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Yaaaaay for gestalt characters!
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And as the preview on Paizo's Facebook indicates, there will be rules for gestalt PCs in this book.
Waste of space, if you ask me...
And here I go to postpone the start of the new campaign to March :/
A Pathfinder n00b here, but isn't gamemastery content coming to playtest? I'd love to get to testing vehicles and such already :D
Are gestalt characters that popular?
A Pathfinder n00b here, but isn't gamemastery content coming to playtest? I'd love to get to testing vehicles and such already :D
The playtest that was just released is for the four new classes in the Advanced Player's Guide, due out for Gen Con 2020. It is way too late to be playtesting anything in the Gamemastery Guide.
Thanks, David!
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And as the preview on Paizo's Facebook indicates, there will be rules for gestalt PCs in this book.Waste of space, if you ask me...
Although, I'd never use it, I don't begrudge fans that like the concept getting it.
However, it should really live in a book like PF Unchained!, IMO. Player options tend to take up lots of page count and anything that takes away tools from one of the likely rare GM-focused books will disappoint. In other words, I don't want chases, hexploration, or any of the subsystems given short shrift and reduced page count so gestalt could make it in.
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Sure.
However, guidance/rules on how to handle/use gestalt characters (& how they'd affect the baseline assumptions of the game) would be very useful to those GMs who run groups much smaller than the assumed 4-player band (like 1 or 2 players). As such, I think gestalt characters have their place in the GM guide (although I'd agree that the usual plethora options for players using gestalt characters probably shouldn't be in the book...).
Carry on,
--C.
sheduled to released at mid feb or later?
Currently, the Release Schedule is showing late February
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Are gestalt characters that popular?
Yes, for the super heroic one-shot and to help balance a two or three man party while running a published adventure.
Humbly,
Yawar
Anyone else willing to bet that Jason designed the Everflame based on the Relic rules?
Are gestalt characters that popular?Yes, for the super heroic one-shot and to help balance a two or three man party while running a published adventure.
Humbly,
Yawar
That makes sense.
Gah! Is it February yet?!?
I wonder, will this book feature more elements of GM-friendly books that weren’t in the original GMG, but came later in PF1’s lifespan, like Ultimate Intrigue, Wilderness, or Occult Adventures? Those books have some really great rules and advice content, and it’d make running a campaign a lot easier off the bat if I had a lot of that stuff in one book already by the time I begin.
Strange there's Alaznist but not one of the runelords that are actively ruling New Thassilon right now
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The Pathfinder Classic Gamemastery Guide had [redacted], who faced the PCs at the end of [redacted] on the cover, so it makes sense the second edition Guide would have [redacted], who the PCs face off against at the end of [redacted] on the cover.
Too much redaction, Captain Yesterday lol :)
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On the contrary, if you don't know what I'm talking about then there is exactly enough redactions.
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lol
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Should I be seeing this in my sidecart? Because I don't see it, I have other Feb releases but not the most important one.
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The Pathfinder Classic Gamemastery Guide had [redacted], who faced the PCs at the end of [redacted] on the cover, so it makes sense the second edition Guide would have [redacted], who the PCs face off against at the end of [redacted] on the cover.
This is just previewing their hardcover compilation of the [redacted] and [redacted] Adventure Paths converted to Second Edition. Or maybe [redacted], [redacted], and [redacted]?
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I hope we get a Blog about Relics within the next few weeks.
We're in the right month! Yee, I'm most looking forward to the settlement guidance, the relics, and the advice about modifying the alignment system myself.
Still no actual date though? Sad.
Product Availability
Preorder, expected approximately 26 Feb 2020
Additionally it's listed on the CS forum for February subscription fulfillment.
Additionally it's listed on the CS forum for February subscription fulfillment.Product Availability
Preorder, expected approximately 26 Feb 2020
This page (the one we are on now) hasn't been updated, but we do have other sources (such as the February 2020 subscriptions thread) that give us that date.
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Why? Because Paizo is finally raising the prices of their books to a reasonable level. Writing is criminally underpriced in the industry due to everybody trying to offer the books at the price point nerds want and expect, which is: the same as 10 years ago. I'm not even talking about inflation and costs rising for one reason or another.
