Pathfinder Adventure Path: Curse of the Crimson Throne (PFRPG)

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Pathfinder Adventure Path: Curse of the Crimson Throne (PFRPG)
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A Campaign Fit For a Queen

The kings and queens of Korvosa have long ruled under the shadow of the Curse of the Crimson Throne—an infamous superstition claiming that no monarch of the city of Korvosa shall ever die of old age or produce an heir. Whether or not there is any truth to the legend of the curse, Korvosa's current king is but the latest victim to succumb to this foul legacy. Now, the metropolis teeters on the edge of anarchy, and it falls to a band of new heroes to save Korvosa from the greatest threat it has ever known! This hardcover compilation updates the fan-favorite campaign for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, including new and revised content and nearly 500 pages packed with mayhem, excitement, and adventure!

This hardcover edition of Curse of the Crimson Throne contains:

  • All six chapters of the original Adventure Path, expanded and updated for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.
  • An in-depth gazetteer of the city of Korvosa as it exists under the rule of its new queen.
  • An array of new rules options for characters, ranging from campaign traits to spells to magic items.
  • An expansive appendix with statistics, descriptions, backgrounds, and rules support for the 12 most important NPCs in the campaign.
  • A bestiary featuring nine monsters from the original Adventure Path making their debut under the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game rules.
  • Dozens of new illustrations, never-before-seen characters, location maps, extensive new encounter locations, and more!

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-890-8

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Frick it my review got deleted

5/5

I wrote fricking long review about great time I had with running the whole campaign(and post campaign) and then it got deleted by the fricking "too much backtracking" page dagnabbit

I'm not gonna write the entire thing again, so here is in short: This campaign has great recurring NPC cast(most of later APs have problem with introducing cool NPCs and then rest of books never mentioning them again), great themes, great villains, Kazavon's awesome hair, allows multiple approaches to different situations(such as infiltrating with sneaking or talking through places instead of just fighting through them. Kinda reminds me of Deux Ex computer games in a way), awesome locations, awesome post campaign potential and is one of my favourite APs ever.


Good value, but some reservations

4/5

Short Version: A smart buy but held back by structural issues.

It's hard to get better adventure value for your dollar than this or the Rise of the Runelords collected edition. If I were reviewing on that alone, this would be 5 stars and then some. But there's more to an adventure than that.

The AP's hook is quite good, but almost immediately discarded in favor of saving the city. This can be helped a good session 0, but still feels artificial.

Even looking at the new plot, many elements feel shoehorned in. People point to volumes 4 and 5 for this, but there are sections in 2 that exist only to kill time as the plot advances and an entire dungeon in 3 that is cool but can seem forced if the players don't kick in the door right away. Any of these alone would be fine, but each makes the next more obvious.

That being said, there's a lot of cool stuff going on here, it just takes at least a star's worth of work to stitch it together.


3.5 vs. Pathfinder comparison!

5/5

I´m gonna list the differences between the original AP#7s chapters and it´s adaption into the hardcover edition:

Inside front cover:
The "Korvosan Hierarchy" overview is not reprinted.
Part 1:
The illustration on page 6 is exchanged for a cartoony new one on page 12 of the HC.
Page 10 of AP#7 has a map where the 8 locations in Korvosa that are important for book 1 are marked and named. This map is reprinted on page 400 of the HC but that one shows ALL important locations of the campaign at once, marked with letters and numbers.
"Lamm´s Lambs" stats are upgraded to young human on page 18 of the HC.
"Yargin Balko" now has a full body illustration instead of an upper body one. "Hookshanks Gruller" gets a full body illustration. "Giggles" gets a fbi. "Gaedren Lamm" gets a fbi.
Part 2:
King Eodred Arabasti gets a head illu. "Imps and Dragons" gets an illustration. "Meet the mob" gets a "Amin Jalento" head illu and his battle stats.
Part 3:
The illustration of "Sabina Merrin" on page 25 is not reprinted (she gets a new one on page 455).
Part 4:
"Cressida Croft" gets a head illu (and fbi on page 443). The Queens gets a new veiled head illu (the old one is more mysterious). The "renegade guards" stats in "All the Worlds Meat" get new stats. "Verik Vancasterkin" is upgraded from fighter 3 to fighter 4.
Part 5:
The "Ambassadors Secret" gets a new head illu. The fbi of "Vencarlo Orisini" from page 34 is not reprinted. The fbi of "Devargo Barvasi" on page 37 is replaced with a new one that is very much less impressive. He is upgraded from rogue 4 to rogue 5. "Majenko" is changed from pseudodragon to house drake. The illustration on page 41 is replaced with a new one (page 57). Both are equally creepy.
Part 6:
The "Trinia Sabor" fbi from page 43 is not reprinted (she gets a new look on page 460, but the old one is flashier). She is upgraded from bard 4 to bard 5. "The Shingle Chase" gets a better illustration. Curiously it features the old flashier Trinia Sabor outfit instead of the new.
Part 7:
The Owlbear skeleton gets gorgeous art on page 59 of the HC. The cool illustration on page 52 is replaced by a cool new one on HC page 61.
Cabbagehead´s head illu is replaced by a fbi. The "Gaekhen" head illu is not reprinted. "Vreeg" gets a much better new fbi.
Concluding the adventure:
The famous "green dress Illeosa Arabasti" illustration from page 56 (on which the first miniature is based) is NOT reprinted!
The Blackjack illustration from page 57 is replaced by a much better one on HC page 67.
Appendixes:
The 4 page Harrow article is updated to a 14 page one!
The 8 page "people of the road" article about varisians is not reprinted.
The 6 page Pathfinder´s journal is not reprinted.
Bestiary:
The illustration of the "Dream Spider", the only creature that hasn´t been adapted to a Bestiary yet, is not reprinted from page 82 but it´s stats are.
Inside back cover:
The "Korvosas enemies" overview is not reprinted.

