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Mike made the following comment in another thread that reminded me of something I brought up a while back but never got an answer for and I think it is a good time to bring it up again.
Yes, if you complete the requisite number of encounters as outlined in the 4.1 Guide, then you would receive a Chronicle minus the gold not earned from not finishing encounters, as well as items marked off the Chronicle that were not recovered in the course of play.
That brings up the following questions...
If you don't complete the requisite number of encounters as outlined in the 4.1 Guide do you not receive a chronicle sheet?
And if you don't can you play the scenario again later to receive the the 1 allowed player Chronicle?
Do you report non Competed Scenario?
Do you still get GM credit for non Competed Scenarios?
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I think it's important to get our terms clear. Are we talking about a game that gets cut short and never resumes? Are we talking about a player who walks away from the table? Are we talking about when a PC dies early and isn't revived? I am sure that members will quibble over these circumstantial differences. This is how I view all cases:
If you don't complete the requisite encounters you do get a Chronicle sheet--you just don't get XP. Your Gold and PP/Fame are adjusted according to what you had completed up to the point your PC could no longer participate.
So Point #2 is moot. You played. If you received credit (in any form), you may not repeat outside of the established guidelines. This opens up the Pandora's Box of "How much play disqualifies me?". What if I get pulled from a game after the boxed text was read? Give me a break. Be open with your GM, respect their judgment. Don't look for a campaign ruling on this.
You should report an incomplete session. Some players might finish and others may not. Reporting is important.
I would leave it to the GM's judgement if they wanted to claim a GM Reward Chronicle for an incomplete session/scenario. I think if the GM did the prep work, which is the lion's share of the effort, they should get a Reward Chroncle even if the players never finish. But again, that's a judgment call.
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As I remember from past threads, like one where it was asked what happens if the party is TPKed in the first encounter, it still gets reported and recorded and the players can no longer play that scenario for credit. Now, I am not sure if the GM would get a normal chronicle or not in that situation.
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What I meant by brought up and never got answered was that It never got answered by Paizo *Now Mark and Mike*.
From the last time I brought this up I already know what people think it is, but in my mind at least it is not clear in the guide.
I can go either way, just looking for some clarification.
I am fully willing to make my own call on how I think the guide reads without a clarification.
I am going to keep my opinion on how I think it works out of this post this time because My OP was not about How I think it should work but wondering how it does works.
Edit: Also my opinions for some odd reason get construed as argumentative when I don't mean them to be so I am taking a conscience effort to avoid that when I don't need to bring it up..;)
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I think you are going to be holding your breath for a while yet, D-Moon. The bosses have bigger fish to fry than smoothing out everyone's endless 'theoretical' "what if" questions that only lead to more nuanced questions. If you are willing to make your own call, and no one is screaming foul when you do, then your work is done. I'm not Mike, and he didn't approve this message.
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I would leave it to the GM's judgement if they wanted to claim a GM Reward Chronicle for an incomplete session/scenario. I think if the GM did the prep work, which is the lion's share of the effort, they should get a Reward Chroncle even if the players never finish. But again, that's a judgment call.
Ummmm. What about a scenario/module prepped, GM is at the time & place announced, but no/insufficient players show up to run the game.
So, scenario/module prepped, etc. Does the GM get credit, even if no players show?
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Doug Miles wrote:I would leave it to the GM's judgement if they wanted to claim a GM Reward Chronicle for an incomplete session/scenario. I think if the GM did the prep work, which is the lion's share of the effort, they should get a Reward Chroncle even if the players never finish. But again, that's a judgment call.Ummmm. What about a scenario/module prepped, GM is at the time & place announced, but no/insufficient players show up to run the game.
So, scenario/module prepped, etc. Does the GM get credit, even if no players show?
Personally, I would say if the game was never started then no one gets a chronicle, but that's me ... I'm sure others will have a different opinion
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If you don't complete the requisite encounters you do get a Chronicle sheet--you just don't get XP. Your Gold and PP/Fame are adjusted according to what you had completed up to the point your PC could no longer participate.
Just to reiterate, this is how it works. Doug, Nani, myself, and someone else had a helluva time in Rebel's Ransom and this very thing happened. Ironically we received nearly 100% of the gold, 2 PA, but no XP because we only finished two encounters, ran out of time at a Con, and just couldn't continue.
It happens.
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This makes me wonder. Can you refuse a chronicle? For instance, if you have to leave after the first scenario, first half, or whatever. I know that if you just want to experience the full module you can play for no credit, but if you're going to play again anyway why not for the whole chronicle?
No, you can not refuse a Chronicle. It lends itself to too much abuse.