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So glad more people are going to hear/know about the host dragon haha


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My girlfriend's been obsessed with mocking dragons since they showed up during PaizoCon (she already has an OC of one's offputting human form) so I know she's gonna love using them in games eventually. The oath dragon's also pretty neat!


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Average Gebbite win


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Delirious2022 wrote:
Will there be any monsters from Bestiary 2 and 3 in this book? I was going through the Gatewalkers Hardcover and there were monsters referencing those books but I don't have those.

A few monsters from older books are confirmed to be in this book, but also, you can generally find stat blocks from Bestiary 2 and 3 on Archives of Nethys if you don't have those books.


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My watch has ended!


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I'm not 100 percent confident on this answer, but if the wiki is accurate, which isn't always the case, then the last time they were concretely mentioned was in Distant Shores in 1e during the Ular Kel section. So, yes, I think it's just a brief lore update/drop in Battlecry unless it's been mentioned elsewhere in a Society book.


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From what I remember of one of the streams where they discussed the name change, I don't think it was an OGL thing so much as them saying they felt the name change was more accurate to how the rewrite would act and be seen. Perfectly happy to be corrected on that front though because I think it's been a few months since said stream.


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Yay!


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Benjamin Tait wrote:
Would anyone with their early copy be kind enough to share what new mythic feats are in this? As well as what new beasties are in the backmatter?

I don’t think anyone of us has it yet, the shipping estimate for subs starts the 18th. But sure once I do!


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I can’t speak to Galaxy Guide right now, but Murder in Metal City definitely says Anacites don’t have souls.

Anacite lore:
From the handout Anacite Death Customs, it says, “Anacites don’t have souls and don’t attribute importance to their mortal vessels after ‘shutdown’.” Shutdown, of course, being how we’d think about death. In the book itself, it goes on to redefine AI as when something “gain[s] full sapience, OR attract[s] a soul”, I think to compensate for the fact that anacites are a bit anomalous in not having souls despite their personal complexity.


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GharrethAdekyn wrote:
Is the digital version a PDF, EPUB, or some other format? I've never purchased any of the novels digitally, but I'd be interested depending on the file type.

As an owner of a digital copy, purchasing it gives you both a PDF and a EPUB. You can choose which one to download.


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Cheese Louise… I love Quig so much haha

Iseph continues to play well off of him like in 1e.


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BertDoesVids wrote:
Will we be getting free Player's Guide with these as well? I find those very helpful when my players start to make characters.

I don’t know for sure, but I think Drift Crashers, Drift Hackers, and Mechageddon all had Player’s Guides, so I hope so.


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1. I don’t think any dev has said yes or no in regards to the Vanguard in 2e.

2. You can look at the Technomancer and Mechanic playtest stuff at starfinderplaytest.com and there’s errata on the FAQ and I think on some of the blogs somewhere?

I have no comment on witchwarper or insight on it being core ^^


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Raia is really fun in this. I wanna say she has a programmer’s plushie, like the item from Player Core? Cool and fitting for a technomancer. Her stories always give fun ways of imagining the technomancer fantasy for me.


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Magnus the Armored Swordsman wrote:
Me, awaiting any word of the forgotten classes: Biohacker, Evolutionist, Mechanic, Nanocyte, Precog, Technomancer, and Vanguard

Technomancer and Mechanic just had a playtest finish that they direct you to: Raia (she/her) is a female damaya lashunta technomancer who’s got the smarts, spells, and style for any problem. The technomancer class blends magic and technology. Learn more at starfinderplaytest.com!

Precog is now part of witchwarper. Biohackers are referenced in Galaxy Guide, but we know nothing else about them or any other 1e class. Hope that’s helpful.


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Nethys, at least according to Eloritu’s write up in 1e, is also a ‘lost good’. It’s specifically mentioned in the context of people speculating that him and Eloritu are connected and Eloritu’s clergy vehemently denying it. Of course, things can change from edition to edition, but as of right now, him being missing alongside gods like Torag and Rovagug was part of the divine status quo laid out in back matter and Galactic Magic.


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Fumarole wrote:
mortalheraldnyx wrote:
Is there not a digital version of this book?
Looks like there will be one available on the 31st.