While the new edition HC is better overall and everything needed for playing the campaign is included, updated and streamlined, quite a few cool things are left out.
I´m glad i got the original AP #7 too.


Even better than the original

5/5

Read my full review at Of Dice and Pen.

It was perhaps inevitable that Curse of the Crimson Throne would one day also receive a similar treatment to Rise of the Runelords. There’s no special anniversary to celebrate this year, but does there really need to be? Much like its Runelords predecessor, the new hardcover compilation of Crimson Throne updates the adventure path to Pathfinder rules and also expands on the story where beneficial and streamlines in other areas. It also takes advantage of the most recent rules supplements, making use of newer monsters, classes, and feats where appropriate.

At nearly 500 pages in length, it is actually a substantially larger tome than the hardcover Runelords (a good 50 pages or so longer), and its extra length is certainly put to good use. Indeed, it manages to make one of the best adventure paths even better.


The Best Just Got Bester!

5/5

Ahoy hoy everyone!

Welcome to the officially official first review of Captain Yesterday's not so official reviews of everything and life... or is that too cumbersome... how about an acronym... The O.O.F.R.O.C.Y.N.S.O.R.O.E.A.L... that will have to do for now.

Now that I've milked how many words on that, let me say without a doubt this is one beautiful book, and hefty too! With upwards of 480 pages you really get your money's worth.

This might take awhile so I'll most likely come back and edit and update, so stay tuned!

The campaign traits - this is one of my favorite parts of the book, while there are only six traits, each one has two different options, they do an excellent job at both getting your party to really hate Gaedren Lamm, they also do an exceptional job at giving the player's a glimpse of Korvosa. So five stars!

Alright, gotta go for now! But I'll be back soon!


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This native is just hoping for relief before the end of 2016.

Lantern Lodge

taks wrote:
The natives are getting restless.

Taks, you think I'm restless? then come have gander at the potential group I have to explain a minimum month delay if they want to play this version CotC I'm gonna be lucky not to eat my own dice bag at the next meet up.


Pathfinder Companion, Pawns Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Hehe. I'm in a good spot about half way through MM and GS each. CoCT is a year out most likely. I envy you not!


Will there be an interactive maps product released for this like there was for Runelords? Or can one pretty well use the maps that are already in the adventure path PDF? (I don't own the Runelords PDF)

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Please keep that release date, as that's my birthday.


Chris Ballard wrote:
Please keep that release date, as that's my birthday.

Your birthday is too anime!


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Sarcasm Dragon wrote:
Chris Ballard wrote:
Please keep that release date, as that's my birthday.
Your birthday is too anime!

You use that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Dark Archive

I have the originals, and I am keen to get the Hardcover, I already have the Rune lords, and would be looking to replace the 2nd Darkness also.


Bruno,

I wouldn't hold out my breath for 2017. 2019 maybe. But not next year.

Dark Archive

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Second Darkness won't be collected before 2022.

None of the single issues sold out, in fact all are still available in triple digits from Paizo for $5.

Legacy of Fire is much more likely.

Sovereign Court

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Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber

Hey, I just gifted someone an entire set. I'm doing my part. ^_^

Dark Archive

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Kalindlara wrote:
Hey, I just gifted someone an entire set. I'm doing my part. ^_^

Second Darkness for $30?

I paid about €100 a few month ago.

I'm very curious for the next store blog in november to see how many issues have sold. ;-)


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I'd sell you mine for a chance to get Curse of the Crimson Throne.

Course I'd hate myself later because I'm a completist.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber
Thomas Seitz wrote:
I'd sell you mine for a chance to get Curse of the Crimson Throne.

Unfortunately, that has no effect on Paizo's warehoused stock, and thus no effect on a possible Second Darkness hardcover. ^_^

Silver Crusade

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I've just started reading over this, and I'm legit mad that I never was able to play in this, this hard cover seems like it's gonna be hype as hell. So much of what I'm reading could use updated, and it'll be really cool to see what gets changed aside from the obvious.


