John Compton Pathfinder Society Lead Developer |
John Compton Pathfinder Society Lead Developer |
TwilightKnight |
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The idea of an intermission is nice, but in implementation, at Gen Con, not so much. Letting 1300+ people all break from their table at the same time created HUGE problems at the rest rooms and prize station. It would be better to just see a sandboxy presentation of a long middle act where tables could break at their own pace whenever it was convenient for them.
Dustin Knight Developer |
I don't want to criticize the product itself and give it a low-rating because of what could have been a bad GM...
The first half of it was great. The second half blew chunks. And I was playing an almost entirely combat-focused character, so given the first half is skill-based, something is off.
Mikko Kallio Contributor |
TwilightKnight, thanks for the feedback! The intermission is probably something that works better at a smaller convention.
KitsuneWarlock, in the encounter you weren't able to participate in:
There are 6 roles: boots, fist, gun, head, heart, and voice. The GM must have misunderstood something.
I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy the latter part of the special. There were probably too many encounters in that part, so the problems with pacing are probably on me. But I wasn't at the con, so I don't know for sure why it ended up being so rushed.
Again, apologies, and thank you for the feedback.
John Compton Organized Play Lead Developer |
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Upon reviewing Assault on Absalom with other members of the team, comparing notes from the event at Gen Con, and looking through varied feedback from the community, we’ve made several changes to this special adventure.
The number of faction successes the House must accrue to trigger a faction condition in Part 2 has been reduced from 3/5 times the number of tables to 2/5 times the number of tables. In play, we found the rate at which groups completed encounters was making it difficult to hit the target number of faction conditions (in the 3–5 range).
The duration of Part 2 has been reduced from 110 minutes to 100 minutes. An extraneous reference to Part 2 taking 120 minutes has been corrected. This buys a little more time for Part 3, which felt rushed during the event. This shorter window is offset by the adjusted number of successes required above.
The duration of Part 3 has been increased from 135–145 minutes to 145–160 minutes. Likewise, the Overseer GM’s “Pacing Part 3” note on page 30 has been adjusted slightly to reflect these numbers. This buys a little more time to hit those fun encounters.
The Table GM instructions for the Broken Horns condition prompts the GM to conclude ongoing Flotsam Graveyards more quickly. There is no change to that condition’s mechanics. Players should really be moving to the Flight of Atalazorn encounter soon after the condition hits, giving them more time to enjoy the set-piece construct encounter.
The Chronicle sheet now cites that a player may select either a faction reward that their table completed or that the House completed. This remains true whether the House earned one or two rewards.
The PDF has being updated and awaits imminent re-release on the website.
Event Organizers: In the meantime, event organizers should use the spoiler-ed notes above to adjust their respective conventions’ experiences. Tonya Woldridge is alerting coordinators for the conventions of this coming weekend about these changes.
Players: If you have already received a Chronicle sheet for playing Assault on Absalom and would have selected a different reward based on the new reward mechanism, you can contact your local venture-captain to get an updated sheet. Do note that the only change to the Chronicle sheet is that the text for which benefit you can select; if you do not need your selected reward changed, you do not need to take any action at all.
John Compton Organized Play Lead Developer |
Tonya Woldridge Organized Play Manager |
John,
Thanks for the update on this issue. I do have a question though. If you are not planning to offer this special in your area due to the increased possibility of getting 8-99 to go, will VCs still be receiving the scenario?
No, VCs aren't getting 9-00 as an auto drop this year, as it is restricted release.
Mikko Kallio Contributor |
Upon reviewing Assault on Absalom with other members of the team, comparing notes from the event at Gen Con, and looking through varied feedback from the community, we’ve made several changes to this special adventure.
Awesome! Thanks so much, John! (And thanks to everyone who gave feedback!)
I hope the changes will iron out the timing and boon-related wrinkles! :)
Eric Clingenpeel |
Preston Hudson wrote:No, VCs aren't getting 9-00 as an auto drop this year, as it is restricted release.John,
Thanks for the update on this issue. I do have a question though. If you are not planning to offer this special in your area due to the increased possibility of getting 8-99 to go, will VCs still be receiving the scenario?
Then how are venture officers supposed to replace chronicles if requested per John's spoilers?
Dave Setty |
The Chronicle sheet now cites that a player may select either a faction reward that their table completed or that the House completed. This remains true whether the House earned one or two rewards.
While noted on the chronicle sheet, this change is not reflected in the text of the scenario (page 45, under the header "Final Closing").
Farrindor |
Tonya Woldridge wrote:Then how are venture officers supposed to replace chronicles if requested per John's spoilers?Preston Hudson wrote:No, VCs aren't getting 9-00 as an auto drop this year, as it is restricted release.John,
Thanks for the update on this issue. I do have a question though. If you are not planning to offer this special in your area due to the increased possibility of getting 8-99 to go, will VCs still be receiving the scenario?
I was discussing this topic while filling in my partner on the forum's goings-on. The net result that I worked out was, it is only those who went to Gencon that are impacted, and of those who played only a percentage would be changing their sheets (those who didn't already unlock the things they wanted), and of those needing a change, a percentage would have VO's who were also there... so the total number of folks who traveled without their VO's present and need a change should be fairly small, small enough that the local VC can request a properly doctored chronicle from Tonya (or her support team) without any significant flood on Tonya's side, honestly. It may take that particular group a bit longer to get a re-tuned chronicle, but it shouldn't be that many cases I don't think.
Dustin Knight Developer |
TwilightKnight, thanks for the feedback! The intermission is probably something that works better at a smaller convention.
KitsuneWarlock, in the encounter you weren't able to participate in:
** spoiler omitted **I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy the latter part of the special. There were probably too many encounters in that part, so the problems with pacing are probably on me. But I wasn't at the con, so I don't know for sure why it ended up being so rushed.
Again, apologies, and thank you for the feedback.
Yeah the GM was at fault. The table also had three players who have never played Pathfinder before and were playing mid-level Pregens with fairly complicated classes. I don't blame the writer and I can even understand why my friend at Gencon called this her "favorite multi-table to date". Hopefully I'll get a different experience with a more experienced GM and more prepared players at a later convention!
avagdu |
John, can you tell us what the table requirements are to run this thing yet?
I agree; it would be nice if the product description gave the minimum number of tables that are allowed for the multi-table interactive specials.
Jim Harris |
This scenario is listed "available for sale August 2, 2018." It is now September 12 (I concede to the website issues some delays) and I have a local group organizing this special on September 29 (planned based on/well before the August 2 release date). Any chance this will be made available for purchase soon?
Sara Marie Customer Service & Community Manager |
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We've adjusted a missed setting on the product and its now available for sale. We apologize for the delay! If something like this happens in the future, let us know at customer.service at paizo.com or post in the CS forum and we can take a look to resolve it. We don't always see new posts in product threads.