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so A Dhamphir, fetchling or vampire chaokineticist could not only heal themselves with their own powers, they could also activate their emptyness effect to be better at avoiding rogue backstabs.
What Could a rogue be more afraid of than not only having their sneak attack whiff and then suddenly being on the receiving end of a massive negative energy counter attack which fries their hit points faster that they can say 'i'm going to die now!'
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Somebody asked about the Id Rager. Heads up, it's pretty awesome. Bloodrager archetype, but replace the bloodline with a phantom. Anything the phantom can do, you can do while raging. (Except being incorporeal. Sorry guys.) You're a psychic caster now (don't worry, you can still cast while raging). Your bonus feats get replaced with a great selection. Well, I don't know if it was great or not, but it included Extra Rage, so it can't be bad.
Nice bit of Psychology here with the flavor of the archetype. you lose the bloodline, but that's because you are actually tapping into your own psychic potential to bring your id(the more primal and aggressive aspect of the mind) into reality to aid in breaking your enemies heads.
Aside from the id, there is also the ego(the more balanced and analytical mind) and superego(the more creative, imaginative, and idealistic mind). These need to work together, but are prone to pulling in opposing directions(aside from the ego, which is constantly getting pulled to try and keep any potential harm to a minimum).
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That's the fun part- it's a will save to misidentify the spell. So a good spellcraft roll is actually more convincing.** spoiler omitted **How exactly would Fool's Teleport ever work? The moment a PC identifies it with a Spellcrafts check, they are no longer fooled.
Most people would normally wonder how they managed to teleport away, the wizard who passed the spellcraft check might still misidentify the spell, and all the while, the caster is getting further and further away from the people who might actually find them.
"There is a feat that basically lets you or other people become Pinhead."
What do you mean?
Cranial Implantation - You drive Nails or Needles into your or another creature's head to do a few little minor things. Great for Pain Tasters, who incidentally enough appeared in the very first Occult oriented book.
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Well, technically they re-appeared in Occult Mysteries (they were first seen in the Second Darkness AP).
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Id Rager: Yo dawg I heard you liked rage, so we put anger in your rage so your rage is fueled by rage, so you can rage in a rage.
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I was thinking that as well. Traits are one of my favorite parts of the game.
I was looking forward to getting some that cemented the occult flavor, both for the new classes and existing concepts - a trait for Palatine Eye-associated characters, for example.
Mark, I can't seem to find a wood/wood composite blast. What is a focused phytokineticist to do???
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Good eye, I was wondering who would spot that first. They intentionally don't have one; these two new elements are small due to space constraints and are thus better served mixing and matching for that reason (you can run into situations where you run out of selectable options if you don't diversify). It wasn't worth cutting other abilities to add it, as then it would have doubled down (both encouraging wood/wood/X more while also giving even fewer choices for a character who did so). If they ever appear in a longer format where they have enough options to go wood/wood/X or void/void/X, I would be sure to include a wood/wood composite as well (void has two blasts and so it required another composite). Wood/wood blast would likely be a damage increased version of the simple that uses the same infusions; if someone wanted to run with singleton of a new element in my game, I would use that composite and work with them to make some extra wood wild talents (perhaps from my list of other ones that wouldn't fit).
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What would be the cost of combining the Gravity blast (or Telekinetic blast) with Aetheric Boost and the boost composite from void?
Also how would the damage be calculated?
Gravity or telekinetic with both of those is an option at 15th, since they each work on composites. It would cost 3 burn and do 8d8+16. If you really wanted to run wild, though, you could put both of them on something that is already a composite (at 15th) like void blast (if you were void/aether/void), which would do 16d8+32. It costs 4 burn so is a significant commitment (even composite specialization, supercharged gather, and internal buffer would need to all come together to negate its cost, and that last one is a pretty limited resource), but it is the most damaging composite blast currently possible.
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Gravity or telekinetic with both of those is an option at 15th, since they each work on composites. It would cost 3 burn and do 8d8+16. If you really wanted to run wild, though, you could put both of them on something that is already a composite (at 15th) like void blast (if you were void/aether/void), which would do 16d8+32. It costs 4 burn so is a significant commitment (even composite specialization, supercharged gather, and internal buffer would need to all come together to negate its cost, and that last one is a pretty limited resource), but it is the most damaging composite blast currently possible.What would be the cost of combining the Gravity blast (or Telekinetic blast) with Aetheric Boost and the boost composite from void?
