Pathfinder Lost Omens: Absalom, City of Lost Omens

Removed several posts and quotes for being off topic. Please keep all relevant discussion onto the Abasalom book

Why does the book describe CG pirate Torius Vin from pathfinder tales books as CE ruthless privateer? ^_^;

This really upset me when I read it. Those are my favorite books, and I planned to use him and the Stargazer crew in the adventure I'm currently planning. I'm still going to do it, since it doesn't matter for my game, but I'm still annoyed. I saw him listed in the NPC list, and was so excited to flip to his entry. They basically made him the exact opposite of the character in the books.

CorvusMask wrote:

Why does the book describe CG pirate Torius Vin from pathfinder tales books as CE ruthless privateer? ^_^;

This really upset me when I read it. Those are my favorite books, and I planned to use him and the Stargazer crew in the adventure I'm currently planning. I'm still going to do it, since it doesn't matter for my game, but I'm still annoyed. I saw him listed in the NPC list, and was so excited to flip to his entry. They basically made him the exact opposite of the character in the books.

Someone on the writing team confirmed that was a Mistake, not sure what they are gonna do to fix it if anything but know that the OG is the one that want to actually go with.

I don't necessarily concur that this book lacked a dark edginess and grittiness, but it does feel like a phonebook or Tourist's Guide. If a GM wants hooks dealing with problems that need to be solved, rather than just flavorful locales to set a scene in, he/she has to spend awhile digging for them.

And it's unfortunate that everything outside the city itself gets maybe 4-5 pages. Otari, a town that's been host to no less than 3 separate adventures gets a passing mention of "Buy our other books to find out about this place".

There's more to New York than New York City, and there's more to Absalom the island-nation than the city!

In fairness, the title of the book is Absalom, City of Lost Omens.

I don't necessarily concur that this book lacked a dark edginess and grittiness, but it does feel like a phonebook or Tourist's Guide. If a GM wants hooks dealing with problems that need to be solved, rather than just flavorful locales to set a scene in, he/she has to spend awhile digging for them.

And it's unfortunate that everything outside the city itself gets maybe 4-5 pages. Otari, a town that's been host to no less than 3 separate adventures gets a passing mention of "Buy our other books to find out about this place".

There's more to New York than New York City, and there's more to Absalom the island-nation than the city!

Remember that this book was supposed to arrive at the same time as AoE (the Absalom AP), Dead God's Hand (the Absalom adventure) and not long after all the Otari stuff. What you see as missing here was in all those.

"Give me more money"

No I don't think I will.

I don't think that a person new to the hobby should have to buy everything Absalom to get the whole picture, which is why I rated it 4/5. My comments here are not for you to sell me on the book, they're here as feedback for the staff as well as a warning to potential buyers.

Warning for what? Again the book says “city” right in the title.

And I say this as someone who didn’t care for the book at all.

"Give me more money"

No I don't think I will.

I don't think that a person new to the hobby should have to buy everything Absalom to get the whole picture, which is why I rated it 4/5. My comments here are not for you to sell me on the book, they're here as feedback for the staff as well as a warning to potential buyers.

My bud, that's literally what the "Review" tab is for. If you don't want to engage in discussion, don't come to the "Product Discussion" page.

The population of Absalom is a bit more than 300,000. The population of Magnimar is about 16,000, of Korvosa about 18,000, of Riddleport about 13,000. Cities of Golarion covered six cities: Cassomir (32,000), Corentyn (24,000), Ilizmagorti (20,000), Nisroch (24,000), Vigil (now destroyed by Tar-Baphon), Whitethrone (25,000). Kaer Maga (8,000) is "the smallest of Varisia's cities".

What other cities in the Inner Sea region have a population of oh, say 5000 or more?

IAC that's quite a jump from 20-30K or so to more than 300K.

Is Absalom the largest city on the planet? How big are cities in Tian Xia?

One definition of "city" is "a large town". Where's the dividing line? Population or area? So many questions. :-)

The population of Absalom is a bit more than 300,000. The population of Magnimar is about 16,000, of Korvosa about 18,000, of Riddleport about 13,000. Cities of Golarion covered six cities: Cassomir (32,000), Corentyn (24,000), Ilizmagorti (20,000), Nisroch (24,000), Vigil (now destroyed by Tar-Baphon), Whitethrone (25,000). Kaer Maga (8,000) is "the smallest of Varisia's cities".

