. If you're going to bring sisters of yours, perhaps a few others should come along too? I'm not so egotistical as to think I have the stamina for a whole harem of succubi....
Corrupting the lawful-good types just seems so cliche, I mean where's the challenge? Wait? Your permission? I didn't know you still had the Shackles of Compliance laying around still, and if any kind of planar bindings are coming into play, you better have a good offering or I'm bringing 1d3 of my sisters each round to visit.
Well, dimensional shackles too, for obvious reasons. For a battle to the finish, no retreats...and yes, what a way to go, in the middle of a passion of succubi! Ah, what we do for science, the sacrifices....
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Well, dimensional shackles too, for obvious reasons. For a battle to the finish, no retreats...and yes, what a way to go, in the middle of a passion of succubi! Ah, what we do for science, the sacrifices....Well if you're just bringing ropes and cuffs, I might not need the help. I'm not so egotistical as to think I can't handle a beautiful bladethirsty bard by myself. Thought you have to admit, what a way to go, in the middle of a combat-full of succubi?Corrupting the lawful-good types just seems so cliche, I mean where's the challenge? Wait? Your permission? I didn't know you still had the Shackles of Compliance laying around still, and if any kind of planar bindings are coming into play, you better have a good offering or I'm bringing 1d3 of my sisters each round to visit.Let me assure you, the only bindings I aim to bring are physical...like those shackles of compliance, or old-school rope of entanglement, a personal fave. If you're going to bring sisters of yours, perhaps a few others should come along too? I'm not so egotistical as to think I have the stamina for a whole harem of succubi....
Well, for later you can use some Bandages of Rapid Recovery as part of the morning-after routine. At 200 gp for one use, it will be great for this party.
Combined with some Soul Stimulant, you should at least be able to watch the fun.
/cevah
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Well, for later you can use some Bandages of Rapid Recovery as part of the morning-after routine. At 200 gp for one use, it will be great for this party.
Combined with some Soul Stimulant, you should at least be able to watch the fun.
/cevah
I suspect recovery is going to take more than that. Say, a wand of restoration. Though I didn't know about the soul stimulant, good to know....
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..... Hahaha! LOL! I'm so sorry... I just love this thread so much. After reading some of the posts I can see how it got this long. Keep up the good work.
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So, checklist:
1) fully charged wand of restoration.
2) scarab of protection.
3) soul stimulant.
4) shackles of compliance.
5) dimensional shackles.
6) antimagic shackles.
Note to self: if several enchantments can be combined, do so.
7) Items to buff Fortitude saves and Constitution.
8) Toys...lots and lots of toys.
9) Updated last will and testament, just in case.
OK...if I missed anything, someone else can learn from my mistakes and carry on with the Great Experiment! I think I'm ready to go (again). LOL
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8) Toys...lots and lots of toys.
"Oh, you best bring some non magical rope, too. Those Animate Rope casting are going to wear off sooner or later! May I advise for a favorite of my, the Shibari Bloodvine Rope? Us monk succubi have a long-lasting tradition of bloodvine rope binding techniques. I'd be willing to share...
:runs in with a vast of oil:
Umm, you may want this, in case she gets a hold of you.....
That's kinda the point...
"Oh, you best bring some non magical rope, too. Those Animate Rope casting are going to wear off sooner or later! May I advise for a favorite of my, theShibariBloodvine Rope? Us monk succubi have a long-lasting tradition of bloodvine rope binding techniques. I'd be willing to share...
You should try out a Dan Bong, also. Perfect for grappling, if you are able to do it with one hand. It's also...handy for those cold Absalomian nights where you don't have a grappling partner: or when you're waiting for your partner to arrive, in this case. A little warm up never hurt no one."
Thank you for the advice. Nonmagical rope was a given, but still, a little extra can't hurt...yet. I'll definitely take plenty of the Bloodvine Rope, to go with the plethora of colors of silk rope and spider-silk rope.
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Perhaps a few tentacles can be added to help with those grapple checks...
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Perhaps a few tentacles can be added to help with those grapple checks...
No thanks. If I need them though, I know who to ask. I just wonder what the succubus herself is bringing...with much interest.
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I thought people liked tentacles... *Slithers away with a sad look on its face, if only for a moment* ...oh well, time to go and spread some chaos then!
