Skeld
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Skeld wrote:... can I have his spot?captain yesterday wrote:Yoo hoo Skeld, I already got my shipping notice. ;-)I'll see that you're moved to the back of the line going forward.
-Skeld
At the back of the line? Sure! We'll plop you back there right behind him.
-Skeld
Marco Massoudi
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I have it as well. And I can't overstate how much I love it. ^_^
I'm extremely familiar with the original as well, so if you want to know if a thing changed, I've already identified almost all of the updates.
As i own the original AP issues too, i am very interested in the changes.
What differs the most in your opinion, Kalindlara?
Kalindlara
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Well...
Settle in.
Gaedren Lamm is now directly connected to Rolth - depending on his body's fate, the PCs might face him again...
They no longer call the queen a wh*** in Book 1. Personally, I appreciate that. Also, they provide a minor link to her origins in Westcrown in the background info.
The book has multiple "city statblocks", representing Korvosa in various states of anarchy and despair.
Thousand Bones is now a shaman! He, plus a few others, now occupy a large NPC Codex in the back.
The book recommends the lycanthrope corruption as an option in case of wererat-infected PCs - it's always nice to see them support stuff like that.
Jolistina no longer throws those aggravating plague-bombs. Glad to see those gone - they caused one of the many arguments during our playthrough of the original.
The immune Varisians are no longer descendants of Vorel's wife - that was a little hard to believe, given how recently she lived and how many were affected. Also, blood veil's nature has been expanded upon. It's very interesting.
I look forward to quoting the clarification text of Krojun's Thunder and Fang feat in messageboard arguments.
As noted elsewhere, a new section has been added to A History of Ashes, letting the PCs return to Korvosa to strike against the Red Mantis and Gray Maidens. Marcus Endrin, would-be regicide, can now be rescued from Gray Maiden captivity. In addition, some of the charaters from the Gray Maiden article in Shattered Star make appearances in the updated Path. (The Gray Maidens have a very... interesting torturer.)
Scarwall has been thoroughly fleshed out - as noted elsewhere, every room now has something to see. (To my surprise, Scarwall's devils weren't replaced with kytons.) The spirit trapping effect now has info on how it affects spirit-based characters, like shamans and spiritualists. Also, there are a lot more NPCs there.
Neither the guided weapon property nor the celestial plate armor return. They, not unlike the denizens of Scarwall, remain trapped in 3.5 for all time.
There's a "new" Harrow deck of many things - it's mostly identical to the Artifacts and Legends one, but some of the effects are updated, tweaked, or Korvosa-specific.
One big thing I noticed:
Jolistina, the elf "jester"
Cinnabar, the Red Mantis assassin leader(!)
Laori, obviously - her path to redemption has been expanded.
The art is gorgeous. Roughly four out of five pieces have been updated.
Yargin's art is a good example of how the new art maintains the old personality.
I'll miss Sabina's art in Book 1.
Devargo Barvasi looks far more wild and intimidating now.
Jolistina Susperio has new art now, and I couldn't be happier. Weirdly, her eyes aren't all-black - they're human-looking. Given that the iconic alchemist has the same condition in many pieces of art, I wonder if chemical exposure shrinks their pupils to human-size...
The art of the Gray Maidens defending the hospice is excellent.
Dr. Davaulus gets full art! He's so gentlemanly!
Rolth has new, incredibly punchable art. The cultists of Urgathoa get new art, too - they're surprisingly snappy dressers.
The new art of Marcus Endrin's failed assassination is solid.
Meliya Arkona finally gets art! (The Arkonas are now ethnically Vudrani.) Glorio's new art is fabulous as well - if it gets added to the avatars, I foresee it in captain yesterday's future...
All of the Shoanti art is amazing. ALL of it. (And there's a lot.)
The Brotherhood of Bones are all less sexy than before. It happens.
Art of Kazavon's human form! He looks fabulously villainous, in a Captain Hook sort of way. Again, future captain yesterday avatar.
Sabina Merrin's new art looks an awful lot like Anne Hathaway. Is it just me?
Fabulous new art of Ileosa returned from death in the Continuing the Campaign section.
...hopefully that answers your question. ^_^
Kalindlara
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Kalindlara, thank you so much for that cool list.
Would it be at all possible for you to post a list of the contributing artists?
