Fey Revisited in March
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C'mon Oozes Revisited.
Is dead serious. I still wanna know the hinted-at context of the ochre jelly's origin story from the Monstrous Manual, not that Pathfinder can really touch on that exactly, but still...
Plus, if it nets us some new and stranger varieties of oozes, bonus. The Ooze Creature template from Advanced Bestiary and the Squole should supply plenty of inspiration on that front as well. Or ooze colonies that form a sort of intelligence together. Or those oozes from that lake in Nex that they keep throwing magical waste and criminals into.
Heck, green slime is long overdue for its own article. Origins, ecology, handling safety, practical applications, weaponizing methods...
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I like Vermin, but the mindless / Int 0 thing really limits their characterization.
Genies & Elementals Revisited could be squeaked into a single product (or spread out over two, by using related races, like Mephits, Azer, etc. to plug the holes).
Aberrations Revisited, with a bit of Lords of Madness style flair, could be fun. Will 'O Wisps, IIRC, are very much different backstory wise in Pathfinder / Golarion. (Did they already do this one? My brain may be playing tricks on me, I could swear I already read it...)
Ditto Constructs Revisited. Also mindless, mostly, but they have creators who can add all sorts of fun motivations / modifications to them. Constructs, using the 'construction points' options from the Animated Object entry, could end up pretty wild and woolly.
Oozes are sadly overdue and unappreciated. Still, I don't think plants revisited would be a good thing, so careful with that pattern.
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Not yet. It hasn't been announced.
I think a monsters of Literature would be a good idea. It could cover creatures inspired by works of fiction like the
Jabberwok,Bandersnatch,Jubjub Bird (Lewis Carroll)
Pseudodragon (L Sprague de Camp)
Hippogriff (Ludovico Ariosto)
Wererat (Fritz Leiber)
Warg&Treant (Tolkien)
Morlock (H.G.Wells)
Serpent People (Robert E. Howard)
It'd need a better title than "Literary Monsters Revisited," but this is a really interesting idea. Some of them might be a little tricky, since a few of the authors on that list (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!) have a reputation for being a little litigious (or, at least, their estate does) when it comes to actually talking about things like this.
Derro would be a GREAT addition to this list had we not done them already.
And of course any of the Lovecraft monsters would work well, along with the Hound of Tindalos, or even the ceratiodi.
It's certainly a less well-known "literary" monster, but you could possibly add the displacer beast to the list (inspired by A.E. van Vogt's coeurl, as well as Marvel comics which had the comic version of his Black Destroyer story).
Or you could just use the coeurl itself.
(Whoops, scratch that last. I just saw the post on the coeurl and the publishing arrangement in another thread. Maybe the displacer beast, though?)
I'm pretty sure displacer beasts as depicted in D&D are considered product identity, unfortunately. Which is a shame, because they're one of my favorite monsters.
C'mon Oozes Revisited.
Is dead serious. I still wanna know the hinted-at context of the ochre jelly's origin story from the Monstrous Manual, not that Pathfinder can really touch on that exactly, but still...
Plus, if it nets us some new and stranger varieties of oozes, bonus. The Ooze Creature template from Advanced Bestiary and the Squole should supply plenty of inspiration on that front as well. Or ooze colonies that form a sort of intelligence together. Or those oozes from that lake in Nex that they keep throwing magical waste and criminals into.
Heck, green slime is long overdue for its own article. Origins, ecology, handling safety, practical applications, weaponizing methods...
I'd definitely be a fan of an oozes/slimes/jellies/molds/.... book.
They've always been underutilised, in my view but could be quite horrific, I suspect. It doesnt really fit the standard layout of the revisited line, but I'd love to see a writeup on Jubilex included.
Lovecraftian Horrors Revisited?
You know you want it.
I would like to see Oozes revisited. And of course I'd LOVE mephits revisited (or elementals revisited with some new mephity goodness). But that's mainly because I love annoying parties with Dust Mephits (of the old Planescape goth variety) or hyper active ADD water mephits.
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Tolkien I guess? Could they mention that these creatures were inspired by his works and still get in trouble?It'd need a better title than "Literary Monsters Revisited," but this is a really interesting idea. Some of them might be a little tricky, since a few of the authors on that list (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!) have a reputation for being a little litigious (or, at least, their estate does) when it comes to actually talking about things like this.