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I thought people liked tentacles... *Slithers away with a sad look on its face, if only for a moment* ...oh well, time to go and spread some chaos then!
It's not a matter of "like" or "dislike". I'm just not interested in hogging all the fun for myself (hog-tying, different story). There were plenty of people upthread who were interested in tentacles. I might suggest as you spread some chaos, you go find them and make them that same offer. I doubt you will be disappointed.
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Perhaps a few tentacles can be added to help with those grapple checks...No thanks. If I need them though, I know who to ask. I just wonder what the succubus herself is bringing...with much interest.
Well I suggest you bring 10,000gp of diamonds, just in case. But as for my gear, I have a whip or two, as for the spells I know; beyond my usual seductive charming skills, Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Animate Rope, Grease, Adoration, (this does count as a performance combat right?)Unnatural Lust, Web, Invisibility, Hold Person, Black Tentacles, Invisibility(Greater), Telekinesis, Eagle's Splendor(Mass), Leashed Shackles, and Waves of Ecstasy.
That should be enough to get us through the weekend right?
Perhaps a few tentacles can be added to help with those grapple checks...No thanks. If I need them though, I know who to ask. I just wonder what the succubus herself is bringing...with much interest.Well I suggest you bring 10,000gp of diamonds, just in case. But as for my gear, I have a whip or two, as for the spells I know; beyond my usual seductive charming skills, Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Animate Rope, Grease, Adoration, (this does count as a performance combat right?)Unnatural Lust, Web, Invisibility, Hold Person, Black Tentacles, Invisibility(Greater), Telekinesis, Eagle's Splendor(Mass), Leashed Shackles, and Waves of Ecstasy.
That should be enough to get us through the weekend right?
I think that should cover everything, yes. Though why wait for the weekend? Might as well start now, we've got everything we need right here including each other!
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I think that should cover everything, yes. Though why wait for the weekend? Might as well start now, we've got everything we need right here including each other!
Now sounds good, just how's the play-by-post stuff work on forums? I'm used to doing this in person, I've never done it this way.
I think that should cover everything, yes. Though why wait for the weekend? Might as well start now, we've got everything we need right here including each other!Now sounds good, just how's the play-by-post stuff work on forums? I'm used to doing this in person, I've never done it this way.
Never done play by post, actually. Though I imagine it involves a separate thread and a lot of spoiler tags, based on the few times I've read through it. I could also just PM (private message) you. Just so we let this thread continue without our silliness :)
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Never done play by post, actually. Though I imagine it involves a separate thread and a lot of spoiler tags, based on the few times I've read through it. I could also just PM (private message) you. Just so we let this thread continue without our silliness :)I think that should cover everything, yes. Though why wait for the weekend? Might as well start now, we've got everything we need right here including each other!Now sounds good, just how's the play-by-post stuff work on forums? I'm used to doing this in person, I've never done it this way.
If you PM each other, how can all of the voyers scientists get our empirical data?
I do agree starting a new thread, perhaps in House Rules or General Discussion with every post spoilered. That way, each post can be a delicious suitably circumspect post not offensive to the masses.
/cevah
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But, but, but? No, we need public scrutiny in order to ensure that all data is collected in a neutral and impassioned, er... impartial manner.
Oh hush, you all can wait till the collaborations have finished and the research paper is published. Though a few well placed Suggestion spells could ensure an embargo on leaks?
As for parallel research, someone can look at what grapple methods reduce the risk of gaining negative levels?
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I believe this will be very helpful? Though its not a grappling method...
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I believe this will be very helpful? Though its not a grappling method...
Well, yes. But we're investigating what causes the negative levels here. So if no one actually gets negative levels, that defeats the point of the experiment. Hence the focus on items for recovery, not prevention. Good call though Duo.
In the meantime CrimsonVixen, why don't you go ahead and start a new thread? These gentlemen should consider the avenues of research they want to explore. Considering we've got tentacles to cover, foreign substances (jello, pudding, etc.) to deal with, we lost the druid back there somewhere...there's a lot of material to cover, friends.