Since you can't really save on art (if you would offer lesser rates, artists would just ignore you and work for industries that pay reasonable money, that being CCGs, board games and of course video games), insofar the idea was to skimp on writers (since they can't really go anywhere if they want to do what they love to do).
That's slowly changing, but that means that prices will rise and you'll finally be paying more for your funny books about pretending to be an elf than you did in 2009, good riddance, while the people working at/for Paizo will hopefully be able to pay the rent in Seattle and not die trying.
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...at the price point entitled bubbly nerds want and expect...
That's an...interesting (and not at all provocative) way to describe a demand curve.
That being said, I personally don't mind paying more if doing so means people make a living wage. Paizo sells gaming stuff, after all, not insulin.
Based on what I've bought of Paizo so far, all 2nd Edition products to date, I'm wondering if it's worth it, because the value doesn't seem to fit the price. Player options, specifically, seem poorly balanced. Flavorful, in some cases, but utterly useless in practice. Does it make me "entitled" to expect to actually get something worth what I am paying?
No, of course not.
My experience, on the other hand, has been mostly different (of course, I avoid "player options" like the plague). In my opinion:
* The core PDFs remain a strong value at $15
* The GM screen is solid (and landscape!)
* The new Bestiary Box is an unparalleled value
* The Fall of Plaguestone was serviceable (if unremarkable)
* The maps line continues to be great (despite some inscrutable flip-tile releases which don't play to the strength of the product design at all)
* The 2E condition cards show some real innovation in the form of tracking duration/severity
* I may even have come around to the Combat Pad (which I've tried it before, but this time it may stick)
...which come to think of it, means I'm in well past $150 for a game system I don't even particularly like. *sigh*
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Any idea why Paizo is offering less material? This is about 4/5ths the size of the 1st Edition Gamemastery Guide, and we're not getting a price break. I'm noticing a trend in Paizo where they are offering less product for more price.
Well, going by something like this inflation calculator, prices have risen by 17% since the time the 1st Edition Gamemastery Guide was published. So Paizo had two options for the 2nd Edition Gamemastery Guide:
1. Keep the new book the same size, and raise the cost by about 20%.
2. Keep the price the same, and lower the page count by about 20%.
And apparently they choose to do the latter.
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Based on what I've bought of Paizo so far, all 2nd Edition products to date, I'm wondering if it's worth it, because the value doesn't seem to fit the price. Player options, specifically, seem poorly balanced. Flavorful, in some cases, but utterly useless in practice. Does it make me "entitled" to expect to actually get something worth what I am paying?No, of course not.
My experience, on the other hand, has been mostly different (of course, I avoid "player options" like the plague). In my opinion:
* The core PDFs remain a strong value at $15
* The GM screen is solid (and landscape!)
* The new Bestiary Box is an unparalleled value
* The Fall of Plaguestone was serviceable (if unremarkable)
* The maps line continues to be great (despite some inscrutable flip-tile releases which don't play to the strength of the product design at all)
* The 2E condition cards show some real innovation in the form of tracking duration/severity
* I may even have come around to the Combat Pad (which I've tried it before, but this time it may stick)...which come to think of it, means I'm in well past $150 for a game system I don't even particularly like. *sigh*
Why spend any money on a system you don't like? Out of support for Paizo? Then why complain about it? I'm confused, because I wouldn't spend money on any 2E products unless I genuinely liked them. I just couldn't afford it anymore, because my expenses have radically gone up since 1E came out, and yet my salary is still pretty much the same it was 9-10 years ago.
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They are actually lowering page count by roughly 20 percent and raising price by the same. Original Gamemastery Guide had an MSRP of 39.99, vs the new 49.99, with a page count in the 320s vs 256 for the new edition. We are charged more for less. And we already know roughly 30 of those pages are NPC statblocks,
Now how about you hold off on the personal attacks on someone who just likes to actually get value for his dollar.
It's 2020, not 2010. The value of your dollar and the economy did change and so did the industry.
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There's an easy solution, if you think the price is not right: Vote with your wallet. Don't buy things you think are too expensive.
I value Paizo's work. I value the work of Paizo's writers and artists.