Thanks! When I was looking at this previously, it only mentioned the physical copy.


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These are really nice! I love the expansion (or recontextualization/retconning) of 1e lore here for both ancestries.

I don’t know if I’m just missing it, but the mentioned Puff Up feat doesn’t seem to be in the PDF for ikeshti? Just wanted to point that out.

Edit: wait never mind it’s on Thorny Ikeshti, carry on.


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If you haven’t gotten the ‘your stuff shipped!’ notice or been charged, then yes, you wouldn’t have access to the PDF just yet. If it says it’s in your downloads though, you could try using the problems link like people above did?


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Is there not a digital version of this book?


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AFigureOfBlue wrote:
I think as far as the Tian groups go, my impression is that elves, dwarves, and orcs are just not at all common in Tian Xia; it'd be like a samsaran being in the Inner Sea region.

As a quick correction to this, elves do have a nation in Tian Xia (Jinin), as noted in the Lost Omens book about the continent. They’re also as far as I recall listed as a group that lives in Tian Xia in the character guide book in the section called ‘Peoples’. They are stated as being an unusual sight outside of Jinin at the present moment though. (A quick search says that they’re noted as living in Goka, Jinin, Kaoling, and Linvarre. Linvarre is specifically because of bordering Jinin though. Songbai also mentions elf residents but doesn’t list them on the ‘peoples’ section for the nation, make of that what you will.)


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Battlecry!: Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war.

(Should be the famous quote from Mark Anthony in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.)


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My watch has ended. (Good luck to those still waiting and those who have a lot of subscriptions!)


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Perpdepog wrote:
I hope so. I mean, not that they'll have to work their butts off (They need those butts!) but that there's going to be activity around warehouses and Paizo is able to keep shipping books. I'd heard physical prints of books were kind of up in the air with all the messiness around Diamond and the distribution channels Paizo uses.

From what I understand of explanations of the situation, which I'll admit isn't 100 percent, they're not having problems with Diamond in terms of sending out books from their own warehouse. The issue is that bookstores who used Diamond as an intermediary (Amazon, Barnes and Noble, etc) are the ones who will be struggling to fulfill sales for certain companies, including Paizo. That's why the recent blog post on the matter says to either order books directly from Paizo or purchase from local game stores that also order directly from Paizo.


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I feel like I keep going “wow, this iconic encounter is fun”, but they are. I like how matter-of-fact Iseph is written here. “I killed this, I shot that, I did this for that result.” But I also like how despite that seemingly emotionless approach, they do clearly care about protecting people at risk. The note of needing their odds to be better, not necessarily for the sake of their own survival, but for the sake of Lucent Station is a nice touch, as is them taking in a vulnerable android while on the job. Just like how I like Pakelia and hope she shows up again, I want the same for Avel.


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I’m pretty sure people who have the Starfinder subscription got Galaxy Guide early, and I know at least one reviewer who got it before other subscribers on Bluesky, so I’d definitely assume the same for other books forSF2e since digital copies are pretty easy to send out. I share in your hype ^^


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VerBeeker wrote:
See I was stuck wondering if gods actually have breakfast and what they’d prefer…

I don’t know about all of them, but Cayden Cailean and Urgathoa definitely seem like the type to


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“May Sarenrae find a dead rat in her most holy breakfast” might be a line that sticks in my head forever haha I never really considered how bad photophobia might be for formerly subterranean peoples, but it works here (assuming that’s what is described in the story anyway).

Anyway, sorry to you, Ulka, I think you’ve earned that devotion whether you like it or not. Fun story!


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It's Sir Owlbear to u wrote:
Nobody asked yet so here I go: what's in the toolbox? (curious about he new critters especially)

Sure, I can share some stuff!

Toolbox:
So in the toolbox, there is a section that covers 5 new items, 2 new uncommon spells, 2 new uncommon feats, and 2 new animist apparitions, which were all themed really well to Bailax in particular and Iblydos' vibe in general. As for creatures, there's a part that mentions a few aquatic lifeforms, the Iblydan hind (which seems loosely based on the Ceryneian hind), the pyrefowl which isn't really a phoenix but is culturally associated with them, speiroikois (which are based on the myth of warriors called Spartoi arising from buried dragon teeth), and the torcheater, which is this kind of spirit that can extinguish light.