While I wait (eagerly, I might add), if research is to continue, we need some research teams set up. That means we need volunteers, succubus and non-succubus alike, as well as what topic they'll be covering. I aim to work on the main topic regarding grappling a succubus and if time permits, tying one up (down), possibly the reverse, we'll see what my partner for the experiment has to say. So, that said, there's science to be done people, get to it! LOL
And while I'm also thinking about it, if anyone has suggestions or comments, let us know. If I'm going to go face one of the gravest dangers to adventurers everywhere I might as well make the most of the negative levels I'm likely to gain :)
That's all right, Qakisst. In the meantime, I await the presence of the star of the show, the succubus CrimsonVixen herself. You might well get a lot more practice in before I get started with our experiment.
That said, if the lady succubus would make herself known? Or do I have to go find a scroll of planar ally and go from there? I do hope she's not sleeping off another meal, I could be here quite a while if it was a big one....
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I'm selling tickets to the Crystal Ball viewing room. They have huge Crystal Balls, and wizards able to view the entire process from the safety of the lounge. If you want a ticket, just favorite this post.
If you two will let me, I will add some images suitable for the Enter Image spell, so I can sell some premium tickets.
I also have some Mirrors to allow the scientists to get better vantage points.
Afterwards, I hope you two will be available to Share Memory with some of the researchers. Nothing like first hand knowledge.
If you find the event was not something to remember, I also have a wizard on tap with the Sequester Thoughts.
/cevah
Those things will have to be asked of CrimsonVixen. She may decide she doesn't want any trade secrets getting out, or just not care for spectators. Or maybe she won't mind at all, that's up to her.
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Introduction
On the other hand, capture of a succubus could be potentially easier than most other demons. Physically, a succubus is not the engine of destruction most other demons are. While a succubus can claw an opponent, physical restraint could remove this danger. Succubi do not possess the sheer physical power of many of their brethren, such as glabrezu, marilith, or the mighty balor. They lack even such latent defenses as the vrock’s spores, possessing only wings to aid them. The primary concern is the ability of a succubus to drain the life energy of others, the details of which are not fully understood. After due consideration, Queen Galfrey has authorized limited testing of this knight’s theory in an effort to gain necessary information for the war effort.
The purpose of this experiment is to discover what acts will drain the life energy of a would-be captor who attempts to capture a succubus. Select knights will attempt to physically capture a succubus and record the results of their efforts specifically with an eye toward determining which methods result in the loss of vital life energy.
Materials and Methods
This experiment involves the bard Lathiira and the succubus CrimsonVixen. Lathiira is an experienced adventurer who has fought battles against a variety of foes over centuries. The bard will also bring a variety of magic items and other gear to mitigate energy lost in the experiment. Lathiira was considered for this mission for several reasons. One: Lathiira is a capable warrior, but not an especially trained combatant in unarmed combat techniques. As such, she would represent the capabilities of a more “typical” knight than, say, a veteran Crusader. Secondly, Lathiira is an ally, but not a knight with specific ties to an order or chain of command. As such, if the experiment fails, no knights will be lost. Third, Lathiira is a trained arcane spellcaster with a focused will and unlikely to fall prey to the succubus’ mental magics.
CrimsonVixen is a newcomer to the Worldwound area. Surprisingly, she does not oppose the Crusade at all, though her aims are unknown. She has graciously agreed to volunteer for the experiment, making her indispensible for this research, as seeking out succubi can take time and effort that can be ill-spared from the war movement. She too is an experienced combatant with unknown magical abilities.
Lathiira will attempt to grapple and pin CrimsonVixen to determine what level of difficulty a physical assault will entail. CrimsonVixen will then attempt to grapple and pin Lathiira. Note will be taken if Lathiira begins to lose life energy in either of these activities. Time and life energy permitting, effort will be made on the part of both participants to physically restrain each other, i.e. tie up the opponent, to determine the chance of success of forced physical capture and the possibilities for long-term containment of enemy combatants.
Materials to be used include whips, chains, a variety of ropes of differing materials, spells (Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Animate Rope, Grease, Adoration, Unnatural Lust, Web, Invisibility, Hold Person, Black Tentacles, Invisibility(Greater), Telekinesis, Eagle's Splendor(Mass), Leashed Shackles, and Waves of Ecstasy), shackles of compliance, dimensional shackles, antimagic shackles, and if time permits use of whatever items are present to simulate improvised situations. At no time will cold iron be used however. The efficacy of this material is well-known as well as just disrespectful to our succubus volunteer.