
The Gold Sovereign |

Look at this beautiful cover. I'm in love with it.
And as a dragon lover myself, I can't deny the magical dragons (the ones previously know as true dragons) are the monsters I'm looking forward the most.
And there are eight brand new dragons in this one. I'm really curious about how the Cinder dragon will be different enough from the iconic Red Dragon. I really liked what we got for the Horned Dragon. It feels distinct enough from the Green, but we can still recognize some traits from their previous incarnation, specially the Pathfinder take in their more disciplined personalities.

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Look at this beautiful cover. I'm in love with it.
And as a dragon lover myself, I can't deny the magical dragons (the ones previously know as true dragons) are the monsters I'm looking forward the most.
And there are eight brand new dragons in this one. I'm really curious about how the Cinder dragon will be different enough from the iconic Red Dragon. I really liked what we got for the Horned Dragon. It feels distinct enough from the Green, but we can still recognize some traits from their previous incarnation, specially the Pathfinder take in their more disciplined personalities.
You are going to have a great fall! This and Draconic Codex??? So much to look forward to!

Ensign53 |
So I'm just getting into PF, and I'm trying to make sure I don't buy things that are redundant.
Is the monster core 2 the ORC equivalent of the Bestiary 2? And if so, should I hold off on buying Bestiary 3 and 4 in the hopes that monster cores 3 and 4 will be released?
I want stuff in the ORC "ruleset" (yes, I know they're compatible) rather than the OGL one when I can. Should I hold off on buying rulebooks unless they're ORC?
More or less: are all the OGL books soft confirmed to eventually be released as ORC books?

Ezekieru |
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So I'm just getting into PF, and I'm trying to make sure I don't buy things that are redundant.
Is the monster core 2 the ORC equivalent of the Bestiary 2? And if so, should I hold off on buying Bestiary 3 and 4 in the hopes that monster cores 3 and 4 will be released?
I want stuff in the ORC "ruleset" (yes, I know they're compatible) rather than the OGL one when I can. Should I hold off on buying rulebooks unless they're ORC?
More or less: are all the OGL books soft confirmed to eventually be released as ORC books?
Monster Core took the most iconic creatures from Bestiary 1-3 and put them in one book and Remastered them. Monster Core 2 takes the next most iconic set of creatures from those 3 books and Remaster them as well.
Not sure how many more creatures will be left amongst the 3 books that might necessitate a 3rd Monster Core book. It's possible, but we'll have to wait and see.
(Also, PF2E only had Bestiary 1-3, not a 4th one. PF1E had Bestiary 1-6, for the record).

Ensign53 |
Ensign53 wrote:So I'm just getting into PF, and I'm trying to make sure I don't buy things that are redundant.
Is the monster core 2 the ORC equivalent of the Bestiary 2? And if so, should I hold off on buying Bestiary 3 and 4 in the hopes that monster cores 3 and 4 will be released?
I want stuff in the ORC "ruleset" (yes, I know they're compatible) rather than the OGL one when I can. Should I hold off on buying rulebooks unless they're ORC?
More or less: are all the OGL books soft confirmed to eventually be released as ORC books?
Monster Core took the most iconic creatures from Bestiary 1-3 and put them in one book and Remastered them. Monster Core 2 takes the next most iconic set of creatures from those 3 books and Remaster them as well.
Not sure how many more creatures will be left amongst the 3 books that might necessitate a 3rd Monster Core book. It's possible, but we'll have to wait and see.
(Also, PF2E only had Bestiary 1-3, not a 4th one. PF1E had Bestiary 1-6, for the record).
Ah, sweet! I didn't realize about the "reorganizing" coming from all 3 books (thought there were 4!). I figured it was just an update of the first one. Good to know. Thank you!

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To add to that post, the first monster core also had mix of new monsters in it(some completely new and some which were replacements for monsters removed along with OGL) and seems like this will be the same, so its mix of remastering old monsters and new.
Yes, and we talked about this more in our Creature Feature Panel during PaizoCon Day 3! It's on Twitch right now, but it will be on YouTube soon as well!

VikingTemplar86 |
The Gold Sovereign wrote:You are going to have a great fall! This and Draconic Codex??? So much to look forward to!Look at this beautiful cover. I'm in love with it.
And as a dragon lover myself, I can't deny the magical dragons (the ones previously know as true dragons) are the monsters I'm looking forward the most.
And there are eight brand new dragons in this one. I'm really curious about how the Cinder dragon will be different enough from the iconic Red Dragon. I really liked what we got for the Horned Dragon. It feels distinct enough from the Green, but we can still recognize some traits from their previous incarnation, specially the Pathfinder take in their more disciplined personalities.
Really hoping there are actual replacements for the other colors as well. The only (evil) one we got a replacement for in Monster Core 1 was the green dragon.

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Maya Coleman wrote:Really hoping there are actual replacements for the other colors as well. The only (evil) one we got a replacement for in Monster Core 1 was the green dragon.The Gold Sovereign wrote:You are going to have a great fall! This and Draconic Codex??? So much to look forward to!Look at this beautiful cover. I'm in love with it.
And as a dragon lover myself, I can't deny the magical dragons (the ones previously know as true dragons) are the monsters I'm looking forward the most.
And there are eight brand new dragons in this one. I'm really curious about how the Cinder dragon will be different enough from the iconic Red Dragon. I really liked what we got for the Horned Dragon. It feels distinct enough from the Green, but we can still recognize some traits from their previous incarnation, specially the Pathfinder take in their more disciplined personalities.
Cinder (ex-red), Bog (ex-black), Rime (ex-white) have all been confirmed. Then there's also have been Mocking (ex-copper) that have been confirmed for new designs inspired by the metalics. The "ex-chromatics" have been pretty "faithful" and focusing on their physical aspects, while the ex-metalics have apparently been mostly based on their personalities, but turned to 11 (at least for Mocking). We don't know how many of these are in this, but if they are not in there, then they should be in teh Lost Omen Draconic Codex.

CosmicIronyMagnet |
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CosmicIronyMagnet wrote:Will Monster Core 2 also have a Pawn box?No news on this yet! Is this something you'd look forward to?
As a GM on a time and money budget, I made the decision to invest in pawns over miniatures because they give me more flexibility and range in my storytelling.
I love all of the creatures that Paizo puts out but there's nothing worse than having a carefully crafted battlefield using a beautiful flip mat, a great setup for a story, the players seeing a number of small and medium enemies ready to charge them, and then putting down a large pawn representing the big villain in the fight and saying, "I know this says "<some name>" on the pawn but what you really see is "<what I wanted the monster to be>". With the new dragons coming out, I want to be able to have a pawn of the Barrage Dragon and not have to find an older pawn of a diabolic dragon and say - "kind of like that but imagine there are cannons sticking out of the body like on this picture here."