What other cities in the Inner Sea region have a population of oh, say 5000 or more?

IAC that's quite a jump from 20-30K or so to more than 300K.

Is Absalom the largest city on the planet? How big are cities in Tian Xia?

One definition of "city" is "a large town". Where's the dividing line? Population or area? So many questions. :-)

It's almost like if there was some resource online where you could look up all metropolises of Golarion and their population. Almost!

Oppara is 109k, Westcrown is 114k, Alkenstar City is 53k, Katapesh (the city) is 212k, Haesong is 151k, there are plenty of huge cities in the "midrange".

The population of Absalom is a bit more than 300,000. The population of Magnimar is about 16,000, of Korvosa about 18,000, of Riddleport about 13,000. Cities of Golarion covered six cities: Cassomir (32,000), Corentyn (24,000), Ilizmagorti (20,000), Nisroch (24,000), Vigil (now destroyed by Tar-Baphon), Whitethrone (25,000). Kaer Maga (8,000) is "the smallest of Varisia's cities".

What other cities in the Inner Sea region have a population of oh, say 5000 or more?

IAC that's quite a jump from 20-30K or so to more than 300K.

Is Absalom the largest city on the planet? How big are cities in Tian Xia?

One definition of "city" is "a large town". Where's the dividing line? Population or area? So many questions. :-)

From the same source sited above (thanks Totally Not Gorbacz ^^):

There's Goka in Tian Xia, with a city population of 300,450.

Carry on,

--C.

Looks like Goka rivals Absalom, at least for population.

Just got this yesterday. Very impressive. Loved the writeup on House Avanstar. My next PFS character may be a member of House Avanstar.

One tin solider...

Can't make my mind up about what to order here (PDF's)...
I mainly want a good map but info about places and people are always super. However I can't envision the difference between the map-folio of absalom (which is kind of pricy, but maybe with reason) and this pdf with a map(doas it have a page then with an extra map with details??)
Just don't want to buy 2 things to only find out that they contain almost identical map content.
could someone explain the differences between the maps here please?

Can't make my mind up about what to order here (PDF's)...

I mainly want a good map but info about places and people are always super. However I can't envision the difference between the map-folio of absalom (which is kind of pricy, but maybe with reason) and this pdf with a map(doas it have a page then with an extra map with details??)
Just don't want to buy 2 things to only find out that they contain almost identical map content.
could someone explain the differences between the maps here please?

Use the Search engine on this thread with the Map keyword. It will provide a few answers.

The map in the map pack is bigger but this book also has a zoomed in map of each district at the beginning of each chapter.

The map in the map pack is bigger but this book also has a zoomed in map of each district at the beginning of each chapter.

I just go with the book then.

Any news on the Special Edition (Not the Beadle & Grimm's Gold one).

Any news on the Special Edition (Not the Beadle & Grimm's Gold one).

We release a new Lost Omens Special Edition ever month and the Pathfinder Lost Omens: Absalom, City of Lost Omens SE is in the queue. More soon.

Folks,

I am happy to report that content from this book has (finally!) been added to TOS 2nd PRO edition version 18!

TOS 2nd PRO edition is the powerful Excel Character Manager for Pathfinder 2nd edition.

Check Nonat1s's video here for a quick overview of the tool (based on the older v5 edition)

Happy Gaming!
The Only Sheet

Just for the heck of it, here's a typo. Page 387: 'Aaqir al'Hakaam' should be 'Aaqir al'Hakam'.

And another typo: Page 387: "Frumlin Fruz" should be "Fumlin Fruz"

How many pages does the pdf have?
The description says "This lore-packed 400-page guide presents a fascinating locale suitable for years of Pathfinder adventures!"
Then the pdf lists it as having 224 pages.
Please can someone let me know?

Thank you.

How many pages does the pdf have?

The description says "This lore-packed 400-page guide presents a fascinating locale suitable for years of Pathfinder adventures!"
Then the pdf lists it as having 224 pages.
Please can someone let me know?

Thank you.

400.

Actually, does work with the excellent Beadle & Grimm's box set?

Actually, does work with the excellent Beadle & Grimm's box set?

It is included in the box set

Paizo’s complete published book is included in smaller booklets that allow the GM to organize the parts of the city needed for a particular session, whether it be an individual district, the comprehensive list of NPCs, or the introduction to the city.

The product description hasn't been updated to reflect the expanded page count during the development cycle. It's almost twice as large as posted!