Not sure... but I've heard enough through-the-grapevine horror stories that I'd rather not try it and find out.
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I've got lists for not just one but two Monsters Revistied books... so you know if just a fan can come up with it, the Paizonians are a few steps ahead of us.
Terrors From Below Revisited
Aboleth (and Faceless Stalkers/Ugothols)
Chuul
Ettercap
Froghemoth
Gibbering Mouther
Intellect Devourer
Neh-Thalggu
Neothelid
Seugathi
Will-o'-Wisp
Cthulhian Horrors Revisited
Colour Out of Space
Dimensional Shambler
Elder Thing
Gnoph-Keh
Gug
Mi-go
Dark Young/Molt of Shub-Niggurath
Shoggoth
Star-Spawn of Cthulhu
Yithian
I was working on "Aberrations Revisited" but then I realized there were enough for just a Lovecraftian-only book as well as core-ish aberrations.
Will-o-wisps don't quite fit in there, but it's just an idea.
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Constructs Revisited
Dinosaurs Revisited, or Scalykind Revisited would be perfect.
I thought treants were ok but ents werent. Is that not right?
Missed this tread when it first appeared:
Oozes: A big yes! One of the worst (best) nights of my gaming involved avoiding a bunch of the 'nuisance' crap like puddings, molds and oozes.
Lesser Dragons: Yes, they've been down, but a PF treatment of the low end would be nice.
Lesser Undead: I have always enjoyed reskinning and otherwise altering undead of all types. Burrowing skeletons, a wraith that appears as a lost child (sweet horror!), a zombie swarm of crawling gibbets of flesh and more have graced the table.
There is a 3rdPP Goblin book I wanna get, hopefully it'll have a host of new tweaks.
Misfit monsters revisited 2
Fey Revisited 2(w/nixie and pixie)
Dinosaurs Revisited
Sea Monsters Revisited
Plants Monsters Revisited
Lovecraftian Horrors Revisited
Oozes Revisited
Heavenly Servants Revisited(Angels, Azatas, etc.)
Aliens Beings Revisited
Constructs/Golems/Robots Revisited
Elementals/Genies Revisited
Dragons Revisited 2(Imperial/Primal)
Another idea that came to me would be an "Monsters of the East" Revisited
You could easily make a revisited book around Asian monsters. I would love to read more detail on Kappas, Jorogumo, Tanuki, Ningyo, Baku, etc.
I like the idea of this "Monsters of the East" book. Maybe we will have more Asian style monsters in the Bestiary 4 to choose from.
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Humanoid Monsters Revisited, with extensive write-ups on how to make evil 'monster' style encounters with Humans, Elves, Dwarves, Gnomes and Halflings, or Chelaxians, Nidalese, Gebbites, etc. for when the 'monster' turns out to be an individual, community or a culture of what is not a traditional 'monster' race.
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I second a Darklands beasties revisited. Drow, duergar, morlocks, vegipygmies, gugs, and a couple others might fit.Darklands Revisited would be great, especially because it'd be a nice way to sneak in some more Darklands info.
I concur! It would be really interesting to learn more about the ecology in and among Nar-Voth, Sekamina, and Orv. Especially in Orv, as it would be really neat to know more about the Vault Keepers. (Although I suspect such info might be outside the realm of a potential Darklands -- Darklanders? -- Revisited book.)
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Darklands sounds interesting, as does Monsters of the "East." I like the Literary idea the best because it's nicely edjumacational.
Maybe "Literary" could be changed to... Fictive? Fantastical? Mythopoeic?
The last is the most accurate, since it means a fictional mythology. It's also alliterative:
Mythopoeic Monsters...
Though a trifle obscure.
Personally, my own interests demand I represent for the Monsters of the East including Rakshasas, Asuras, etc. Since they also appear in Chinese and Japanese myth, of course.