Also how would the damage be calculated?
Thanks Mark :-)
Don't forget Metakinesis for Empower to bring on some more stopping power.
Are Toxic Infusion and Greater Toxic Infusion really supposed to BOTH be level 4?
The impale form infusion states that "Infused earth and metal blasts always deal piercing damage"--what damage does a wood-based impale attack deal?
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Hmm.
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Spiritualist bosses spirits around, Medium is bossed around by spirits?
Which is to say, most ghost hosts are gross, but they toast those who boast to diagnose ghosts.
Are Toxic Infusion and Greater Toxic Infusion really supposed to BOTH be level 4?
Nope, for once the chart is correct on that one (which means it costs the appropriate burn for its true level, 4). Taenia noticed that one first on another thread.
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Hmm.
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Spiritualist bosses spirits around, Medium is bossed around by spirits?
Which is to say, most ghost hosts are gross, but they toast those who boast to diagnose ghosts.
Rhyming and punditry aside, you do have a point
It's possible that a spiritualist is more of a calming presence to a ghost, and more likely to deal with the problem. After all, the spiritualist is effectivly immune to possession by hostile spirits and more built around keeping them under control. Also it's very hard to fake a genuine spiritualist.
A medium, on the other hand, could be a fraud who is trying to exploit money from the people, or a easy to access vessel for hostile spirits to manipulate and use to wreck havoc on the world of men. A medium also contacts local spirits for power, which in ustalav is more than often a bad thing(being a often neutral evil dominated country with already to many bad thing to be dealing with more).
Well, mediums are possessed by legends rather than dead people so obviously the people of Ustalav are simply ignorant of the realities of medium-ness.
Well, mediums are possessed by legends rather than dead people so obviously the people of Ustalav are simply ignorant of the realities of medium-ness.
Well actually, when you read the Golarion flavor section for the medium class, that isn't ENTIRELY true ....
So about this serpent fire monk I keep hearing about...Trade in a bunch of bonus feats and abilities to be less bad at opening/maintaining chakras. At 8th, opening one lets you use it for a round for free. At 16th, you get two rounds for each one you open.
mmmhm
mhmhmhmhmhmhhhjust tell me the unchained monk can take it
Well actually, when you read the Golarion flavor section for the medium class, that isn't ENTIRELY true ....
Well that's annoying. Hope the RPG line ignores that.
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Well, mediums are possessed by legends rather than dead people so obviously the people of Ustalav are simply ignorant of the realities of medium-ness.
Ehh... I don't think so. Mediums can actually self-possess from three different sources;
Spirits = "Astral echos of powerful souls"... of dead people
Haunts = Psychic/spiritual residue... of dead people
Dead friends = Actual dead people
I'd say there is a definite 'dead people' theme going on here.
Ehh... I don't think so. Mediums can actually self-possess from three different sources;
Spirits = "Astral echos of powerful souls"... of dead people
Haunts = Psychic/spiritual residue... of dead people
Dead friends = Actual dead peopleI'd say there is a definite 'dead people' theme going on here.
Adding the "of dead people" to spirits isn't very accurate.They not only don't have to be dead people, they don't even had to have existed in the first place. They are beings made from thought.
The other two are very very very very minor abilities of the class.
So about this serpent fire monk I keep hearing about...Trade in a bunch of bonus feats and abilities to be less bad at opening/maintaining chakras. At 8th, opening one lets you use it for a round for free. At 16th, you get two rounds for each one you open.mmmhm
mhmhmhmhmhmhhhjust tell me the unchained monk can take it
Yep! At this point, I would assume that unless told otherwise.
Oh! I know why there's a difference to the commoner between Mediums and Spiritualists. Mediums perform an hour-long seance every day, and that is suspicious as heck.
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What I would have loved to have seen in the book..
PRC like the Mystic Theurge that allows one to combine Arcane with Psychic.
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I have been wanting to recreate Arbutus, from Disney's Aladdin, for over 20 years now. Paizo has finally made that possible for me. *cries*
Arbutus, Prince of Flowers - 18th-level ghoran phytokineticist
What I would have loved to have seen in the book..
PRC like the Mystic Theurge that allows one to combine Arcane with Psychic.
While they didn't have that, being able to pick a different Sorc/Wizard spell every day as a Psychic does go a long way towards it! (Plus, you don't have to worry about spell failure.)
