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Qlippoths are a strange breed of evil outsider that, up to now, hasn't been developed that much. I would really like to see more of them.
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I also have been happy, for the most part, with all the Pathfinder bestiaries thus far.
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Pathfinder bestiaries are always fantastically illustrated, feature sound and consistent CR, great spread of types, themes and inspirations, frequently showcase outstanding design (whoever designed the Wyrmwraith in B5 - much love!) AND have dinosaurs in every book. What's not to love?
What's not to love?
Well the over use of some creature types/subtypes.
The underuse of other creature types/subtypes.
Some creatures I still have (design)issues with the Yuki-onna, Formorian, Argus, etc.
But all in all still solid books.
I had issues with Firbolg myself, but otherwise yes they are solid books. :)
Thomas, what was your problem with the Firbolg?
I thought a) it could be bigger and meaner and b) I thought it should have been stronger than Hill Giant, but less than full Giant. Does that make sense?
The pathfinder firbolg is kinda dull compared to the d&d fourth edition firbolgs, same with quicklings and howlers. Otherwise I mostly like pathfinder beasties more than the dd ones.
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Metal masters?! What the heck is that?!
I think that was a late night video show on MTV back in the 80s.
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I had issues with Firbolg myself, but otherwise yes they are solid books. :)
As a Gaelic Polytheist.....I tend to have some issue with all the fey creatures, as well as the Druid and Bard class....but when all is said and done....this is not about "authentic representation" of different ethnic mythos....it's a role playing game. So you have to give some "wiggle room" to pop culture representations :P
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Tammy's a pop culture phenomenon.
I'm not saying "BOO! Paizo is horrid!" or "This isn't the one I wanted! Don't make me hold my breath until I get my way!" kind of thing. It's more like "I accept Paizo went this way but I think I'd do it different in my own home game." Which is as it should be.
Drew,
Thanks for that explanation.
Night,
I don't think it's dull so much as I was expecting something else.
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Personally I think the Firbolg could have been a higher CR(like 7-10) and maybe even a fey that just looks like a giant. But what's done is done.
I hope there will finally be some CR20+ giants in this one.
Not sure I need them THAT high, Dragon, but I'd like a few CR 10-15 versions.
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Just so long as they don't come out with some sort of ridiculous headless Cyclops with a comically placed single eyeball and gaping mouth in the chest.
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I actually like that creature also there will be no new cyclopes in B6.
I don't think we don't need them but yes, less Cyclopes will be fine.
I wonder what makes the "strangely sentient oozes" strange, since there are a few sentient oozes already there must be something very very odd about them.
Probably just that shapeshifting ooze woman from one of the APs, the mezlan or something like that.
Just so long as they don't come out with some sort of ridiculous headless Cyclops with a comically placed single eyeball and gaping mouth in the chest.
The thing I disliked about the hindu kabandha was its neutralness, I would have liked them evil. And while the art isnt bad at all, it still looks kinda akward
Metalmasters are d&d creatures that resemble giant purple/gray slugs covered in metal shards, they use magnetism as weapen, I love magnetic powers, so I even forgive them for giving this creature such a stupid name. The Gravorg (a gravity controlling sloth/cat beast) was another silly dd monster I liked only for its powers/abilities. Both powers arent really used yet in pathfinder... I dont count golems and oozes that have more types of powers, just creatures that only focus on those powers.
I like cyclopes and would love more types especially a medium size 0HD version, a titan version, and more.
Dragon,
I could go for a Titan cyclops, sure.
Well I would like more titans in general but since we are not getting any new ones in B6, it will be a longer wait.
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I wonder what makes the "strangely sentient oozes" strange, since there are a few sentient oozes already there must be something very very odd about them.
Don't read too much into that. I wrote "strangely sentient" because of the consonance; it sounds neater than "new category of intelligent ooze."
AKA: It's strange for an ooze to be smart, in a general view, since the assumption for creatures of the ooze type is that they are mindless. The fact that we've done smart oozes since the start doesn't make smart oozes any less strange than the norm.
