Pathfinder Lost Omens: The Mwangi Expanse

I want to make a gnoll ranger with a talking armadillo animal companion who hunts down catfolk. His name would be Demolisher!

Just got my pdf. Holy crap it's worth it just for the art, but I didnt expect this level of flavor for pretty much every race that comes into play.

Only skimmed so far but agree with this. The art is amazing as is the flavour for the races. From what I've seen this book is outstanding. A real masterpiece

The armadillo would play a little drum, :)

Weird question, anything about Pridon's Hearth from 1e's 'Ire of the Storm'?

Oh right, I do want to know what happened to Pridon's Hearth. Like are iruxi still there and such? :O

I want to make a gnoll ranger with a talking armadillo animal companion who hunts down catfolk. His name would be Demolisher!

Is there an armadillo animal companion option in this book? That would be amazing! More amazing would be a pangolin companion but I'll take what I can get

So, just got my PDF. Question: What playlist should I be listening to while I read?

Hugh Masekela - Don't Go Lose it Baby

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

I want to make a gnoll ranger with a talking armadillo animal companion who hunts down catfolk. His name would be Demolisher!

Is there an armadillo animal companion option in this book? That would be amazing! More amazing would be a pangolin companion but I'll take what I can get

No animal companions in this book. You'll have to wait until Grand Bazaar for your pangolin companion.

The armadillo would play victory songs on his drum when the Demolisher won!

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

I want to make a gnoll ranger with a talking armadillo animal companion who hunts down catfolk. His name would be Demolisher!

Is there an armadillo animal companion option in this book? That would be amazing! More amazing would be a pangolin companion but I'll take what I can get

No, it would be an homage to a Thundercat bad guy.

Gaulin wrote:

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

I want to make a gnoll ranger with a talking armadillo animal companion who hunts down catfolk. His name would be Demolisher!

Is there an armadillo animal companion option in this book? That would be amazing! More amazing would be a pangolin companion but I'll take what I can get

No animal companions in this book. You'll have to wait until Grand Bazaar for your pangolin companion.

That it's coming at all is amazing!!! Thank you!!

On a different note, and speaking of Haitian-inspired things, I was wondering what opinions people might have about bringing Juju back into Pathfinder, with some reworking (and probably retconning) to make it a lot more respectful of the themes and culture that created it. Vodou's a religion that's fascinated me during my readings, and having a compatible philosophical system in Golarion paying respect to this tradition is something I'd really be interested in seeing.

I noticed neither the Wendo or Juju were referenced in The Mwangi Expanse book, so I'm not sure if they're being written out of the setting or waiting for an opportunity to be reintroduced elsewhere.

What do other people think (particularly anyone who practices Vodou)?

I totally missed the more Haitian elements in this book (albeit I haven't finished it yet). Which parts of the book have any Haiti inspirations? Genuine question.

I totally missed the more Haitian elements in this book (albeit I haven't finished it yet). Which parts of the book have any Haiti inspirations? Genuine question.

I believe folks’re talking about Vidrian, the nation that used to be a Chelish colony called Sargava.

On a different note, and speaking of Haitian-inspired things, I was wondering what opinions people might have about being Juju back into Pathfinder, with some reworking (and probably retconning) to make it a lot more respectful of the themes and culture that created it. Vodou's a religion that's fascinated me during my readings, and having a compatible philosophical system in Golarion paying respect to this tradition is something I'd really be interested in seeing.

What do other people think (particularly anyone who practices Vodou)?

I for one really liked the Juju oracle mystery from Pathfinder Adventure Path #39: City of Seven Spears and would love to see that return in some form.

I worry that trying to bring it back opens the door to too many bad faith, pop culture-inspired takes on Vodoun creeping back into the setting.

Sporkedup wrote:

I totally missed the more Haitian elements in this book (albeit I haven't finished it yet). Which parts of the book have any Haiti inspirations? Genuine question.

I believe folks’re talking about Vidrian, the nation that used to be a Chelish colony called Sargava.

Thanks! Yeah, definitely haven't made it to Vidrian yet. :)

Side note, as I'm new with this edition... Osibu and the Nemesis Well (and its ancient arboreal guardian) is insanely cool. Would love to set an adventure there, see what I'd decide the secrets of the Well are!

I worry that trying to bring it back opens the door to too many bad faith, pop culture-inspired takes on Vodoun creeping back into the setting.

Eh, I kind of feel like that would be more of a reason to bring it back. While its inclusion should hinge upon people belonging to Vodoun heritage wanting to see something like their religion represented and explored in Pathfinder in the first place, if there's opportunity, I think Paizo should take it. Should people who would try to disrespect Vodoun dictate the terms by which its heritage is represented and introduced to new generations of players? Vodoun's been misrepresented throughout history. Seems to me the problem there lies with the "mis," not the "represented." Paizo's got a wide audience and a big microphone to hand off to people belonging to Vodoun heritage to tell their own story. I'd love to hear it told, is my thinking. Especially because there's already a place in Golarion for that story.

This thread is locked until we can get back into the office tomorrow when I am better able to engage with it.

Removed posts and reopening thread. The paizo.com forums is not the place to discuss how our Mwangi Expanse book doesn't have enough white people in it. We've been excited for this release for a while, the text, the art, the authors–the celebration of Black lives within our setting and within our community of creators, and gamers. Similar posts that try to take away from this moment by raising specters of "What about white people's feelings?" (or the posting privileges of people who can't drop the subject) may be removed without warning.

Going to be boring and reiterate a point I’ve made a few times: this book gives me sooo many Inquisitors I wish I could play! An Alijae follower of Nocticula, a Goloma follower of Kalekot, a follower of Pharasma tied to Xatramba somehow, a Bright Lion devoted to Luhar, a Matanji follower of Majagua…

I am ready to pounce on the PDF purchase option like a tiger the moment it's available.

I'm excited for the release. Though since I moved to Seattle I now have a day job.. so I won't be able to read it until tomorrow evening. Ugh...

I wonder if Paizo is back on the midnight release schedule or if we'll have to wait until business hours tomorrow.

Now to keep refreshing until the buy button appears for the PDF

Now to keep refreshing until the buy button appears for the PDF

So when can we expect the funeral service for your overworked refresh button?

So when can we expect the funeral service for your overworked refresh button?

When I get the PDF

PDF unavailable? ;w;

I wonder if Paizo is back on the midnight release schedule or if we'll have to wait until business hours tomorrow.

The PDF is available now. It is just after midnight on the west coast.

GM Sedoriku wrote:

So when can we expect the funeral service for your overworked refresh button?

When I get the PDF

My condolences for your loss. I hope he was a good refresh button, and brought you the PDF quickly. I would attend the service, but it seems I have a large amount of reading to do.

Incredibly excited about this product. I hope that this will aid me create less generic fantasy looking scenarios.

Woo for pdf access :3

Also nice to finally get updated situation on Saventh-Yhi and what is going there nowadays :D Pridon's Hearth didn't get mentioned(so I wonder about fate of the iruxi from Ire of the Storm), but maybe we will eventually in Vidrian related material learn fate of that town post Sargava.

But yeah holy crap this book has lot of awesome stuff ._.; I wasn't expecting crystal corruption from 1e to get mechanics as well in this book x'D

Also while I did know this book would expand on various people of mwangi expanse, I didn't realize it was to THIS extend :O Like I was expecting mwangi's orcs to get 2 pages or so, wasn't expecting 12 xD This book really does expand a ton on previous material and its really fricking lovely :3