Kal,

It wasn't for that, I meant the fact I'd sell my entire collection of Second Darkness to get back ALL of the AP for Curse (in non-hardback form)

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Companion Subscriber

Will this have a new player's guide or is it just the old one?


Pathfinder Companion, Pawns Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Don't quote me, but it seems there was a post upthread that said "no, it was rules generic enough that there would be no reason for a new one."

Silver Crusade

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Companion, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
taks wrote:
Don't quote me, but it seems there was a post upthread that said "no, it was rules generic enough that there would be no reason for a new one."

close:

JJ's word on a new Player's Guide:
Unlikely, since I was able to fit all that information into the book itself. I suppose it's possible to release the character traits as a mini-pdf or something... but at this point there's no plans that I know of to do a new Player's Guide for it.

Dark Archive

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Umm ._.; I was planning to pre order the Curse of the Crimson Throne hardcover, but it seems like it will be cheaper for me to buy hardcover over here from local gamestore and pdf separately :'D Delivery from USA to here just costs so ridiculously much...

Silver Crusade

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CorvusMask wrote:
Umm ._.; I was planning to pre order the Curse of the Crimson Throne hardcover, but it seems like it will be cheaper for me to buy hardcover over here from local gamestore and pdf separately :'D Delivery from USA to here just costs so ridiculously much...

It's fine. Direct sales give Paizo more profit, but local sales keep the business present where you buy it. Especially important for non-US/Canada :)


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Gorbacz,

It's also helpful in US for some of us with LGS that aren't huge.

Dark Archive

Anyway, yeah, new player's guide would be nice. Not just for traits and Korvosa info, player's guides are nice in that they give tips for players what to expect and how classes could fit the campaign and stuff


Corvus,

I'm pretty sure you, as DM/GM can figure it out. I mean Non-evil helps.

Probably.

In any case: BLOOD PIG FTW!!

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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From the department of expectation management: There will not be a new player's guide for Curse of the Crimson Throne.


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Understood Mister Jacobs. But there will still be blood pig and knivies right?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Understood Mister Jacobs. But there will still be blood pig and knivies right?

Of course.

I didn't really cut anything from the adventure, with the exception of the threat of war between the Shoanti and Korvosa, which ended up being a red herring, a distraction, and logistically nonsensical (since the Cinderlands and Korvosa are not neighbors).


*has no idea what DC Comics has to do with knivies or blood pig*

Thank you for that Mister Jacobs! :)

Community Manager

Removed some non-product-related discussion.


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Thank you Liz! :)

I can't wait to see more knivies, blood pig and of course Blood veil.

WHICH! reminds me, Mister Jacobs!

Will Blood Veil be an unchained disease in this?


I have some questions:

first of all i want to say that i loved this AP, i consider it the best of all and the beautiful one in every single regard.

1 will be there new expanded content?
2 there will be ommited content like in RotRL?
3 will we get Pawns for this?
4 when do we will have pawns for carrion crown?

Thanks in advance


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Juda,

I think I can answer this based on what's already posted:

1. Yes
2. No idea what you thought was ommitted but I'm sure it was edited.
3. Probably not.
4. No idea.

Paizo Employee Customer Service Representative

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Curse of the Crimson Throne Pawns

Silver Crusade

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Thank you Liz! :)

I can't wait to see more knivies, blood pig and of course Blood veil.

WHICH! reminds me, Mister Jacobs!

Will Blood Veil be an unchained disease in this?

Huh, that's actually something I'd really like to see. Unchained diseases were pretty interesting, and I feel like they'd fit the timetable for the AP better than the old rulings. Maybe a small sidebar for running it unchained instead.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
Diego Valdez wrote:
Curse of the Crimson Throne Pawns

Was just about to post that too...


Damn! I missed that.

Thank you Deigo and Tri.

Grand Lodge

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Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
N. Jolly wrote:
Maybe a small sidebar for running it unchained instead.

Unfortunately, the only thing unchained in this book is the kyton eidolon option, I think.


Tri,

Maybe but we never did ask much about the Blood Veil other than how it doesn't affect a small subset of Korvosa's population.

Scarab Sages

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I remember a while back you said you changed Laori out of her chainmail hook bodysuit, what sort of armor does she wear now?


She probably wears human skins now...


Soooo glad to see this coming out. I love the Grey Maidens and snatch up every mini of them I can find (gonna have to paint the Reaper ones now). Really looking forward to running this. The Runelords hardback was part of what convinced me to try out the Pathfinder RPG. I bought RotR right along with the core rules, RotR pawns, and bestiary 1. Gotta say, the price is high but I'll definitely get it.


I really want to run this, the issue is finding players. I've been gushing about how much I love Ileosa to most of my regular players, so they know way too much about her to really be a good group for this campaign XD


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Troodos,

Just tell them you lied. :p ;) Plus they still don't know about Scarwall. THAT alone should scare them.

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