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Hmm.
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Spiritualist bosses spirits around, Medium is bossed around by spirits?
Which is to say, most ghost hosts are gross, but they toast those who boast to diagnose ghosts.
From a commoner's point of view, a medium SAYS they are calling on forces to gain power, and LOOK like they are possessed. being under someone else's control is fairly well known outside Occult powers, and it's usually a bad thing. A commoner doesn't care if the medium is calling on a legend, spirit, or ancient Garundi archmage, the medium sounds closest to saying they get charmed by inhuman powers, and that sounds bad.
The spiritualist summons and controls things you can see. Summoning and controlling things you can see is fairly well known outside Occult powers, and if it's a human doing it it's often a good thing. A commoner doesn't care if a spiritualist is calling an outsider, an enslaved undead, or a magic construct that looks human. The spiritualist looks and sounds like a controller of monsters, and that's useful.
Commoners don't get into nuance, which is WHY they treat mediums and spiritualists differently. To commoners, the fact they are both occult classes with psychic spells is the nuance. What they look and sound like is what matters - get controlled by inhuman powers, or control inhuman powers. When your town history includes vampires charming guards, guards turning into wolves, and sleepless detectives driving off both, who is in charge in the mortal-to-supernatural relationship is crucial info.
Both of which are talking only about people who they have identified somehow. The book also discusses how easy it is for occult classes to seem to be something else. A medium who avoids looking possessed and tries to pass as a sorcerer has fewer problems.
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From a commoner's point of view, a medium SAYS they are calling on forces to gain power, and LOOK like they are possessed. being under someone else's control is fairly well known outside Occult powers, and it's usually a bad thing. A commoner doesn't care if the medium is calling on a legend, spirit, or ancient Garundi archmage, the medium sounds closest to saying they get charmed by inhuman powers, and that sounds bad.
The spiritualist summons and controls things you can see. Summoning and controlling things you can see is fairly well known outside Occult powers, and if it's a human doing it it's often a good thing. A commoner doesn't care if a spiritualist is calling an outsider, an enslaved undead, or a magic construct that looks human. The spiritualist looks and sounds like a controller of monsters, and that's useful.
Commoners don't get into nuance, which is WHY they treat mediums and spiritualists differently. To commoners, the fact they are both occult classes with psychic spells is the nuance. What they look and sound like is what matters - get controlled by inhuman powers, or control inhuman powers. When your town history includes vampires charming guards, guards turning into wolves, and sleepless detectives driving off both, who is in charge in the mortal-to-supernatural relationship is crucial info.
Both of which are talking only about people who they have identified somehow. The book also discusses how easy it is for occult classes to seem to be something else. A medium who avoids looking possessed and tries to pass as a sorcerer has fewer problems.
Also mediums also contend with the charlatans that are false mediums, which can make their operations in superstitious and skeptical areas similar in terms of difficulty...except one gets cynical looks and threats of being thrown in jail as a fraud, and the other risks being chased away by an angry mob. While this is purely thematic and built on flavour, it highlight some important attitudes when it comes to certain groups of people and classes.
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Adding the "of dead people" to spirits isn't very accurate.They not only don't have to be dead people, they don't even had to have existed in the first place. They are beings made from thought.
"Astral echoes of powerful souls" certainly sounds like they "had to have existed in the first place".
That said, the only specific examples we have so far are Savith (definitely dead) and Nex (status unknown). However, Nex is described as something of an exception in that he deliberately created his own 'Spirit'. So, while they apparently can be 'echoes of powerful still living souls', that does not appear to be the norm... and pure thought constructs without any progenitor soul doesn't seem supported by any text that I have seen.
In any case, even if Spirits had nothing to do with 'dead people', the fact that the other 'deliberate self possession by dead people' powers of the Medium are "minor" does not change the fact that they exist... so the Ustalavs have it right.
Maybe I missed it, but could someone give me the occult rituals mentioned in this book? I was curious to see if there was a way to summon Earthfall again...
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Maybe I missed it, but could someone give me the occult rituals mentioned in this book? I was curious to see if there was a way to summon Earthfall again...
Nothing nearly on that level, no.
I recommend checking out Pathfinder Adventure Path #18: Descent into Midnight, though. It has just what you're looking for. ^_^
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I'm aware of that, but I was hoping maybe it might show up here, Kalindlara.
In any case, could you list the rituals anyway?