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It was the "Ask James Jacobs", he said there were giant roaches in there but had to be cut.So you're saying there was a roach clip?
Bravo, sir. Bravo.
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Metal masters?! What the heck is that?!
Dragon,
I liked 3. 4 was forgettable in some ways. 5 just outright made me mad.So far NONE of the Bestiaries have sucked. They might have a few less useful creatures, but overall, I'd rate them higher than 3.0/3.5 MMs.
I agree, they didn't have a decent Monster Manual after 3.
So who wants to guess what creature type/subtype Krampus will be?
Let's keep focused on Bestiary 6, folks, rather than pick on other monster books from other companies.
Okay! I want pillar dragons and fire rain.
So who wants to guess what creature type/subtype Krampus will be?My first guess is fey, my second guess is outsider (native), and my third guess would be a (probably unique) monstrous humanoid.
I could see the cold subtype for any of those as well.
So who wants to guess what creature type/subtype Krampus will be?My first guess is fey, my second guess is outsider (native), and my third guess would be a (probably unique) monstrous humanoid.
I'm feeling outsider myself. Fey would be my second guess.
I am hoping for fey but more then likely he will be an outsider.
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I hope there will finally be some CR20+ giants in this one.
Colossal fire, frost and stone giants that live on the elemental planes of fire, water and earth, and are veritable walking mountains (or icebergs, etc.), causing earthquakes as they walk (or being surrounded by a supernaturally deadly blizzard, etc.) could be a scary higher level encounter.
Mountain Giant, Iceberg Giant, Vulcanic Giant, etc.
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Giant-kabobs, Giant creole, Giant gumbo. Pan fried Giant, deep fried Giant, stir-fried Giant. There's pineapple Giant, lemon Giant, coconut Giant, pepper Giant, Giant soup, Giant stew, Giant salad, Giant and potatoes, Giant burger, Giant sandwich.
Like the normal elemental giants aren't enough already lol. Too much elemental/environment giants isn't good for your health.
Giant-kabobs, Giant creole, Giant gumbo. Pan fried Giant, deep fried Giant, stir-fried Giant. There's pineapple Giant, lemon Giant, coconut Giant, pepper Giant, Giant soup, Giant stew, Giant salad, Giant and potatoes, Giant burger, Giant sandwich.
What's with the grocery list?
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Like many monsters, giants in general are not good for your health;)
So what do you think the new group of outer planes based dragons will be called?
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Giant-kabobs, Giant creole, Giant gumbo. Pan fried Giant, deep fried Giant, stir-fried Giant. There's pineapple Giant, lemon Giant, coconut Giant, pepper Giant, Giant soup, Giant stew, Giant salad, Giant and potatoes, Giant burger, Giant sandwich.What's with the grocery list?
Momma always said "A product thread is like a box of choc'lates. Ya never know what you gonna get."
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I hope there will finally be some CR20+ giants in this one.Colossal fire, frost and stone giants that live on the elemental planes of fire, water and earth, and are veritable walking mountains (or icebergs, etc.), causing earthquakes as they walk (or being surrounded by a supernaturally deadly blizzard, etc.) could be a scary higher level encounter.
Or you could add the Jotunblood template from I believe it was Advanced Bestiary. A book I hope to employ when B6 comes out.
I can't wait to see what the wild hunt is like.
More demon lords? With 16 pages of devil lords already?!? :-S
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Yeah, as much as I like to see powerful archfiends, I'd like room for things that would see more play (lower and mid levels).
I approve of this message. CR 20+ gets very little usage, in my experience.
Demon Lords have not mentioned but we are getting 8 archdevils, the 4 horsemen, and some empyreal lords.
Yeah, as much as I like to see powerful archfiends, I'd like room for things that would see more play (lower and mid levels).I approve of this message. CR 20+ gets very little usage, in my experience.
Not in mine. I'd rather have more big bads for a change.