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Perhaps a book or two that breaks creatures out by 'role,' such as;
Masterminds Revisited, dealing with monsters that hide behind a network of other creatures and pull strings and whisper in the ears of kings, like Aboleths, Kraken, Dopplegangers, Hags, Aranea, heads of rogues guilds or ninja clans, etc.
or Brutes Revisited, offering up 10 viable and effective non-spellcasting 'end mobs,' that find ways to make a mid to high level Fighter, Monk or Rogue a credible 'Big Bad,' instead of the ubiquitious 'spellcaster at the end of the Adventure Path.'
or even a book that deals with a particular class, such as Fighters Revisited, which offers up 10 very different Fighter builds, each based around a different culture, theme, adventure / encounter role and / or fighting style. (And preferably not relying overmuch on Archetypes scattered across a dozen different books, or dips in other classes to shore up perceived weaknesses in 'straight Fighter builds.')
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Golems Reforged
Perhaps a book or two that breaks creatures out by 'role,' such as;
Masterminds Revisited, dealing with monsters that hide behind a network of other creatures and pull strings and whisper in the ears of kings, like Aboleths, Kraken, Dopplegangers, Hags, Aranea, heads of rogues guilds or ninja clans, etc.
or Brutes Revisited, offering up 10 viable and effective non-spellcasting 'end mobs,' that find ways to make a mid to high level Fighter, Monk or Rogue a credible 'Big Bad,' instead of the ubiquitious 'spellcaster at the end of the Adventure Path.'
or even a book that deals with a particular class, such as Fighters Revisited, which offers up 10 very different Fighter builds, each based around a different culture, theme, adventure / encounter role and / or fighting style. (And preferably not relying overmuch on Archetypes scattered across a dozen different books, or dips in other classes to shore up perceived weaknesses in 'straight Fighter builds.')
Those feel less like "revisited books" and more like NPC guides. I mean a big part of the revisited book series is the ecology, etc of a monster/creature. Only a small part of it is really presenting a unique variant or class-leveled version of the monster.
A monsters from literature revisited would be cool, but are there enough creatures culled from literature? Mostly it seems like Lovecraft with a few random creatures from Alice in Wonderland and H.G. Wells. While I would like to see a Horrors from the Dark Tapestry book as it's own thing, I don't want a lit book that is 70 percent lovecraft.
Especially given that some of lit creatures have already shown up in the revisited series (Ghouls, vampires, derro, gnolls), or have restricted licenses for reprinting (Zuvembie? Coeurl)
I would totally buy a Darklands themed 'Aberrations re-visited' book in a heartbeat. Neolethids, Intellect Devourers, and Aboleths layed out in detail would be nothing short of awesome. Lords of Madness is among one of the select few 3.5 books I still keep on my bookshelf.
I have a feeling that while such a book would be awesome, it wouldn't necessarily answer more of the 'World of Golarion' questions that pop up on these boards. Paizo (and James Jacobs) seems to like to hold their cards close when revealing the greater mysteries of the world (such as the Vaults)... which is fine, because a good mystery always unfolds in layers.
Bodysnatchers Revisited: doppelgangers, faceless stalkers, intellect devourers, and other such. All creepily able to take on the form of those close to you (sometimes literally) and then make you run screaming into the night.
Note that these are different than puppet masters - creatures that don't kill you but let you watch as they take away everything you hold dear :)
Not the Bee-holder?! I am so ready for a stats on Nicholas Cage.
Geth Yankee?
Like a Robotic Patriot?
Ah, yes, our old friends...
©reepy Monsters Revisted.
Beeholdor, Displaser Beest, Mined Flaier, Carryon Crawlor, Youand-Tee, Gethyankee ...
Beeholdor: ... just don't say Candyman three times.
Displaser Beest: ... all it wants is some frickin' lasers.
Mined Flaier: ... blows you into at least 15 pieces of flaier. Advanced ones blow you into at least 37 pieces.
Carryon Crawlor: ... kind of like a rot grub, for luggage (but not The Luggage).
Youand-Tee: ... a common sight at "dance halls."
I would like to see Lycanthropes Revisited.
hhm werewolf (although these were also covered in Classic Horrors revisited)
wereboar
weretiger
werebear
werebat
wereshark
werecrocodile
wererat
Jackalwere (close enough)
We still need Werehyenas and Wereleopards. Maybe werecoyotes and werejaguars as well. So yeah we are almost at enough critters for a Lycanthropes revisited.
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Reptilian & Amphibian Races Revisited.