Well, I can't imagine they'll have a huge problem with that. ^_^
That list includes some of the artists from the original run, obviously; for example, Kyle Hunter (of Downer fame) is the artist for the Harrow deck.
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Heine Stick wrote:Kalindlara, thank you so much for that cool list.
Would it be at all possible for you to post a list of the contributing artists?
Well, I can't imagine they'll have a huge problem with that. ^_^
** spoiler omitted **
It saddens me that Ekaterina Burmak isn't mentioned, but other than that there's a lot of great classic Pathfinder talent on that list.
Kalindlara
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In addition, for those of you with an incurable minis addiction, Mr. Massoudi brought this to my attention in another thread. I'm certainly excited. ^_^
James Krolak
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Did they update Chained Spirit and Danse Macabre? What about our favorite Umbral Dragon?
Yes, the Chained Spirit is cleaned up and a lot more effective now. In the original, my group slaughtered him easily even when he had all 4 chains. He'd be a lot more challenging now. Then again, they're supposed to be higher level in this edition, so maybe it would still be a cake walk.
The Danse Macabre has been updated. It's tougher in some ways, but weaker in others. Higher AC, better to hit, better saves, more HP, but lower SR and some of its special abilities aren't as nasty or have limitations.
Sadly, the Umbral Dragon has only an entry of # of hit points and a reference to the Bestiary 2, page 102. He's still the same age category, too. My players cut through him faster than the Chained Spirit, unfortunately...
But, man, there are SOOOO many more set encounters in Scarwall now. When I ran it, I threw so many wandering encounters with spectres and dread wraiths at my players 'cuz they were very prepared.
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James or Liz,
Will there be the chance to buy the Pleather edition that is signed by the staff? I am looking to get that and would love to have the crew who did the update along with the originals sign the copy
Nope. We do not typically sell signed copies of our products via the webstore.
CorvusMask
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Aww man, so they did update the old traits and add new one, so using 3.5 player's guide wouldn't be apporiate?
Eh, I guess copying them to notes for players isn't that big of problem, I just prefer being able to link player's guides instead of writing traits myself :D I like fancy presentations. Still nice if they did update them somewhat.
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Aww man, so they did update the old traits and add new one, so using 3.5 player's guide wouldn't be apporiate?
Eh, I guess copying them to notes for players isn't that big of problem, I just prefer being able to link player's guides instead of writing traits myself :D I like fancy presentations. Still nice if they did update them somewhat.
CorvusMask
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CorvusMask wrote:Just send your players here!Aww man, so they did update the old traits and add new one, so using 3.5 player's guide wouldn't be apporiate?
Eh, I guess copying them to notes for players isn't that big of problem, I just prefer being able to link player's guides instead of writing traits myself :D I like fancy presentations. Still nice if they did update them somewhat.
:O Noice!
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First, credit where credit is due. Excellent freaking job on this guys! Artwork and overall repacking was a delight. Thanks people.
Now, not to derail this thread, but, originally for "Continuing the Campaign" we had mention of "Sorshen Rises". My hardback has changed this to "Sorshen's Legacy". I have no idea of how to do the spoiler thing but it's a minor one at best, still you may want to stop reading now.
MINOR SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone heard anything about this? Seems kind of odd they'd put that in print for all time if they weren't going to follow up on it. Hopefully, soon. Or do we already have a thread on this topic and I simply missed it with my weak Forum-Fu?
And now I DO know how to do the spoiler thAng. Until I forget. Thanks guys.
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I believe that Sorshen and Xanderghul's plots are on Mr. Jacobs' "this will definitely happen someday" list. ^_^
They actually suggest you may want to postpone running a follow up campaign because of an "upcoming Pathfinder product". Sounded like this was a bit more than a "planned for someday maybe" thing, but rather something that was in the works. More of a six months to a year thing.
Just my opinion there of course, with perhaps too much hope sprinkled in. That said, having a book like this come out before a new AP featuring someone like Ileosa and her new Mistress would be good marketing....
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Dagnabbit! Monday is a holiday. Which means my hardcover probably won't arrive 'til Tuesday. Oh.. the humanity!
Thanks, James & crew for touching this AP up for us. Now just go ahead and start on Second Darkness. It's okay for you to finish that one before starting Legacy of Fire.
Then the fabulous 4 pre-PFRPG APs will be complete!