I liked the animist apparitions a lot personally, though I haven't had the chance to test out how it'd work on an animist character. The beastiary is also fun if you like reading a lot about how different creatures fit into the cultural landscape of the place they live in.

Not sure if that helps?


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Oh, hey, Vita Ayala!!!

This one is really nice. I'm generally charmed by religious and/or philosophical thoughts being woven into a character's actions, and it works well here as an easy way to showcase the clash between the cultural expectation of bringing back a trophy versus her moral desire to do so in a way that is honorable. And can it ever BE honorable? To Obozaya, yes, I assume so; the circumstances just haven't worked out yet to make it so. For other characters, even other iconics, I'm sure they'd have their own answers. I liked this one a lot!


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This was lovely! I like this particular group dynamic. I’m not a coffee drinker, but Obo’s choice sounds delicious.


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Moth Mariner wrote:
More importantly, that local language is listed as Iblydosi on page 6 but Iblydan on page 9. Which is it meant to be?

Judging from The Acropolis Pyre, I think it's meant to be Iblydosi, as that's the spelling listed throughout the book for languages (from creature stat blocks to a settlement backmatter article). Iblydan seems to remain the demonym for people and creatures from the archipelago.


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This is a nice, concise explanation! While I'm a Black American, my family's not from here (we're Caribbean, I'm first-gen). Regardless, the history of Black liberation has been at the forefront of my mind since I was a child, as well as what Black narratives might look like. I'm only here on the forums today because a friend of mine convinced me to read The Mwangi Expanse, which remains one of my favorite books produced by Paizo. I'm glad that Paizo provides a space to show off not just the hard work of marginalized creatives but promotion for organizations who desperately need support and recognition of this vital holiday.


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Forgot to check my email, but my watch is over!


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I did wonder once Grimmyr was first shown off as the guardian iconic how this would read. I guessed it’d drop before the release of Battlecry! and therefore come out before we knew more about the jotunborn or the Fray. I think this story does a nice job of dropping tidbits about them while still making me crave more. Only a few months to go! Great story.


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Can’t wait to dive into this!!!


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The plot for this one sounds fun!


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Ahhh I loved this so much!!


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Hype!


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My watch is over! Good luck to those still waiting.


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keftiu wrote:
Does that weird dread Lashunta feel in the sun ever go anywhere, or does it remain a loose plot hook still?

From what I remember, that plot line is covered in the Dawn of Flame AP? As the inciting incident. I’ve only read the backmatter in that AP though, so I can’t vouch for more than that.


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Brinebeast wrote:

One point of interest for me was the Rulers of Thuvia and the Water Lords. Since being introduced to Thuvia the rulers of the nations City-States have been fairly stable with the following leaders holding their positions for a minimum of 15-ish years, however we don’t know when each ruler came to power in their City-State.

Ilepodus, Patron of Merab
Kharane, Defender of Duwwor
Zamere, Queen of Lamasara
Guldis, Emir of Pashow
Prince Zinlo of Aspenthar
Tpannon, speaker for the Water Lords

While you haven’t gotten to the Enmity Cycle yet, should say that in it Guldis is no longer in control of Pashow. Overall really good collection of information on Thuvia though!


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My watch's begun!


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Big hype!


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Galaxy Guide was a fun read! Excited for this new era ^^


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Ooo more Iblydos! Fun year for me


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So excited to get my hands on this later!


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My watch is over ^^


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LordeAlvenaharr wrote:
Do we have any news about AP or Bestiary? I'm more interested in a Bestiary to adapt some AP from the first edition...

Alien Core (like Monster Core) is confirmed if that’s what you mean. No page yet though.

Current Campaigns


Mirror, Mirror: The Further Adventures


Released from four centuries of self-imposed imprisonment, It’Dupree sets out to correct a mistake of her past which may have terrible consequences for her very existence.

Beyond Fort Horizon (inactive)


New Notes are in the Campaign Tab

An Edit was done to the end of K'vin's story

Jeannine's Story is added